Battlefield

[MrFl1bbl3]

If this isn't classed as cheating, then its certainly an exploit, hence why Dice are patching it so you can't fly on MAV's.

Either way this seems like semantics to me, although I'll never understand the mentality of alot of online players, I can't see how anyone could consider this 'fair play'.  

You are doing something you are not meant to be doing to gain an unfair advantage over people playing 'properly'. I'm sure its great fun for those using this exploit to sit in relative safety sniping at people below but like most cheats, glitches and exploits that fun is at the expense of someone else.

[WESTIE_UK]

If there is a loop hole big enough for a sheep to jump through, there will be many sheep queing to jump through it!

Its human/sunday lunchs nature!

[LSD-39]

So even the dictionary definition is wrong if it doesn't agree with your opinion ? Maybe you should take that up with the academics who crafted it.

I'm not doing this reaps. I'm not spending the next four pages arguing those 'subtle differences' with you. You seem to like that, I don't and its not how I intend to spend my morning, I just can't be bothered.

You refuse to accept the possibility that you might be wrong, it would take an eternity to convince you. / Leaves thread.

[YorkshirePud82]

Ive been up there on a mav to see what the fuss was about, jumped off pretty quickly as it seemed utterly pointless and didnt help the team whatsoever.

[Cringles88]

Yeah, it's an exploit. Nothing that a few Mortar rounds can't sort out. As there seems to be an invisbal blocking you from shooting them sometimes. 

It happens on all maps now. Golf of Oman is one of the worst for it. Or are the parachuting in to get to those high buildings?

[fi8767]

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I_reaps_I wrote:
I argued that as MAV jockeys are still within the confines of the map ( ten second kill boxes are the boundary) and that you can still shoot the MAV jockeys, the only advantage they gain is a moment of suprise. The same as if I parachute onto an otherwise inaccessible rooftop. The only important thing now is whether this was a design decision, which it clearly was not and is thus being rectified. Just as the USAS frag rounds are, and the front grip and silencer kill machines are. These things are not cheating to me, that is my opinion. They are not within the spirit of fair play, but are not cheating.

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Just because its not a major greivance doesn't make it any less of a cheat.

[I_reaps_I]

I never said the dictionary definition was wrong, I used wording that specifically avoided the direct use of FairPlay, rather using the spirit of fair play. Construct straw men all you like, it does not alter my words. I will make specific effort not to reply to you in any form again as clearly you are taking an opinion that differs from yours as being some kind of attack.

[YorkshirePud82]

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Cringles88 wrote:

Yeah, it's an exploit. Nothing that a few Mortar rounds can't sort out. As there seems to be an invisbal blocking you from shooting them sometimes. 

It happens on all maps now. Golf of Oman is one of the worst for it. Or are the parachuting in to get to those high buildings?

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sometimes they parachute, sometimes the MAV elevate, worst maps tend to be Sharqi, Oman and Karkand from my observences. and i wont lie, ive done it myself and while amusing it only helps your score and not the team.

but it is funny mortoring the snipers. blowing up the sides of the buildings so they fall to the deaths or my personal faveourite, catching them in the act and destroying their mav while they are 50ft up in the air

and mav kills. mav kills on exploit snipers seem fair to me, fight an exploit with an exploit lol.....

[I_reaps_I]

I can't quote on the phone, but in response fi8767, I would say that a cheat would need to be unfair. All the mav allows is somebody to gain a short advantage through suprise. You can achieve the same by climbing up a distant hill somewhere. I can still kill them easily enough.


It offers no real advantage, it's lacking in the spirit of fair play, is annoying and is evidently a bug... But cheating is a little harsh. Considering the results. It's innefectiveness as a tactical asset is precisely why it's not a major issue.

For the record, I don't like MAV surfers and I am glad it's getting patched.

[MrFl1bbl3]

By your own definition Reaps it is cheating, so you're contradicting yourself tbh.

Being on top of a flyover (Tehran) you're not meant to be on so you can lean over the side and snipe people with a massive advantage is quite clearly unfair.

If it didn't offer these people an unfair advantage then they wouldn't be doing it - plain and simple

This is clearly not the same as climbing up a far off hill.

MAV kills are legitimate however as there are specific tags for it, they are patching the MAV so any roadkills with it destroy the MAV as well as the soldier and that is in response to community requests and not because it is an exploit. There is a difference.........