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Ninja-Welshman
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Message 11 of 25 (236 Views)

Re: UMP overpowered?

I think it could be. I definitely improve once I unlock that gun. Use it with thermal scope and it is a beast!!
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Tom_York
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Message 12 of 25 (205 Views)

Re: UMP overpowered?

It's alright saying it's more powerful in the real word but I'm afraid this is a game that lives or dies by it's balance and in a head to head online game the winner in a firefight should be the one with either quicker reactions or the ability to aim more accurately while shooting. Using your logic we should just allow people to win because of their ability to choose a more powerful weapon, you're wrong and I'm right.
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Mr_Inconspicous
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Message 13 of 25 (194 Views)

Re: UMP overpowered?


Tom_York wrote:
It's alright saying it's more powerful in the real word but I'm afraid this is a game that lives or dies by it's balance and in a head to head online game the winner in a firefight should be the one with either quicker reactions or the ability to aim more accurately while shooting. Using your logic we should just allow people to win because of their ability to choose a more powerful weapon, you're wrong and I'm right.


:No-no: You're confusing opinion with fact :Shame:

 

The key word though is underlined. And by your logic all the guns would be equal.

 

Using my logic the UMP with its higher calibre round that has a lot more mass does more damage. You then balance that with recoil, accuracy, effective range rate of fire.

 

I would have the UMP.45 as high damage, high recoil, low effective range, medium rate of fire and say a PP2000 as lower damage, lower recoil, higher effective range, much higher rate of fire.

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chrisa3211
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Message 14 of 25 (186 Views)

Re: UMP overpowered?


Mr_Inconspicous wrote:

Tom_York wrote:
It's alright saying it's more powerful in the real word but I'm afraid this is a game that lives or dies by it's balance and in a head to head online game the winner in a firefight should be the one with either quicker reactions or the ability to aim more accurately while shooting. Using your logic we should just allow people to win because of their ability to choose a more powerful weapon, you're wrong and I'm right.


:No-no: You're confusing opinion with fact :Shame:

 

The key word though is underlined. And by your logic all the guns would be equal.

 

Using my logic the UMP with its higher calibre round that has a lot more mass does more damage. You then balance that with recoil, accuracy, effective range rate of fire.

 

I would have the UMP.45 as high damage, high recoil, low effective range, medium rate of fire and say a PP2000 as lower damage, lower recoil, higher effective range, much higher rate of fire.


 

Depends how you're each defining powerful - obviously there is a technical reason why the UMP should have greater stopping power, and as Mr_Inconspicuous says, it should have limitations in other areas.

 

Similarly, as Tom_York says, if there were one gun which completely negated skill then there would be a problem - think along the lines of the UMP from MW2. As it is I've neither seen the stats for BF3's UMP nor used it myself so I don't know whether this is the case.

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Message 15 of 25 (181 Views)

Re: UMP overpowered?

I'd just use my wang and bone you both to death, cos thats all you deserve.


A gun could shoot dandelion seeds, but if the game devs want to make it the most powerful gun in a game then it is :smileyindifferent:

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Re: UMP overpowered?


Jacko_the_lad wrote:
Yes.

It was overpowered in BC2 and clearly it's carried over to BF3.
Ovepowered in BC2? What a lot of rubbish. This brings the question do you even play games before making various snide comments?
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Re: UMP overpowered?

I think its overpowered in the BF3 beta. Everytime I use the gun, I end up with around 2.5 K/D ratio, normally I get about 1.4. Thats saying something.
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Re: UMP overpowered?


Bilbo_bobbins wrote:
I think its overpowered in the BF3 beta. Everytime I use the gun, I end up with around 2.5 K/D ratio, normally I get about 1.4. Thats saying something.
Yeah it is better than the one you get from the start for sure. I killed someone and took his UMP and it was beasty.
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Registered: ‎15-08-2009
Message 19 of 25 (134 Views)

Re: UMP overpowered?

Évery game has a gun thats over powered & I guess in this game it's the UMP-45.

@ BC2 it was M60 LMG & i was BEAST at it! :smileyhappy: AHHH good times..
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Re: UMP overpowered?


Killzone_Kid wrote:

Jacko_the_lad wrote:
Yes.

It was overpowered in BC2 and clearly it's carried over to BF3.
Ovepowered in BC2? What a lot of rubbish. This brings the question do you even play games before making various snide comments?

 

Um, yes it was overpowered in BC2. Along with every other SMG in the game.

 

Have you not played BC2?

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