General Discussion

[shankly1985]

No TV has native 100hz, there all 60hz in usa there sky/virgin broadcasts @60hz thats why they have 120HZ with motion feature witch on. Over here its only 50hz thats why its only 100hz with motion feature switch on.

You sure your TV you saying isn't a monitor? because they can do 100hz native. Your not seeing 100hz on pc because TV cant do it without its processing power. witch get disabled by most tvs once a pc is connected or game mode is switch on.

I have never heard of graphics cards having hz you have a link I can read about this? because I cant find anything. Sound more to me you have multi-buffer switched on GPU settings, still have problems set V-sync on witch will match your TV 60hz.

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ProjectVRD wrote:

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shankly1985 wrote:

Not on a single GPU you wont for most games, but puting two GTX560 ti or even AMD HD 6950 in xfire will get you 120FPS.

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ProjectVRD wrote:

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shankly1985 wrote:

You need to have a look at a 120hz monitor and sli GTX580 then, that will easy do 120 FPS. All TV have in put lag when there Motion feature is turned on that's a fact and cant be changed no matter the manufacture. Why you think every time games with a Game mode? When you use GM it by passes all TV processing features. 

Even if I did upload a video or you watch one, of someone showing 120FPS on youtube, you want see them anyway because youtube is limited to 30FPS.

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ProjectVRD wrote:

I have yet to see anything push out more than 75Hz... not including 3D at 60Hz x2. I see all these people showing off their games at high FPS as shown by FRAPS and yet there graphics cards are pumping out at 75Hz. Kinda makes me laugh. Also the Samsung is very good, I suggest a new PC if your input is lagging on any monitor/TV.

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As I have already said... I have only ever seen graphics cards output at 75Hz. I wouldn't be disappointed to be proven wrong there though because it would mean I could potentially consider buying a new graphics card. Until I see a card actually pumping out more than that 75Hz figure I will continue to believe that I must wait before upgrading my PC, but I do invite you to show me I am wrong because I have amazon gift codes that need spending at the moment it looks like a Freeview HD-PVR... I would like to change that to a new Graphics Card if I had the reason to do so.

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I don't care about the FPS rate the card(s) is rendering at, I care about the Hz figure being outputted to the HDTV/Monitor. My PC will easily play Skyrim at 120FPS loaded above ultra settings and some pretty serious mods attached, but my cards which is in Crossfire will still only output to the HDTV at a refresh rate of 75 times a second. Not being a native figure of the display it is better for me to go down to 60Hz.

FRAPS counting FPS is just a ***** measuring tool without actually seeing the results being put onto a screen for real. The only time I have seen above 75Hz is a 3D setting which for some reason was referred to as 60Hz x2 which I suppose is the same thing as 120Hz but they were just explaining that it was two images, with one for each eye piece of the glasses. Back in 2D mode, the same 75Hz was back as the top setting.

EDIT: I should add that that TV does 100Hz as a native option but such an option is not listed as native in the drivers on my PC.

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[V8_Vantage]

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ProjectVRD wrote:

I have yet to see anything push out more than 75Hz... not including 3D at 60Hz x2. I see all these people showing off their games at high FPS as shown by FRAPS and yet there graphics cards are pumping out at 75Hz. Kinda makes me laugh. Also the Samsung is very good, I suggest a new PC if your input is lagging on any monitor/TV.

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Older CRT monitors did 85Hz. 

And the refresh rates don't really impact upcon the framerate of games. Thats just how many times the monitor updates each second. So it can and usually does produce multiple frames within a second. With vsync off I get 300fps in the likes of HL2 only because the game engine caps off at 300 fps. 

[ProjectVRD]

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V8_Vantage wrote:

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ProjectVRD wrote:

I have yet to see anything push out more than 75Hz... not including 3D at 60Hz x2. I see all these people showing off their games at high FPS as shown by FRAPS and yet there graphics cards are pumping out at 75Hz. Kinda makes me laugh. Also the Samsung is very good, I suggest a new PC if your input is lagging on any monitor/TV.

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Older CRT monitors did 85Hz. 

And the refresh rates don't really impact upcon the framerate of games. Thats just how many times the monitor updates each second. So it can and usually does produce multiple frames within a second. With vsync off I get 300fps in the likes of HL2 only because the game engine caps off at 300 fps. 

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But if your monitor/TV is not refreshing 300 times a second then you are not seeing 300fps. You are loosing alot of frames that the card is rendering.

[shankly1985]

Thats's why you get screen tear with v-sync on the game will sync with your display 60hz=60fps Monitor 120hz=120fps and so on.

So if he had a display witch had 300hz real not fake like TVs he would see 300fps.

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ProjectVRD wrote:

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V8_Vantage wrote:

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ProjectVRD wrote:

I have yet to see anything push out more than 75Hz... not including 3D at 60Hz x2. I see all these people showing off their games at high FPS as shown by FRAPS and yet there graphics cards are pumping out at 75Hz. Kinda makes me laugh. Also the Samsung is very good, I suggest a new PC if your input is lagging on any monitor/TV.

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Older CRT monitors did 85Hz. 

And the refresh rates don't really impact upcon the framerate of games. Thats just how many times the monitor updates each second. So it can and usually does produce multiple frames within a second. With vsync off I get 300fps in the likes of HL2 only because the game engine caps off at 300 fps. 

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But if your monitor/TV is not refreshing 300 times a second then you are not seeing 300fps. You are loosing alot of frames that the card is rendering.

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[renegadefunk]

I've been using 23" Philips and BenQ monitors for PS3 gaming and I'm really impressed. When I went back to gaming on HDTV I felt like I couldn't see as much, even on a 50" LG Plasma! I'm not sure technically what they do better though.