I found out about this like yesterday... There is supposed to be some sort of "system" which has Sony's blessing and it's supposed to be perfectly legal too. But I won't buy it. There was this kid, "nikezu", yesterday whom added me to his friends list and asked for a "sharing" my psn games for him. And I asked what's it about, never heard of it. He told that I was supposed to give my email I use to login and password for PSN. Then the bells rung in my head extremely loudly and told him to f**k off. But this kid started claiming that it's perfectly legal thing and that it has SONY'S APROVAL! I was like lol, it's not, read the PSN license agreement. And then he blocked me... It was weird enought that it was worth looking into with google...

Somebody should state it from Sony. Since there are punch of 10 year kids claiming it's legal when it is not. They refer in to this http://www.wired.com/gaming/gamingreviews/news/2006/10/71982

When it clearly contradicts with the PSN User Agreement and other licenses.

http://www.us.playstation.com/support/useragreements

And what's the thing with the web?

People have made numerous threads like these:

http://forums.n4g.com/m_178005/mpage_1/printable.htm

http://www.psxextremeforums.com/playstation-3/8137-official-psn-gamesharing-thread-split-trade-share-your-psn-games-v2-0-a.html

Where they do this "sharing". It's just plain simple illegal and it's supposed to be common sense that you will not give away your passwords for any service. What's wrong with the web these days?

If this post is annoying or something then mods are free to remove it but my thing here is to talk about this "sharing", not to "share" anything to anyone.

A song brings us joy. A song is the highest culture that Lilims have created. Don't you think so?

Good article.

i'm under the impression it's ok to game share. for instance, i've loaded my psn account onto my brothers and girlfriends fathers ps3, and have downloaded the ganmes i've already paid for. and as long and you leave your account on their ps3 then can still play the games. it also means i can still claim trophioes on my account when not at home! 

I certainly wouldnt let anyone else have my password though.

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AnXa wrote:

I found out about this like yesterday... There is supposed to be some sort of "system" which has Sony's blessing and it's supposed to be perfectly legal too. But I won't buy it. There was this kid, "nikezu", yesterday whom added me to his friends list and asked for a "sharing" my psn games for him. And I asked what's it about, never heard of it. He told that I was supposed to give my email I use to login and password for PSN. Then the bells rung in my head extremely loudly and told him to f**k off. But this kid started claiming that it's perfectly legal thing and that it has SONY'S APROVAL! I was like lol, it's not, read the PSN license agreement. And then he blocked me... It was weird enought that it was worth looking into with google...

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That's exactly what they should have done. Sony specifically say "DO NOT give out your email you use to sign in or your password". If you had done this. This kid would now hijack your account and download stuff to his PS3, which you'd be paying for. He'd also probably  have got you banned on here, by posting a lot of spam.

I'm not sure if it's legal or not, but I've only done it with people I actually know in real life and I trust.

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Diddymow wrote:
Some downloads say something along the lines of "This may be downloaded on upto 5 different PS3's".

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I am gettig confuzed. While the PS3 and PSN terms of use clearly say that this kind of activity is prophitted there is article like this on PS3 customer support:

I purchased some downloadable game content on the PLAYSTATION®Network. Part of the product description says the content can be used or downloaded on up to five (5) activated PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system's. What does that mean?

Answer:

This means that the content that you purchased may be used by other users on an activated PLAYSTATION 3 after you downloaded the content onto your PLAYSTATION 3.   Some content may require the user to have a PLAYSTATION Network account, and other content may require you to have additional game content that may be sold separately.  For example, you may need to purchase a full game in order to use the character that you purchased on the PLAYSTATION Network for the game.

Please review the use restrictions associated with the content you purchased.  The content may be played on up to 5 activated PLAYSTATION 3's at any one time.

I picked that up from: http://ps3mods.blogspot.com/2007/05/playstation-store-game-sharing.html

This is getting now really really really weird... 

I am starting to think that somebody has f***ed up at Sony. If this is legal why there are no way to ensure on what activated devices are and how they are activated and what for. If "sharing" would be legal there should be way to ensure that nobody will play "a prank" to other. Why this "feature"is not advertised anywhere. There are huge risks also in this thing.

Edirol: Some how I am losing my confidence towards Sony America. Espesially when I found this:

http://www.us.playstation.com/support/termsofuse

3. Even though our friendly neighborhood lawyers try to check everything we do here with a fine-toothed comb, we're not saying we're flawless. Sorry to have to say it, but the only promise we can make to you is that this site is totally cool and loads of fun! Anything you read, hear, look at, or use, you're doing so at your own risk. We assume no liability or responsibility for errors or omissions on this site.

6. This may sound familiar, but it's important, so we're going to rephrase it. Anything on this site--pictures, drawings, text, games, anything--is either our property or the property of someone who gave us the permission to use it. IT'S NOT PUBLIC DOMAIN, AND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT YOURS. Don't use any of it for anything other than personal entertainment, unless we say you can (and we probably won't). If you do, you're probably violating at least one law, and since we told you here, we won't feel bad about coming after you.

7. On the same note, there are plenty of trademarks, logos, and service marks on this site that belong to us or someone who said it's cool for us to use them. So hands off! (That's from our legal guys.) They also say if you fool around with any of these trademarks, they or the owner of the mark or some other prosecutor who they inform will come after you.

So, that's not everything but I kind of found it amusing that within real legal licenses was this practial joke one. I wouldn't take that seriously, no way in hell.

Edirol 2:

Some germanese guys on this forum have writen that this site's admins got this nailed with following words:

"Game sharing is in violation of the ToS for the PSN. As such, discussion of game sharing is not permitted here. Please keep this in mind for the future. Thank you."

and...

"Please note that discussion of game sharing is not permitted on these forums. Thank you."

This practicly means that starting "game sharing" thread here where the point is to share games around is not permitted. As it is illegal. I guess we can talk about the subject when ever or not it is illegal or not.

A song brings us joy. A song is the highest culture that Lilims have created. Don't you think so?

so, am i able to download my psn games onto my brothers PS3?

this doesnt seem any clearer!

OMFG. anxa stop whining EVERYWHERE AND GET A *****ING LIFE ! GOD!

Gamesharing is friggin OK! on your own risk! SO stop bitching!

Yeah its legal, but can become messy, as if you, your brother, your girlf and her dad all buy a game then you will need your brother, your girlf and her dads account on your machine to play those games.

What I did with some old school friends is create a "whip account"

We all put a fiver in whip. We all have "whip account" on our machine. We all share the content. Peasy.

SamL - don't be a banana. If you have nothing usefull to say, say nothing.

It's completely legal to share games.

However, who you share it to is up to you. All the usual rules apply; don't give your password and username to anyone you don't know. etc

Well, this is what I make of it:

• You are allowed to redownload purchased titles onto PS3 systems of friends/family you know/trust
• You're allowed to download these games onto the multiple systems assuming you play/will play on the particular system.

• It's not okay to share your account details with someone else, but that's pretty much common sense amirite?

Tbh it's all a little grey there, you can download it onto whatever system, only you can't make a profit from it (i.e. getting your mate to pay you a fiver just to download Tekken 5: DR onto his console for example). I mean if anything it's the same way iTunes works, you can redownload purchases onto any pc you like up to a certain amount of times, just you're not permitted to get the files and share them i.e. BitTorrent.

I dunno -.- but either way that nikezu kid had some *****ing nerve to ask you for your account details lol, if I were in your shoes I would've said a bit more than just to eff off

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What makes you guys think it's legal? I'd be interested to know about that. we just got moderator to express it's illegal.

I've got this thing like that if you own two Playstation 3s then you could "activate" them both from account settings to play games you have purhaced from PSN. It's not completely legal to share games you have bought from PSN Store with just anyone, including your friends. Just like it's not completely legal to buy records from iTunes and then burn and rip them just so that you could share them away.

PSP has functionality for this, it's legal on PSP somehow. But not on PS3.

A song brings us joy. A song is the highest culture that Lilims have created. Don't you think so?

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AnXa wrote:

I found out about this like yesterday... There is supposed to be some sort of "system" which has Sony's blessing and it's supposed to be perfectly legal too. But I won't buy it. There was this kid, "nikezu", yesterday whom added me to his friends list and asked for a "sharing" my psn games for him. And I asked what's it about, never heard of it. He told that I was supposed to give my email I use to login and password for PSN. Then the bells rung in my head extremely loudly and told him to f**k off. But this kid started claiming that it's perfectly legal thing and that it has SONY'S APROVAL! I was like lol, it's not, read the PSN license agreement. And then he blocked me... It was weird enought that it was worth looking into with google...

 

Somebody should state it from Sony. Since there are punch of 10 year kids claiming it's legal when it is not. They refer in to this http://www.wired.com/gaming/gamingreviews/news/2006/10/71982

 

When it clearly contradicts with the PSN User Agreement and other licenses.

http://www.us.playstation.com/support/useragreements

 

And what's the thing with the web?

People have made numerous threads like these:

http://forums.n4g.com/m_178005/mpage_1/printable.htm

http://www.psxextremeforums.com/playstation-3/8137-official-psn-gamesharing-thread-split-trade-share-your-psn-games-v2-0-a.html

 

Where they do this "sharing". It's just plain simple illegal and it's supposed to be common sense that you will not give away your passwords for any service. What's wrong with the web these days?

 

If this post is annoying or something then mods are free to remove it but my thing here is to talk about this "sharing", not to "share" anything to anyone.

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That 10 year old kid... may not have been 10 years old!

If (like me) you have registered a card with PlaystationStore, then those card details would be accessible on his PS3 and then purchased games downloaded to his PS3.

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RedDragan wrote:

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AnXa wrote:

I found out about this like yesterday... There is supposed to be some sort of "system" which has Sony's blessing and it's supposed to be perfectly legal too. But I won't buy it. There was this kid, "nikezu", yesterday whom added me to his friends list and asked for a "sharing" my psn games for him. And I asked what's it about, never heard of it. He told that I was supposed to give my email I use to login and password for PSN. Then the bells rung in my head extremely loudly and told him to f**k off. But this kid started claiming that it's perfectly legal thing and that it has SONY'S APROVAL! I was like lol, it's not, read the PSN license agreement. And then he blocked me... It was weird enought that it was worth looking into with google...

 

Somebody should state it from Sony. Since there are punch of 10 year kids claiming it's legal when it is not. They refer in to this http://www.wired.com/gaming/gamingreviews/news/2006/10/71982

 

When it clearly contradicts with the PSN User Agreement and other licenses.

http://www.us.playstation.com/support/useragreements

 

And what's the thing with the web?

People have made numerous threads like these:

http://forums.n4g.com/m_178005/mpage_1/printable.htm

http://www.psxextremeforums.com/playstation-3/8137-official-psn-gamesharing-thread-split-trade-share-your-psn-games-v2-0-a.html

 

Where they do this "sharing". It's just plain simple illegal and it's supposed to be common sense that you will not give away your passwords for any service. What's wrong with the web these days?

 

If this post is annoying or something then mods are free to remove it but my thing here is to talk about this "sharing", not to "share" anything to anyone.

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That 10 year old kid... may not have been 10 years old!

 

If (like me) you have registered a card with PlaystationStore, then those card details would be accessible on his PS3 and then purchased games downloaded to his PS3.

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My thoughts exactly when I read the first post I mean yeah the topic was about whether or not it's right to share DLC with other ps3 users, but if anything the guy was most likely trying to scam your debit/credit card by making entire library purchases through the seized account.

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I've read an official statement declaring the fact it is not illegal.

And it says in details of the actual games whether you can share them or not

And if it was illegal you wouldnt be able to share with only 5 people.

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H0P5 wrote:

I've read an official statement declaring the fact it is not illegal.

 

And it says in details of the actual games whether you can share them or not

 

And if it was illegal you wouldnt be able to share with only 5 people.

 

 

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wether it is illegal or not to share psn logon details is irrelevant in this regard, the more pressing matter is that strangers are asking for the PSN logon credentials which could be scams and that is illegal.

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AnXa wrote:

What makes you guys think it's legal? I'd be interested to know about that. we just got moderator to express it's illegal.

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I guess sony tell us that we can share the game up to 5 PS3s for no reason then. Really, why would they condone illegal activity? Think about it.

And it's meant for you YOU to login on someone elses ps3 and download it.. not give THEM your details.