on 11-07-2012 02:16 PM
fenian wrote:
I was a football ultra supporter in Europe, and we would chant about everything to get a rise, was it racisim or a pure hatred of other teams that would make us say anything to annoy them? It didnt matter who you were, black white, asian, we would say the most vile things about you, your history, your culture while being very protective of our own asian, black, white fans or players.
It's the primitive tribal mentality that extends from sports teams to cliques to religious sects to nations to any other area where mankind can form opposing groups.
on 11-07-2012 02:33 PM
InfiniteStates wrote:It's the primitive tribal mentality that extends from sports teams to cliques to religious sects to nations to any other area where mankind can form opposing groups.
To gaming, explains why so many racist remarks in gaming. Foul business gaming probably more primitave and backward than religion and football. I have heard far worse in gaming than I ever did with my ultra football suporters, must attract a lot of primitive backward minds.

on 11-07-2012 03:49 PM
It just plays the odds - attract enough people and primitive backward minds are a given.
on 11-07-2012 06:48 PM
InfiniteStates wrote:It just plays the odds - attract enough people and primitive backward minds are a given.
Not really, like I stated, other sports dont have the issue. Soccer isnt the most popular sport in Ireland, its the 3rd most popular sport, yet its the only one with any significant problems to do with racisim or violence.
Maybe its the opposite, the backward minds are attracted to football and gaming. Gaming is the worst for racisim by miles so it would obviously have a draw to the most simple minded people.

on 11-07-2012 06:59 PM

on 12-07-2012 10:16 AM
fenian wrote:
InfiniteStates wrote:It just plays the odds - attract enough people and primitive backward minds are a given.
Not really, like I stated, other sports dont have the issue. Soccer isnt the most popular sport in Ireland, its the 3rd most popular sport, yet its the only one with any significant problems to do with racisim or violence.
That's true. Maybe I should have said "enough people of a certain class".
fenian wrote:
Maybe its the opposite, the backward minds are attracted to football and gaming. Gaming is the worst for racisim by miles so it would obviously have a draw to the most simple minded people.
Gaming has the additional unfortunate property of offering offenders the blessing of a shield of internet bravery. In football, if you're going to be racist, I guess you best be able to defend your ignorance with brawn and/or strength of numbers.
However gaming allows even the most socially awkward, inept physical weed adequate platform to illustrate their bigotry without fear of reprisal or consequence.
on 12-07-2012 11:54 AM
fenian wrote:
InfiniteStates wrote:It just plays the odds - attract enough people and primitive backward minds are a given.
Gaming is the worst for racisim by miles so it would obviously have a draw to the most simple minded people.
Don't forget the homophobia and sexism!

12-07-2012 03:06 PM - edited 12-07-2012 03:08 PM
The question isn't whether football as a whole is racist because it isn't. The question is whether some of the knuckle-dragging cretinous morons who are paid a fortune to kick a ball around, snort coke and bang hookers in their spare time are racist. The answer is overwhelmingly that they are.
Just in the same way that if a pikey wins the lottery they are still a pikey: a yobbo with no education paid to kick a ball around is still an uneducated moron with uninformed views regardless of what you give them.
I hope that draws a line under the matter.
on 12-07-2012 05:59 PM
DrTrouserPlank wrote:snort coke and bang hookers in their spare time are racist.
But, but... Some of my best friends are black!
Just joking. I don't have any ![]()

on 12-07-2012 06:15 PM
They have just given it this title to get people talking about the show and get high ratings. It will be some bloke going to Eastern Europe and filming their ultras during a game and then commenting on their hand gestures and chants. Although they are racist, doesn't for one minute mean all of football is racist. Stupid title imo.
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