General Discussion

[Sir_Gunnalot]

Opinions, people...

To buck the trend of this thread, I'm going to strike out on a limb here and say I actually like modern music. Okay, I don't like ALL modern music. I don't like Lady Gaga, but I love Paparazzi. I don't like Pop Idol/X Factor, but there has been some good stuff from those shows, and I don't care what you say, I like some of Will Young's music

The point I'm trying to make here, is that it's not healthy for people to "hate hate hate" all the time, and it's not good sense to dislike a song just "because it's dubstep" or some other variant of music. I have CDs in my collection from just about every decade from the 60s to now, and I've got about 700 songs on my iPod from about 500 different artists.

Mind you, it's probably just as bad going the opposite way as well. Obsessives, like Beliebers and anybody who likes Lady Gaga, Cheryl Cole, Rihanna or Katy Perry tend to irritate me, because all they're doing is following the norm and not really listening to the music. They're doing it to be cool, to be hip, to follow the trends (and that's how the record companies hook you, but that's a different argument altogether), not because they actually like the music. It shows a disturbing lack of depth in their taste in music.

[Diddymow]

I remember MCR before they went mainstream Those were the days.

Inb4 boring predictable emo joke.

[ArsenalMark]

If you don't like the music... Just don't listen to it? Simple no? O_O

*goes back to Dean Martin*

[rancidpunk]

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Ricz1000 wrote:
Really basic view you got of dubstep there.

Ever listened to songs such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9acJBNROKA or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXamR7cXCa4

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I have no idea, nor interest, in what a sub genre of music dubstep might be. However, I'm not sure putting up a song with a paint by numbers europap baseline would be a good showcase for it. I'd have said 'Me and You' would be a better choice despite, ironically, being a more mainstream one.

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Diddymow wrote:
I remember MCR before they went mainstream Those were the days.

Inb4 boring predictable emo joke.

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One album from 2002, nostalgia eh, lol. My only thoughts on emo is that none of the bands lumped with that label sound anything like the post hardcore DC bands where it actually originated. More pointless labelling that seems to put barriers in the way of people just enjoying music they like.

At least MCR stand less chance of being bottled this year at Reading, I think the organisers may have realised following Slayer onto stage wasn't the best idea a few years back!

[THE_FORCE]

It seems to be as time moves on, there are fewer tunes and artists that are appealing. Manufactured 'bands' and 'artists' seem to be the mainstream now. A plastic culture with little talent.

Even dance music has become less innovative, where once the U.K was at the top of the game with bedroom releases that were fresh and exciting, now it seems that most material is a carbon copy of everything else.

[Tinnyalla]

MaInstream pop culture these days sort of depresses me about the sort of society it is shaping. Music is just one aspect of the mainstream pollution

TV, Games (to some extent), Music, Fashion, Celebrities and Facebook

These all tend to create, like someone said before 'plastic' people. And the whole of society is conforming and just consuming all these things.

I'm so glad to be 'outside the loop' as I tend to call it, when I appreciate my own taste in music, don't watch much/if any TV. And actually go out, be creative, learn as much as I can (learning the swedish language at the moment, if you must know) But I just wish society could step back and look at what's being created before them.

Anyway, agree with a lot of what's said in this thread, and my own particular view of dubstep is...that some dubstep is very good. Mt Eden Dubstep for example I do enjoy

Mt Eden Dubstep - Still Alive (lisa Miskovsky - Swedish

[PatC_PSN]

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THE_FORCE wrote:
It seems to be as time moves on, there are fewer tunes and artists that are appealing. Manufactured 'bands' and 'artists' seem to be the mainstream now. A plastic culture with little talent.

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Some people claim that to be a function of getting older, and that music today is as good as it has always been. There is undoubtedly an element of that given that our tastes change, and we reject the shallow trends and fashions we had previously been drawn to. That aside, the claim is nonsense. Originality and diversity in popular music have been largely displaced by the need for a homogeneous noise that is relatively safe in commercial terms - at least in the mainstream. All part of the wider trend to try and eliminate risk.

I can't see anyone buying an entire collection of the work of any modern band in 45 years time, as I did recently with the Beatles.

[Makkendaali]

The problem I have with something like Dubstep is that it isn´t a skill-based thing. Don´t interpret that the wrong way, I absolutely despise music that amounts to nothing but uber-shred. But for someone incredibly awesome like myself to write a song, I have to pick up an instrument that I´ve actually practiced playing for years and years and shock horror, actually do something that requires talent.

Go ahead and fire up some computer program and copy-paste some samples, just don´t try to pass yourself off as a musician because I can assure you, using a computer program does not qualify you as one...

... and neither does drumming

[owenp185]

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Makkendaali wrote:

The problem I have with something like Dubstep is that it isn´t a skill-based thing. Don´t interpret that the wrong way, I absolutely despise music that amounts to nothing but uber-shred. But for someone incredibly awesome like myself to write a song, I have to pick up an instrument that I´ve actually practiced playing for years and years and shock horror, actually do something that requires talent.

Go ahead and fire up some computer program and copy-paste some samples, just don´t try to pass yourself off as a musician because I can assure you, using a computer program does not qualify you as one...

... and neither does drumming

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You obviously are making this assumption without having and real experience of creating music digitally. Playing an instrument does require skill but so does software. Are you aware people who use softwares create the songs with keyboards, drum machines etc? Copy and paste is rarely used, everything from the bass to vocals would be done live in the studio.

Honestly my girlfriend plays piano, the sax and does gigs and stuff, but when she is introduced to composing a song on computer she is totally lost lol. All I'm saying it takes a great deal of skill to create good music otherwise everyone would be a pro. At the very least it makes you good at keyboard and timing.

[Spotter5]

I love Lena <3

She is almost unheard of in England, her albums are only released digitally... So I guess she isn't mainstream here. But she is MASSIVE in Germany and Europe. You know the Corsa advert where theres a guy driving though a city and there is animated doodles on the walls? Well in Europe Lena is in that advert with her music <3 Stupid England decides were not good enough for her...