General Discussion

[BettySwollocks92]

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LarasAider wrote:

They all read from the same book, but I doubt Conservatives will do well cos' they've messed this country up with cutting back on everything; they also haven't given us anything in return.

Labour is just saying stuff that we wanna here, but they were the main problems for mucking this country up by over spending and lending to those who don't need the money.

Lib Dems don't do nothing; if they were elected, nothing would get done and your town would just stay the same.

In my area; the councillors have spent money on fencing and roads and they still haven't improved, the town is in worse decline and it's been like that ever since the fishing went away, which was the main source of income coming in; but they haven't done anything to boost the towns economy by bringing in new ventures and reputation has suffered greatly. 

So did I vote? No; as there's no one realistic enough to vote for.

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I voted Labour because of their different cuts policy. As you say the Tories are making a hash of it and are hitting the poorest off hardest. I believe the global crash to be a considerably greater reason for the troubles than Labour though, something the Tories and lib dems often completely ignore.

Time for Nick Clegg to pack his bags but like the Irish catholic primate and Jeremy Hunt, he'll no doubt cling to his post. People have no shame these days but I digress...

[Gawge]

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BettySwollocks92 wrote:

I voted Labour because of their different cuts policy. As you say the Tories are making a hash of it and are hitting the poorest off hardest. I believe the global crash to be a considerably greater reason for the troubles than Labour though, something the Tories and lib dems often completely ignore.

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I find it quite amusing, that for a lot of Tories and Lib Dems - instead of stuttering or pausing when they don't know what to say, they now always revert to "Look - we are working in the national interest to clear up the mess that Labour left us with". 

Personally - I couldn't bring myself to vote in any way that favours Ed Miliband - so I voted Lib Dem because I value them as a third party (even though I knew they had no chance in my ward anyway). But come the general election, I may have to revise that. 

[dannyjt]

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fski wrote:

By not voting you're only contributing to the problem. I'd like to know what alternative to democracy those that didn't vote would put forward and what exactly complacency will achieve.

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Good old Fascism please.

[PatC_PSN]

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fski wrote:

By not voting you're only contributing to the problem. I'd like to know what alternative to democracy those that didn't vote would put forward and what exactly complacency will achieve.

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I'm not sure it's really about alternatives to democracy or contributing to any problem, but far more about not seeing any point in voting in local elections. Of course a general election is quite different, but it seems to me that collecting rubbish (or some of it, as in my area), managing civic amenities, forming committies to discuss new zebra crossings etc. will happen pretty much the same way regardless of political leanings.

[dannyjt]

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PatC_PSN wrote:

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fski wrote:

By not voting you're only contributing to the problem. I'd like to know what alternative to democracy those that didn't vote would put forward and what exactly complacency will achieve.

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I'm not sure it's really about alternatives to democracy or contributing to any problem, but far more about not seeing any point in voting in local elections. Of course a general election is quite different, but it seems to me that collecting rubbish (or some of it, as in my area), managing civic amenities, forming committies to discuss new zebra crossings etc. will happen pretty much the same way regardless of political leanings.

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You should see the Fascists policy on recycling

[Gawge]

Anybody in a place with a referendum on whether to have an elected Mayor?

All places have voted against so far. I think that is good news personally - it just turns politics into a personality contest.

[foxhill]

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Gawge wrote:

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BettySwollocks92 wrote:

I voted Labour because of their different cuts policy. As you say the Tories are making a hash of it and are hitting the poorest off hardest. I believe the global crash to be a considerably greater reason for the troubles than Labour though, something the Tories and lib dems often completely ignore.

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I find it quite amusing, that for a lot of Tories and Lib Dems - instead of stuttering or pausing when they don't know what to say, they now always revert to "Look - we are working in the national interest to clear up the mess that Labour left us with". 

Personally - I couldn't bring myself to vote in any way that favours Ed Miliband - so I voted Lib Dem because I value them as a third party (even though I knew they had no chance in my ward anyway). But come the general election, I may have to revise that. 

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I'm not really politically acquainted but after the student fees fiasco Lib Dems...

I'm gonna have to pay extra £30000 if I get into my desired course.

[fski]

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PatC_PSN wrote:

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fski wrote:

By not voting you're only contributing to the problem. I'd like to know what alternative to democracy those that didn't vote would put forward and what exactly complacency will achieve.

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I'm not sure it's really about alternatives to democracy or contributing to any problem, but far more about not seeing any point in voting in local elections. Of course a general election is quite different, but it seems to me that collecting rubbish (or some of it, as in my area), managing civic amenities, forming committies to discuss new zebra crossings etc. will happen pretty much the same way regardless of political leanings.

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Is a general election really that different? The last time I checked voter turn out was ridiculously low in the last GE. 

Come the next GE I guarantee we'll see the same reasons a great many will ignore the ballot, many of whom will no doubt expend energy criticising the subsequent governments policies on internet forums where their opinions ultimately count for nothing while there's probably a polling station at the end of their street.

Edit : Apologies for twisting your point to fit mine a bit there pat. 

[Gawge]

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fski wrote:

By not voting you're only contributing to the problem. I'd like to know what alternative to democracy those that didn't vote would put forward and what exactly complacency will achieve.

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Vote or die.

[BettySwollocks92]

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Gawge wrote:
Anybody in a place with a referendum on whether to have an elected Mayor?

All places have voted against so far. I think that is good news personally - it just turns politics into a personality contest.

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I was glad about that too we'd only get to the stage where Cheryl f******g Cole or Peter B*****d Andre get voted in and I don't think that's good thing

and well said Fski you'd get my vote for mayor of the OPC