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Has the Multiplayer contributed to Assassin's Creed downfall?

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Some people on here will know i love the multiplayer but for me the AC series has gone downhill game by game.

After the high point of Assassin's Creed 2 we had Brotherhood which wasnt a bad game, i actually really enjoyed it but it wasnt as good as AC2 and i was pretty disappointed with Revelations, i got quite bored towards the end, this may have been because it was so similar to Brotherhood

 

I feel the multiplayer has a part to play in each installment not being as good as the last because by the end of it i was enjoying the multiplayer in Brotherhood & Revelations alot more than the campaign which AC is meant to be all about

 

Do you think Ubisoft have been giving the single player less attention because of the multiplayer component?

although i really enjoy the multiplayer i would rather they scrapped it and gave me an engaging story personally

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I think you could be right. I think now they have multiplayer sorted (2 games in hand) they will come back really strong with a decent single player in AC3. I just can't wait! 

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I think you could be right. I think now they have multiplayer sorted (2 games in hand) they will come back really strong with a decent single player in AC3. I just can't wait! 


 

Im encouraged by what ive seen of AC3 so far campaign and multiplayer but now they've included co-op aswell thats another thing that they will concentrate on

 

For me going by Brotherhood and Revelations they havent mastered doing two things at once yet and now they're doing three things, between Revelations release in November 2011 and AC3 in October 2012 is 11 months long enough to put together an amazing single player campaign with a multiplayer and co-op component aswell?

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Ah well it has been in production much longer because they have been making it for 3 years now I think... (at least) They were making it while they released the others. 

 

http://www.nowgamer.com/features/1326914/assassins_creed_3_why_starting_from_scratch_has_been_worth_...

 

Hence why Brotherhood and Rev were spin offs. They had to make this one. I could have waited but it's good to have played them all :D

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Assassin's Creed has turned into Call Of Duty in that they are releasing a new game every year now, they should have done what Naughty Dog have done with the Uncharted series and release a new game every 2 years

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I think the multiplayer was a great addition to the AC series! It was fun and isn't just a copy of other multiplayer games.

It may have meant less time / effort put into the 'spin offs' single player, but that also may have been down to the yearly time constraints.?

 

As MissSouthampton said AC3 has supposedly been I production in tandem with ACB n ACR since AC2 finished.

 

And as for the yearly COD reference. I don't mean to sound like a "AC Fanboy" but....

The desmond sequences have all been leading up to this year. So unless they had put a lot more desmond bits in, then they might have been struggling to fit in all these extra desmond sequences and all of Ezios story (which i loved), into the one game in between, as opposed to the two we had..

 

With the production size & time AC3s had. I'm hoping we get a great multiplayer (with out any recycled maps), and we get two BIG single player experiences. One for desmonds story to be mostly wrapped up, and one for this new Conner dude (Altair only really had one AC game)

 

Then maybe leave Assassins alone for a few years or the next-gen? Coming back with something very fresh and new in the AC universe.

 

 

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I absolutely hated those Desmond Sequences to the point were i just gave up with them after completing 3 of them

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Sorry, when I said desmond sequences. I didnt mean solely the actual "sequence" bits, but all the desmond story parts. My bad..
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Sorry, when I said desmond sequences. I didnt mean solely the actual "sequence" bits, but all the desmond story parts. My bad..

 

Ive never really got invested in the whole Demond side of the story i was always more interested in Altier and Ezio 

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I think Desmond contributes somewhat because he is the end / start of it all i.e. his memories, ancestors. I guess that's why they all look the same lol. I wonder where Connor fits in. He is an ancestor of Desmond too isn't he?
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Im confused? is Connor the assassin? if he is then they've gone downhill in the names, first Altier then Ezio now Connor lol doesnt quite fit in

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Yes he is. He is half native American and half something else. Not sure what yet. 

 

Hmm it's Connor or Ratonhnhaké:ton <--- yeh. Connor is better lol. While Googling the spelling tho I found Connor's Wiki...

 

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Connor_Kenway

 


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Yes he is. He is half native American and half something else. Not sure what yet. 

 

Hmm it's Connor or Ratonhnhaké:ton <--- yeh. Connor is better lol. While Googling the spelling tho I found Connor's Wiki...

 

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Connor_Kenway

 



 

Nice biography, he has a cool fleshed out backstory 

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I didn't actually read all of it lol. I will one day...

 

How about you tell me how he fits in to the story? (I will read it, it's more fun this way) :D

 

 

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I didn't actually read all of it lol. I will one day...

 

How about you tell me how he fits in to the story? (I will read it, it's more fun this way) :D

 

 


 

From what i read its something like this, so something bad happened when he was younger which made him adopt the name Connor and he joined the 'Assassin Order' then the American Revolution came and he sided with the leaders of the revolution (George Washington and Benjamin Franklin), during the war he became the leader of a warship which sailed the Caribbean Sea (i think thats what that demo was about on the ship)

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I think AC2 showed a big improvement on the first one, and the two sequels to it didn't add as much new stuff.  However, it's obvious that a lot of that is to do with development time.  I think Ubisoft even mentioned it themselves.

AC3 looks immense.  It seems they have nailed it for improvements and changes, targeting the exact areas that were getting stale.  In the latest video one of the developers was saying that although they aimed to have everything work in a new way, there were one or two things they retained because it made sense, but they reworked them.

 

AC Multiplayer probably hasn't detracted from the story.

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Yes they said they were spin offs. Which I guess helped them fund AC3 lol. Plus develop obvs. Really looking forward to it :D
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I don't think the multiplayer hasn't been the downfall of the last two games... I think it is more that the last two games have been GTAIV LATD/BOGT style expansions... and the fans who were blown away by AC2 want a sequel to do the same again... Hopefully we will get it with AC3..

 

As others have said... Brotherhood was alright, but it could have been DLC... the focus was more on side missions, expanding the Assassins Guild and experimenting into the online arena.... Rev however I think bombed more than it got things right... the strategy game and Desmond sections were terrible..

 

It's a good question for all single player genres though... Uncharted, Dead Space, Bioshock, GTAIV/RDR... I certainly don't think any of them needed multiplayer, and aside from Uncharted 2, I've never played any more than about half an hour of any of the online modes anyway...

 

I do think Uncharted 3 wasn't quite as good as Uncharted 2... obviously the MP has nothing to do with that, as it was in both... I think they just lost something with the script writing and game direction.. and focused too much on the setpieces, which ironically were brilliant and pushed the game to a level which exceeded even Uncharted 2...

 

Bioshock 2 I don't think multiplayer was to blame... I just don't think the sequel was as fresh or original in ideas. Dead Space I think it was more it lost some impact by going the actiony shooter route, just like F.E.A.R 2 did, sacrificing some of the chill... GTAIV, well I go against the grain of popular opinion in that I enjoyed it more overall than San Andreas...

 

It's not a game from an offline only franchise, but I think Resistance 2 suffered because of the online focus... it was like by putting all the effort into the co-op stuff they somehow wrote and developed a crap single player, which retconned more than it expanded the first game, and tried too hard to be Halo..

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Its funny because in regards to Dead Space & Bioshock i actually prefered the sequels to the originals so i dont feel bringing in MP made Dead Space 2 or Bioshock 2 any less great, i loved Brotherhood but Revelations feels like a chore to play 

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