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Solid_Snake12345 wrote:I just wish to say thanks. The light on my screen usually keeps me awake/prevents me from feeling tired and thus I end up being absolutely exhausted both when I fall asleep and when I wake up and this seems like it will help a lot.
@Fenian, Elfie and anyone else using the dyslexia test,
Also, I realise that you (fenian) did say roughly but it's just worth pointing out (and I'm not saying you are, I just wish to state it as a precautionary measure more than anything that it's probably best to avoid making any assumptions based upon online tests, be it for dyslexia or otherwise. If anything it is probably best if you only use them to see whether or not it may warrant further investigation. The only reason for this is that by making a judgement based upon the result of such things you may end up subconsciously (or consciously but that would be foolish) influencing any tests that you later do as you either try (or avoid) getting certain results and alter your answers based upon that. Likewise if any investigative tests are being carried out by a psychologist (although I'm not sure if a psychologist carries out tests for dyslexia or if you would be referred to somebody who specialises in it, I assume it's the latter) they will likely try to eliminate other potential conditions first and an IQ test may be taken to see if there was any disrepancy between IQ and achievement/performance in school. So to briefly summarise, I'd use such tests more as an actual indicator as to whether or not you should investigate it (if you've an interest in doing so) as opposed to making an assumption about whether or not you are dyslexic.
I do know this. I'm not stupid. I didn't exactly diagnose myself with the mental illness that I thought I had until I went to a professional who then agreed it was what I had.
I never self-diagnose. I'm so paranoid I get myself checked out for every small thing. I'm at the doctors like every week xD I don't even have to say my name when I go there, I just show my face and they're like "take a seat 
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Level 3
The test explains how accurate it is, if you score under 45 its impossible for you to be dyslexic, if you score between 45 - 60 there is a chance you are dyslexic, and if you score over 60 youre more than likely dyslexic but need to look into it more.
They wont do an iq test on you, there is no reason you can have a low iq and still be dyslexic, or a high iq but bad at maths, or have a high iq but get a low result on an iq test because of your dyslexia.
Adults should be able to read up on dyslexia and know if they have it or not. Its harder with children. A child hasnt encountered enough words, letters, experiences to put the bits together and notice "actually i do get words that look the same mixed up", so you have to watch them to see if they do it.
A psychologist with learning difficuty speciality will be able to diagnose you, or some special needs teachers, or even some normal teachers/doctors etc can do it.
anyway, I like this thing by the way, the light changing thing.
Level 3
Solid_Snake12345 wrote:
fenian wrote:The test explains how accurate it is, if you score under 45 its impossible for you to be dyslexic, if you score between 45 - 60 there is a chance you are dyslexic, and if you score over 60 youre more than likely dyslexic but need to look into it more.
They wont do an iq test on you, there is no reason you can have a low iq and still be dyslexic, or a high iq but bad at maths, or have a high iq but get a low result on an iq test because of your dyslexia.
Adults should be able to read up on dyslexia and know if they have it or not. Its harder with children. A child hasnt encountered enough words, letters, experiences to put the bits together and notice "actually i do get words that look the same mixed up", so you have to watch them to see if they do it.
A psychologist with learning difficuty speciality will be able to diagnose you, or some special needs teachers, or even some normal teachers/doctors etc can do it.
anyway, I like this thing by the way, the light changing thing.
The categories of results are on the basis of that specific study. As such it is not impossible. It is however highly unlikely. In addition to this this is not the only test that will be given. If so, it's a flawed examination. It even states:
It is important to remember that this test does not constitute an assessment of one’s difficulties. It is just an indication of some of the areas in which you or the person you are assessing may have difficulties. However this questionnaire may provide a better awareness of the nature of an individual’s difficulties and may indicate that further professional assessment would be helpful.
An IQ test may also be done for dyslexia. There are verbal and non-verbal IQ tests and in addition a high disparity between certain areas in an IQ test can be used to help try to identify dyslexia. The IQ test is not the only test done, it would be done in conjunction with a variety of other tests designed to eliminate and test for other learning disorders. or conditions. It's funny that you should mention a high IQ but bad at math however as such a thing would be indicative of dyscalulia due to the disreprancy between IQ and performance. That's the the main reason why an IQ test would be done in the first place, because it can be indicative of a learning disorder. Upon further research it seems that these:
- Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children-Third Edition (WISC-III)
- Kaufman Assessment Battery for Children (KABC)
- Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scale
- Woodcock-Johnson Psycho-Educational Battery
- Peabody Individual Achievement Tests-Revised (PIAT)
- Wechsler Individual Achievement Tests (WIAT)
- Kaufman Tests of Educational Achievement (KTEA)
- Bender Gestalt Test of Visual Motor Perception
- Beery Developmental Test of Visual-Motor Integration
- Motor-Free Visual Perception Test
- Visual Aural Digit Span Test (VADS)
- Test of Auditory Perception (TAPS)
- Test of Visual Perception (TVPS)
- Peabody Picture Vocabulary Test-Revised
- Expressive One-Word Picture Vocabulary Test
(source) are some of the more common tests that are used, an IQ test being the very first one listed (and yes, I'm aware that these are for diagnosing children, finding the tests used for children is much easier than it is for diagnosing adults but for many I presume there is an adult equivalent just as there is for the IQ test or age is not considered). Because it is not easily detectable dyslexia should undergo a rather significant amount of testing before a diagnosis is made to ensure an accurate diagnosis is made.
As for the third paragraph, I cannot agree. Unless you have been trained to do so you simply cannot ignore other potential causes and make an accurate judgement. It is certainly possible that you can say you may have it, but it would be uninformed to self-diagnose without an extremely expansive knowledge on learning disorders, testing methods and how the scores are standardised. The best comparison I can hope to give is those who try to self diagnose themselves with Asperger's due to being unsocial and on the basis of one or two tests online. Testing for Asperger's and High Functioning Autism is an extremely long process. During which a psychologist must be visited for slight observation followed by an Autism Specialist and then between five and seven tests are completed (an IQ test will additionally be done to eliminate Learning Disorders) during which observations will be made regarding behaviour, expression, questions and even what is worn. At the conclusion of the variety of tests there is about a two month period during which the results are analysed and then seperately analysed again to ensure the same conclusion is reached and a six to ten page report is then given regarding the findings. The person who self diagnosed underwent none of these things. They likely have no formal knowledge of the area and have not taken other factors into consideration. Their self diagnosis could be correct but it is meaningless without a proper investigation into it other than how it may allow them to try to improve certain difficulties they face.
Although I suspect that a proper dyslexia diagnosis is not quite as arduous I am almost certain that a very similar process is (or at the very least should be should the diagnosis have any meaning) done for dyslexia in order to eliminate other potential causes and confirm that it is what the person is suffering from/dealing with.
*I hope this doesn't come across as a heated reply. I certainly do not intend it as such.
EDIT: In fact, the very website you got that from even states:Full Diagnostic Assessments.
Dyslexia can be diagnosed by Chartered Psychologists specialising in adult dyslexia who may also be able to identify frequently co-occurring conditions such as Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia and Attention Deficit Disorder. These professionals are usually Educational or Occupational Psychologists. Occasionally Clinical Psychologists specialise in this area. Occupational Therapists often play an important part in assessment of Dyspraxia.
Assessments can also be carried out by an appropriately qualified tutor with post graduate training in dyslexia, usually with the AMBDA accreditation and a Practising Certificate. They are able to make assessments of verbal and non-verbal intelligence but use different tests from those only available to Psychologists.
Full assessments for adults would take around 3 hours and would be followed by a detailed written report with broad recommendations for support and accommodations. It would not often be possible to arrange for an assessment and receive the report in a short space of time.
It's too early for this 
Level 3
dannyjt wrote:
Solid_Snake12345 wrote:
fenian wrote:The test explains how accurate it is, if you score under 45 its impossible for you to be dyslexic, if you score between 45 - 60 there is a chance you are dyslexic, and if you score over 60 youre more than likely dyslexic but need to look into it more.
They wont do an iq test on you, there is no reason you can have a low iq and still be dyslexic, or a high iq but bad at maths, or have a high iq but get a low result on an iq test because of your dyslexia.
Adults should be able to read up on dyslexia and know if they have it or not. Its harder with children. A child hasnt encountered enough words, letters, experiences to put the bits together and notice "actually i do get words that look the same mixed up", so you have to watch them to see if they do it.
A psychologist with learning difficuty speciality will be able to diagnose you, or some special needs teachers, or even some normal teachers/doctors etc can do it.
anyway, I like this thing by the way, the light changing thing.
The categories of results are on the basis of that specific study. As such it is not impossible. It is however highly unlikely. In addition to this this is not the only test that will be given. If so, it's a flawed examination. It even states:
It is important to remember that this test does not constitute an assessment of one’s difficulties. It is just an indication of some of the areas in which you or the person you are assessing may have difficulties. However this questionnaire may provide a better awareness of the nature of an individual’s difficulties and may indicate that further professional assessment would be helpful.
An IQ test may also be done for dyslexia. There are verbal and non-verbal IQ tests and in addition a high disparity between certain areas in an IQ test can be used to help try to identify dyslexia. The IQ test is not the only test done, it would be done in conjunction with a variety of other tests designed to eliminate and test for other learning disorders. or conditions. It's funny that you should mention a high IQ but bad at math however as such a thing would be indicative of dyscalulia due to the disreprancy between IQ and performance. That's the the main reason why an IQ test would be done in the first place, because it can be indicative of a learning disorder. Upon further research it seems that these:
- Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children-Third Edition (WISC-III)
- Kaufman Assessment Battery for Children (KABC)
- Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scale
- Woodcock-Johnson Psycho-Educational Battery
- Peabody Individual Achievement Tests-Revised (PIAT)
- Wechsler Individual Achievement Tests (WIAT)
- Kaufman Tests of Educational Achievement (KTEA)
- Bender Gestalt Test of Visual Motor Perception
- Beery Developmental Test of Visual-Motor Integration
- Motor-Free Visual Perception Test
- Visual Aural Digit Span Test (VADS)
- Test of Auditory Perception (TAPS)
- Test of Visual Perception (TVPS)
- Peabody Picture Vocabulary Test-Revised
- Expressive One-Word Picture Vocabulary Test
(source) are some of the more common tests that are used, an IQ test being the very first one listed (and yes, I'm aware that these are for diagnosing children, finding the tests used for children is much easier than it is for diagnosing adults but for many I presume there is an adult equivalent just as there is for the IQ test or age is not considered). Because it is not easily detectable dyslexia should undergo a rather significant amount of testing before a diagnosis is made to ensure an accurate diagnosis is made.
As for the third paragraph, I cannot agree. Unless you have been trained to do so you simply cannot ignore other potential causes and make an accurate judgement. It is certainly possible that you can say you may have it, but it would be uninformed to self-diagnose without an extremely expansive knowledge on learning disorders, testing methods and how the scores are standardised. The best comparison I can hope to give is those who try to self diagnose themselves with Asperger's due to being unsocial and on the basis of one or two tests online. Testing for Asperger's and High Functioning Autism is an extremely long process. During which a psychologist must be visited for slight observation followed by an Autism Specialist and then between five and seven tests are completed (an IQ test will additionally be done to eliminate Learning Disorders) during which observations will be made regarding behaviour, expression, questions and even what is worn. At the conclusion of the variety of tests there is about a two month period during which the results are analysed and then seperately analysed again to ensure the same conclusion is reached and a six to ten page report is then given regarding the findings. The person who self diagnosed underwent none of these things. They likely have no formal knowledge of the area and have not taken other factors into consideration. Their self diagnosis could be correct but it is meaningless without a proper investigation into it other than how it may allow them to try to improve certain difficulties they face.
Although I suspect that a proper dyslexia diagnosis is not quite as arduous I am almost certain that a very similar process is (or at the very least should be should the diagnosis have any meaning) done for dyslexia in order to eliminate other potential causes and confirm that it is what the person is suffering from/dealing with.
*I hope this doesn't come across as a heated reply. I certainly do not intend it as such.
EDIT: In fact, the very website you got that from even states:Full Diagnostic Assessments.
Dyslexia can be diagnosed by Chartered Psychologists specialising in adult dyslexia who may also be able to identify frequently co-occurring conditions such as Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia and Attention Deficit Disorder. These professionals are usually Educational or Occupational Psychologists. Occasionally Clinical Psychologists specialise in this area. Occupational Therapists often play an important part in assessment of Dyspraxia.
Assessments can also be carried out by an appropriately qualified tutor with post graduate training in dyslexia, usually with the AMBDA accreditation and a Practising Certificate. They are able to make assessments of verbal and non-verbal intelligence but use different tests from those only available to Psychologists.
Full assessments for adults would take around 3 hours and would be followed by a detailed written report with broad recommendations for support and accommodations. It would not often be possible to arrange for an assessment and receive the report in a short space of time.
It's too early for this
I think that's the best time to start reading. Otherwise how else can you finish it before sundown?
Level 3
Solid_Snake12345 wrote:The categories of results are on the basis of that specific study. As such it is not impossible. It is however highly unlikely. In addition to this this is not the only test that will be given. If so, it's a flawed examination. It even states:
I said it gives a rought guide, and I said the test tells you how accurate it is and what to do next if you score high, didn't i?
The IQ test is not the only test done, it would be done in conjunction with a variety of ..
Thanks for letting me know, i slept through my Diagnosis. You said an IQ test would be done and compared to a students grade to see if they are falling behind despite being intelligent. This isnt the case at all, it has no relevance to that. It can be completley disregarded, because people with dyslexia and a high iq can start to cope with it early in life and their grades might be good.
As for the third paragraph, I cannot agree. Unless you have been trained to do so you simply cannot ignore other potential causes...
Which is why I said its a rough guide and you should take further action if you get over 60. You even said the test clearly says this, so does the site hosting it, so I never even implied it was a diagnostic test. I simply said if you get over 60 youre probably likely dyslxic and should get it checked.
Although I suspect that a proper dyslexia diagnosis is not quite as arduous I am almost certain that a very similar process is (or at the very least should be should the diagnosis have any meaning) done for dyslexia in order to eliminate other potential causes and confirm that it is what the person is suffering from/dealing with.
They watch you read and write, and ask you things outloud, there are ways to trick dyslexic people, tests with arrows pointing left and the word right above it etc, words and letters that look the same replaced in sentences, getting you to read it aloud, then chatting with you in an almost informal way to see if youre grasping the stuff thats happening and you're not aware that youre actually making the errors.Full Diagnostic Assessments.
Dyslexia can be diagnosed by Chartered Psychologists specialising in adult dyslexia who may also be able to identify frequently co-occurring conditions such as Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia and Attention Deficit Disorder. These professionals are usually Educational or Occupational Psychologists. Occasionally Clinical Psychologists specialise in this area. Occupational Therapists often play an important part in assessment of Dyspraxia.
Assessments can also be carried out by an appropriately qualified tutor with post graduate training in dyslexia, usually with the AMBDA accreditation and a Practising Certificate. They are able to make assessments of verbal and non-verbal intelligence but use different tests from those only available to Psychologists.
Full assessments for adults would take around 3 hours and would be followed by a detailed written report with broad recommendations for support and accommodations. It would not often be possible to arrange for an assessment and receive the report in a short space of time.
Yeah, you can also be tested on a computer with a computer test, you just need someone with the qualifications there in the room. The diagnosis test does not ask you "do you get confused with up and down" it will ask questions about up and down instead obviously. I mean does a doctor ask if you have a fever or does he check for it? come on, obviously the diagnostic test is different.
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