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LordRoss
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Message 31 of 59 (187 Views)

Re: OK, so they've found the God Particle, does that now mean we eventually get transporter technolo

To be honest I think I would prefer a Portal gun.

 

At least that doesn't involve me getting destroyed and then remade.  The new me wouldn't be me, but just a copy of me.  Experiences from chinese whispers warns me that this is a dodgy idea.

 

A portal gun however would be just epic!

 

 

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ProjectVRD
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Message 32 of 59 (180 Views)

Re: OK, so they've found the God Particle, does that now mean we eventually get transporter technolo


WJB1 wrote:

The term 'god particle' makes little to no sense - it's just a title the media have given it to show how important the work being done on it is.



Are you sure about that? I have friend who told me that although it got it's name from somebody involved in a form of media, it was originally nicknamed 'gaddamn particle' because of the difficulty in finding it but the scientist's editor would not allow the use of that word in the publication.

 

They aren't involved in physics science, but instead Biology and chemistry, I know you however are involved in physcis science so I would like to know if the above is true.

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Message 33 of 59 (171 Views)

Re: OK, so they've found the God Particle, does that now mean we eventually get transporter technolo


hydra25 wrote:
Even if you could teleport, it would kill you.

Besically one end of the teleporter would destroy you at one end, send you to the destination and then rebuild you, meaning that none of your memories or thoughts would exist anymore and also as fen said it would take too long to transfer the sheer amount of data needed.

As far as I know physicists have only been able to teleport a single photon a very short distance.


Not entirely accurate, memories are nothing more than potrutions within the fibres in our brains. As we build a memory we are actually building more physical potrutions along an ultra thin piece of brain matter. Physcially it looks like the stem of a rose plant, a stringy material with a bump coming out at various places. When these potrutions "or thorns of rose stem" are spiked with electricity in a certain combination it recalls the memory that had the exact electrical spike combination that created it.

 

For the memories to be intact after a body has been reconstructed through teleportation the brain would have to be an exact copy down to the exact position of every strand of brain matter, and every potrution would need to be put in the same place as before. Interestingly it is because of this we now think it is impossible to share memories with another person, because every brain is "wired" differently. All those strands criss cross in a different pattern from one human to the next, for it to work the person recieving somebody else memories would have to have the same brain but in their body at which point philosophy wades in, is the recipient a different person after all or essentially a clone because the anatomy may suggst that they have the same mind.

 

It is freaky to think that our memories are nothing more tha nobules of organic brain matter that stick out and get shot with electric, it is almost easier to believe a higher being must be responsible as our memories feel far more personal than something which biologically speaking is so lacking of any personality.

 

Dreaming is thought to be related these little growths on the strands of brain material we create to record a memory. Everybody knows we forget things forever and not only have we seen these memory thorn like structure grow when creating a memory, we have seen them disappear during the dream phase. Not fully understood yet but it is believed the brain is defragging anmd performing a clean up, with every single memory you have created being re-run and the ones not needed being deleted... so to say. It is just that you are effectively multitasking by running many memories at once that they seem so wierd and you find yourself breathing under water with no problem, because you have a memory of breating and another being under water at some point in your life. 

 

The memories your brain chooses to keep are those that are the most unique as it may help with survival lessons such helping your baby to walk for the first time, whereas remembering what it was you ate nine and half weeks ago at seven in the evening is not essential to surival and thus we have the misleading assumption our short term memories are bad. It turns out it might not be the case, a bad short term memory might be one that records and keeps everything for those with photographic memories are known to be not so good at problem solving.

 

I am waffling now, I recommend interneting it because can explain the physiology of memories better on the scientific journals. :smileyhappy:

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hydra25
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Message 34 of 59 (169 Views)

Re: OK, so they've found the God Particle, does that now mean we eventually get transporter technolo

I'm basing all my knowledge on vague memories of a James May documentary and things Brian Cox told me.

There's a reason I failed my physics A Levels.

Nice to get it narrowed down and that I was vaguely right.

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Re: OK, so they've found the God Particle, does that now mean we eventually get transporter technolo

yea i also think that

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ProjectVRD
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Message 36 of 59 (164 Views)

Re: OK, so they've found the God Particle, does that now mean we eventually get transporter technolo


hydra25 wrote:
I'm basing all my knowledge on vague memories of a James May documentary and things Brian Cox told me.

There's a reason I failed my physics A Levels.

Nice to get it narrowed down and that I was vaguely right.


You know what you said could very well be right from a technological perspective, will we ever have enough computing knowhow to make everything go back exactly as it was? Probably not and certainly not in our lifetime and that would mean what you wrote was entirely correct, although I don't know the truth about what I am going to say... I doubt we have created enough combined hard drive space in our species history to store all the information to map out a human brain down the very level of the atom. So many things to consider, we may go extinct before creating a storage medium capable of holding that amount of data. :smileyhappy:

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Message 37 of 59 (147 Views)

Re: OK, so they've found the God Particle, does that now mean we eventually get transporter technolo


ProjectVRD wrote:

hydra25 wrote:
Even if you could teleport, it would kill you.

Besically one end of the teleporter would destroy you at one end, send you to the destination and then rebuild you, meaning that none of your memories or thoughts would exist anymore and also as fen said it would take too long to transfer the sheer amount of data needed.

As far as I know physicists have only been able to teleport a single photon a very short distance.


Not entirely accurate, memories are nothing more than potrutions within the fibres in our brains. As we build a memory we are actually building more physical potrutions along an ultra thin piece of brain matter. Physcially it looks like the stem of a rose plant, a stringy material with a bump coming out at various places. When these potrutions "or thorns of rose stem" are spiked with electricity in a certain combination it recalls the memory that had the exact electrical spike combination that created it.

 

For the memories to be intact after a body has been reconstructed through teleportation the brain would have to be an exact copy down to the exact position of every strand of brain matter, and every potrution would need to be put in the same place as before. Interestingly it is because of this we now think it is impossible to share memories with another person, because every brain is "wired" differently. All those strands criss cross in a different pattern from one human to the next, for it to work the person recieving somebody else memories would have to have the same brain but in their body at which point philosophy wades in, is the recipient a different person after all or essentially a clone because the anatomy may suggst that they have the same mind.

 

It is freaky to think that our memories are nothing more tha nobules of organic brain matter that stick out and get shot with electric, it is almost easier to believe a higher being must be responsible as our memories feel far more personal than something which biologically speaking is so lacking of any personality.

 

Dreaming is thought to be related these little growths on the strands of brain material we create to record a memory. Everybody knows we forget things forever and not only have we seen these memory thorn like structure grow when creating a memory, we have seen them disappear during the dream phase. Not fully understood yet but it is believed the brain is defragging anmd performing a clean up, with every single memory you have created being re-run and the ones not needed being deleted... so to say. It is just that you are effectively multitasking by running many memories at once that they seem so wierd and you find yourself breathing under water with no problem, because you have a memory of breating and another being under water at some point in your life. 

 

The memories your brain chooses to keep are those that are the most unique as it may help with survival lessons such helping your baby to walk for the first time, whereas remembering what it was you ate nine and half weeks ago at seven in the evening is not essential to surival and thus we have the misleading assumption our short term memories are bad. It turns out it might not be the case, a bad short term memory might be one that records and keeps everything for those with photographic memories are known to be not so good at problem solving.

 

I am waffling now, I recommend interneting it because can explain the physiology of memories better on the scientific journals. :smileyhappy:


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WJB1
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Message 38 of 59 (141 Views)

Re: OK, so they've found the God Particle, does that now mean we eventually get transporter technolo


Kermit1970 wrote:
Ok so they've found this particle which gives others mass. Now the question is where does this particle get its mass from?

 

E=mc^2. It gets its mass from its energy, that's why it's reported in electronvolts, a unit of energy.

 

Mikal_Drey wrote:

IF they actually have found the Higgs Boson...  What is that made of :/

 

Energy.

 

ProjectVRD wrote:
WJB1 wrote:

The term 'god particle' makes little to no sense - it's just a title the media have given it to show how important the work being done on it is.


Are you sure about that? I have friend who told me that although it got it's name from somebody involved in a form of media, it was originally nicknamed 'gaddamn particle' because of the difficulty in finding it but the scientist's editor would not allow the use of that word in the publication.

 

They aren't involved in physics science, but instead Biology and chemistry, I know you however are involved in physcis science so I would like to know if the above is true.

 

Yeah, that was where the name originally came from, I don't think he liked the term 'god particle' though and didn't intended for the name to catch on, but the media kind of jumped on it due to the majesty invoked by the word 'god'.

 

I'm a biochemist, although we do apply some physics, half of it doesn't make sense to me.

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Re: OK, so they've found the God Particle, does that now mean we eventually get transporter technolo

 

basically its a particle made by god and without it we wouldnt be able to interact with stuff ect ect

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Re: OK, so they've found the God Particle, does that now mean we eventually get transporter technolo


That_Soton wrote:

 

basically its a particle made by god and without it we wouldnt be able to interact with stuff ect ect


That's OK because the New World Order will sort that out, won't it? :Lol:

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