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is it just me are dice trying to turn battlefield 3 into a cod game...

its seems with every patch,new guns they are catering to the cod players...

almost every match i play now its full of players using the same guns (that are supposedly the best) or players exploiting the game mechanics by constantly jumping all over the place to confuse the hit detection.another is clipping inside rocks/walls/outside map.

 

or its a bunch of scrubs running around like rambo with a sniper rifle one shotting everyone...

 dont get me started with the laser pointer,it seems like whatever gun you stick it on it turns it into a hipfire killing machine (including sniper rifles)...

 

i enjoy playing battlefield 3 due to it taking a lot more skill to play/master guns,now im not the best player but more and more im getting outgunned (even at range) by players who are just running around hipfiring snipers etc.. 

its got so bad the last few days im starting to regret buying premium as i feel its just going to get worse..

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I think its also that the fanbase has changed. BF3 is alot more popular than BC2 was. Also with MW3 being a bit of a failure, more of the COD players have moved over to this game. Its just what EA wanted.

 

Since one of the last patches, Ive seen that the aim assist is really noticable. Another way to make the newbies keep playing. The learning curve in this game is now more on par with COD imo.

 

Currently, my biggest complaint about the game is the custom servers. Ive been kicked from far too many just lately by people who cant stand losing. I wouldnt mind if it didnt take so long to find a good balanced match. DICE need to put up some official big ticket servers!

 

But yeah I agree the scrub level of this game is very high at the minute! Hopefully things will pick up a bit when Armoured Kill is released. 

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It just comes down to money, like any business. If a developer can create a game that closely resembles CoD then people who play CoD may look at that game, buy it and play it and because CoD has such a big market (God knows why) it's a chance to make some big money but only if they can please the fans with what the developer has to offer. BF3 offers it own experience but it is also an FPS set in the modern day so there isn't much a developer can change to be different from CoD but to get the money they need to please everyone, especially the CoD fans but I still favour BF3 by miles. 

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 BF3 offers it own experience but it is also an FPS set in the modern day so there isn't much a developer can change to be different from CoD but to get the money they need to please everyone, especially the CoD fans but I still favour BF3 by miles. 



To be fair, Battlefield has being doing the Modern based warfare for much longer than CoD :D

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I think COD's finished,  its been done to death.  It needs a new engine and a complete re-think from the ground up,  then maybe the name will persuade people to try the next version.  The next game better not look like an MW3 map pack or it won't even leave the starting line - let alone compete. 

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I_reaps_I wrote:

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 BF3 offers it own experience but it is also an FPS set in the modern day so there isn't much a developer can change to be different from CoD but to get the money they need to please everyone, especially the CoD fans but I still favour BF3 by miles. 



To be fair, Battlefield has being doing the Modern based warfare for much longer than CoD :D



Yeah but it never took off like it did with CoD4. With the popularity with CoD4/CoD series, everyone wants to try and replicate that experience. Besides all of the Battlefields were for PC so not everyone would play them, as soon as the PS3 and Xbox 360 came on the scene with CoD4 then everything changed and that is excluding Battlefield 2: Modern combat for the PS2 because online play was not as big, obviously lol. Then Bad Company came after and so on and so fourth....

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I think with things like Conquest DOM and TDM yes but also no, the hard core of BF fans will play Conquest and Rush as they always have

new guns? well i think the ACW-R is a beast but is it better than the others? probably not i dunno

as for lazor pointers thats an interesting subject. i only use them in close quarters battles, or games that may include that. and its only so i can use hipfire if im desperate, i dont have the quickest reactions in the world so i see it that it levels the playing field. i dont get them to blind people just to improve my chances in a fire fight.

you wouldnt find me using a laser pointer on any gun say in something like Caspien or Oman. Mehtro or Bazaar possbily

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or its a bunch of scrubs running around like rambo with a sniper rifle one shotting everyone...

 dont get me started with the laser pointer,it seems like whatever gun you stick it on it turns it into a hipfire killing machine (including sniper rifles)...

Have you ever actually tried that? It takes some quick reaction and precise aiming to one shot somebody with a bolt action up close, so easy to get your face melted by sobody with an F2000 (usually with a foregrip and silencer)

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"Have you ever actually tried that? It takes some quick reaction and precise aiming to one shot somebody with a bolt action up close, so easy to get your face melted by sobody with an F2000 (usually with a foregrip and silencer"

 

 

i tend to not usually hipfire with a sniper,if someone is close enough to hipfire then ill whip out my pistol.

when the game first released i would have agreed with you that getting consistent kills by hipfiring(with anything except a pdw) was pretty tough and usually came down to a little skill and a lot of luck,but after the last couple of patches dice seem to have upped the hipfire accuracy,even more so with the laser pointers attached.

they raised it so much that running around (with nearly any weapon) hipfiring your way through squads of players is now starting to become the norm,which is why i think battlefield 3 is slowly turning into cod,what with its one hit kill/hipfire snipers and hipfiring being the most effective way of killing...

 

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With the lack of popularity of MW3 a lot of people (CODheads) have decided that BF3 is their new game of choice and EA are loving it, but they should really have left Battlefield for the battlefield fanbase and concentrated on making medal of honor the CODclone

 

after all Medal Of Honor was once the daddy of fast paced FPS, until COD started doing what they did better and they faded away.

 

MOH needs to take back the arcade shooter crown and hopefully this will stop EA forcing DICE to fudge up BF3 until it ends up as COD with big maps and vehicles :(

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With the lack of popularity of MW3 a lot of people (CODheads) have decided that BF3 is their new game of choice and EA are loving it, but they should really have left Battlefield for the battlefield fanbase and concentrated on making medal of honor the CODclone

 

after all Medal Of Honor was once the daddy of fast paced FPS, until COD started doing what they did better and they faded away.

 

MOH needs to take back the arcade shooter crown and hopefully this will stop EA forcing DICE to fudge up BF3 until it ends up as COD with big maps and vehicles :(


I have big hopes for MoH Warfighter:)

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Mike939 wrote:

SilentShadow777 wrote:

With the lack of popularity of MW3 a lot of people (CODheads) have decided that BF3 is their new game of choice and EA are loving it, but they should really have left Battlefield for the battlefield fanbase and concentrated on making medal of honor the CODclone

 

after all Medal Of Honor was once the daddy of fast paced FPS, until COD started doing what they did better and they faded away.

 

MOH needs to take back the arcade shooter crown and hopefully this will stop EA forcing DICE to fudge up BF3 until it ends up as COD with big maps and vehicles :(


I have big hopes for MoH Warfighter:)


 

Well said as regards the 2 posts above. 

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I don't think there is a big chance of battlefield turning into a fish.

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i agree totally with all these *****ing cod nerds and everything

 

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Battlefield is nothing like COD and never will be. It will never have floaty, feeling, skateboard movement. It will never get rid of bullet drop and various bullet speeds and distances. It will never appeal to squeaky, annoying, 10 year old American kids or get rid of the focus on teamwork. It will never.. oh I cant be bothered if you cant see the differences between the two games.

Even with close quarters it still isn't like COD, it still has its large maps, vehicles etc. I hate COD, I love BF for the large maps and vehicles. But I'm enjoying CQ as a nice change, and it had to have close quarters weapons to fit in with the gameplay.



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ytevo79 wrote:
Battlefield is nothing like COD and never will be. It will never have floaty, feeling, skateboard movement. It will never get rid of bullet drop and various bullet speeds and distances. It will never appeal to squeaky, annoying, 10 year old American kids or get rid of the focus on teamwork. It will never.. oh I cant be bothered if you cant see the differences between the two games.

Even with close quarters it still isn't like COD, it still has its large maps, vehicles etc. I hate COD, I love BF for the large maps and vehicles. But I'm enjoying CQ as a nice change, and it had to have close quarters weapons to fit in with the gameplay.




 

My thoughts exactly.. The CQ maps are nothing like COD maps in fact they are still probably bigger. The gameplay although different to the standard maps is also nothing like COD gameplay. The CQ map pack does exactly what it says on the tin and adds a nice change to the game if you fancy some fast and furious action. If this was a game of Domination on COD you'd have numerous spawn campers but can honestly say havent been spawn camped once on the CQ maps. They seem to have got this spot on

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i've been thinking the exact same things since i started playing again. i left the game alone for like 3-4 months and now im back it feels so different i dont know why. its still a fairly good game but imo i think its starting to go down hill a bit

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i still think battlefield 3 is the best shooter on ps3 at the minute,but i do feel dice are slowly trying to emulate cod,of course battlefield 3 has huge maps and controllable vehicle's which cod doesnt,its the updated character movement and the recent adjustments to aim assist and hipfire that i feel makes the game more and more like cod....

 

i remember when the game had alot more of a weighty feel in the way you moved and aimed your gun,but now you can run around like rambo and turn on a penny,all while hipfiring your way thru people...

(this is my personal opinion from when the game was released up to now)

 

thanks for your feedback/opinions folks. :)

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COD.....no but it more causal friendly and dumbed down (I doubt people get what i mean when i say that)

Alot of things in this game which make it easy and limit good players.

 

Same deal as COD....you can tell this if you look closely at the map design , TTK and radar. Also.....unlocks is another factor

 

Also the hit detection. is another example.....trust me mate you not seen how people exploit it yet. DICE has a dirty problem when it comes to that and it needs fixing. 

 

Problem is who do you make the game for ? it a hard balance

Tbh....all games need a higher learning curve along with no unlocks. That way you don't get people abusing the best setups.  

 

When i played the beta i knew what game this would be.....it was easy to see.

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COD.....no but it more causal friendly and dumbed down (I doubt people get what i mean when i say that)

Alot of things in this game which make it easy and limit good players.

 

Same deal as COD....you can tell this if you look closely at the map design , TTK and radar. Also.....unlocks is another factor

 

Also the hit detection. is another example.....trust me mate you not seen how people exploit it yet. DICE has a dirty problem when it comes to that and it needs fixing. 

 

Problem is who do you make the game for ? it a hard balance

Tbh....all games need a higher learning curve along with no unlocks. That way you don't get people abusing the best setups.  

 

When i played the beta i knew what game this would be.....it was easy to see.



i know what you mean by "dumbed down" thats what i was hinting at with the last couple of updates dice released.

 

as for the hit detection exploiters,are you referring to how bf3 uses client side hit detection? and how theres alot of idiots that purposefully tweak their routers to have a high ping to mess with the hit detection ?

or the less extreme (although still annoying) fools who join a server (usa playing on eu servers) knowing they will lag the server up,between that and the stupid lag compensation it makes them almost impossible to get a hitmarker on due to their high ping?

 

i would be happy if dice made the servers region specific,you shouldn't be able to jump on an american server if your from the uk and such,why would you want/need to? (your just gonna lag the place up)

 

its just the fools who purposefully wanna lag up the servers to their advantage so taking that option away would sort that out..

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COD.....no but it more causal friendly and dumbed down (I doubt people get what i mean when i say that)

Alot of things in this game which make it easy and limit good players.

 

Same deal as COD....you can tell this if you look closely at the map design , TTK and radar. Also.....unlocks is another factor

 

Also the hit detection. is another example.....trust me mate you not seen how people exploit it yet. DICE has a dirty problem when it comes to that and it needs fixing. 

 

Problem is who do you make the game for ? it a hard balance

Tbh....all games need a higher learning curve along with no unlocks. That way you don't get people abusing the best setups.  

 

When i played the beta i knew what game this would be.....it was easy to see.



i know what you mean by "dumbed down" thats what i was hinting at with the last couple of updates dice released.

 

as for the hit detection exploiters,are you referring to how bf3 uses client side hit detection? and how theres alot of idiots that purposefully tweak their routers to have a high ping to mess with the hit detection ?

or the less extreme (although still annoying) fools who join a server (usa playing on eu servers) knowing they will lag the server up,between that and the stupid lag compensation it makes them almost impossible to get a hitmarker on due to their high ping?

 

i would be happy if dice made the servers region specific,you shouldn't be able to jump on an american server if your from the uk and such,why would you want/need to? (your just gonna lag the place up)

 

its just the fools who purposefully wanna lag up the servers to their advantage so taking that option away would sort that out..


Spot on, or show he players ping like Warhawk use to

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