General Discussion: Sport

[[Ste2005]]

=/ I fear Scholes more in Uniteds line up, but then again we have very good full backs.

Did people ever consider Beckham a winger? I've always thought of him as an RM....

He was a bit of both.

I mean he could cross from anywhere but cant beat a player the way Giggs can.

Giggs is a winger, Beckham was a mix of RM and RW thats why he was so different.

And I remember years ago before Beckham left when we played Madrid it was Carlos who came out and said 'We fear Giggs the most'. Other clubs have said it, but that's one that stuck in my head.

[[DKs64]]

Which other clubs? Do you still think he's feared?

[MrMartay]

Which other clubs? Do you still think he's feared?

I don't think he's as feared as he was but he's still got the ability to turn a game round with a nice piece of skill.

The good thing for Giggs is that Ronaldo is where Giggs was 14 years ago.
The spotlight is now on Cristiano which leaves Ryan to focus on his game and not be the big star as he was.

[[DKs64]]

The good thing for Giggs is that Ronaldo is where Giggs was 14 years ago.


I don't remeber Giggs being such a ****

[Zedai]

I don't think he's as feared as he was but he's still got the ability to turn a game round with a nice piece of skill.

The good thing for Giggs is that Ronaldo is where Giggs was 14 years ago.
The spotlight is now on Cristiano which leaves Ryan to focus on his game and not be the big star as he was.

Ronaldo is a Great player, but i hate it when people say he is the best or ablolutely world class! Ronaldo NEVER EVER performs well against the Big4 in the premiership and he NEVR EVER plays good against the big and mighty in the champions league! In the Champions League he was nowhere to be seen against teams like AC MILAN! In the premiership he does all his stuff againt mediocre teams like Wigan, Fulham, Middlesborough etc But not against the TOP DEFENDERS in the TOP Clubs in Europe and in the Premiership! And NO, I am not a Man Utd hater or a Ronaldo Hater! I am a Manchester United supporter and have been since i was about 4 and have gone to every game of theirs i could go to!

Giggs is, was and will always be a United Legend and a true Genius on the footbal pitch! If he decided to play for our England National Team instead of Wales, then he would have been noticed alot more around the world. GUARANTEED! All the media hype. and the major tournaments he could have been in with England would have had people praising him as the Best player in Europe, however he chose to play for Wales and his name neve gets mentioned in the Europe to 10 or World Top 10!

Beckham is also another Brilliant Player and will always be!

Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OZF687l9a0 (you cant compare these two Great players but oh well)

[Zedai]

Hypocrite*



DK I agree Giggs was the better winger. Beckham was good at what he did and that was the 40/50 yards passes of hurt and free kicks of pain. But he wasn't a real winger.

He couldn't dribble the ball past several players like Giggs could. However when he first started Giggy was woeful at crossing. So that's why Beckham made such an impact.

But over recent years Giggs has been able to play better balls into the box.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OZF687l9a0 WATCH THAT, Breath taking stuff from them both!!


And this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4nypxues8MY I have never seen a better cross by someone else!

Also: http://youtube.com/watch?v=rEj-xcHQoQI I was there that night, i was behind that goal in the middle tier, Wembley erupted like never before, BUT our hearts were shattered about 15 mins later!

[[Ste2005]]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hrOyedpeZnk

Possible THE best FA cup goal to date. And one of the goals that everyone will remember Giggs for.

Beckham in Spain had it easy players just stood off him. Lets face it Beckham is never going to be able to run at a defense the same way Giggs can, so if you put Becks under pressure and don't give him the time to cross the ball he is useless.

Giggs has much better movement, and can run with the ball much better. The only thing Beckham has over Giggs is his crosses. And since leaving United the amount of goals from Free kicks hasn't been the same. So he doesn't even have that over Giggs now.

[[DKs64]]

Ronaldo is a Great player, but i hate it when people say he is the best or ablolutely world class! Ronaldo NEVER EVER performs well against the Big4 in the premiership and he NEVR EVER plays good against the big and mighty in the champions league! In the Champions League he was nowhere to be seen against teams like AC MILAN! In the premiership he does all his stuff againt mediocre teams like Wigan, Fulham, Middlesborough etc But not against the TOP DEFENDERS in the TOP Clubs in Europe and in the Premiership!

Trufax

[[DeclanTM]]

There seems to be a little myth going around that Ronaldo didn't perform in last seasons champions league. He was fantastic both legs against Roma, and in the first leg against Milan inspired our comeback. Yes he was poor in the 3-0 game, but so was the rest of our team, we were just outclassed on the day.

He's also put in several big performances against arsenal, and was the man of the match in the FA Cup final.

And besides, it is over a measure of 38 games in a season that you base a players performance, not the big games, otherwise the premiership team of the season last year would've been packed with arsenal players...

[Zedai]

There seems to be a little myth going around that Ronaldo didn't perform in last seasons champions league. He was fantastic both legs against Roma, and in the first leg against Milan inspired our comeback. Yes he was poor in the 3-0 game, but so was the rest of our team, we were just outclassed on the day.

He's also put in several big performances against arsenal, and was the man of the match in the FA Cup final.

And besides, it is over a measure of 38 games in a season that you base a players performance, not the big games, otherwise the premiership team of the season last year would've been packed with arsenal players...

Everyone was fantastic against Roma in the 2nd leg, however in the 1st leg i ont remember Ronaldo doing anything!

Over 38 in the premiership, 32 games are played against MEDIOCRE teams! Yes Ronaldo has played well in some of the games against the top teams in Europe, but wasn't it Giggs and Rooney that inspired our win against Milan in the first leg?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HnQLSA722bw&feature=related

And last week against Derby, when Ronaldo won the penalty, OH MY GOD, have you ever seen a more selfish player than Ronaldo, its 90 minutes, Tevez in on a hatrick having already scored two goals, you can see Tevez asking Ronaldo if he can take thge penalty but Ronaldo says NO! Yes I know Ronaldo is at the top of the list of Penalty takers, but anyone else would have done the decent thing and let Tevez get his Hatrick!