General Discussion

[ProjectVRD]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16679174

I am happy with this, because I never used these sites anyway. It is a good way forward.

[shanethegooner]

Just use DropBox or Google Storage tbh.

[Chuk_Chuk]

Good way to start but still doesn't address one of the main problems. Also it sucks for the legit users.

[Plambey]

if you never used the site anyway then i dont understand why you are happy. for those who use it legitimately it is an inconvenience...

[shanethegooner]

If you're going to use sites like these for "legitimate" reasons, I don't understand why anyone would want to use Megaupload or Filesonic since they have captchas, wait times, ads, etc...

Dropbox and Google Storage work just fine if you need to backup a file to the cloud or send it to someone you know.

[Strangesam]

Bit of a screwover for legitimate users.

[Muttykins]

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ProjectVRD wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16679174

I am happy with this, because I never used these sites anyway. It is a good way forward.

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I don't see how this is a good step forward as the guy who owned the site wasn't responsible for putting the files up there.

And considering most pirated material is leaked from the companies themselves they should start looking at plugging their own leaks before trying stop piracy elsewhere.

[Domiiinatrix]

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Muttykins wrote:

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ProjectVRD wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16679174

I am happy with this, because I never used these sites anyway. It is a good way forward.

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I don't see how this is a good step forward as the guy who owned the site wasn't responsible for putting the files up there.

And considering most pirated material is leaked from the companies themselves they should start looking at plugging their own leaks before trying stop piracy elsewhere.

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Have to agree with this tbh. It's a bit like closing streets to stop prostitution.

[ProjectVRD]

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Domiiinatrix wrote:

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Muttykins wrote:

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ProjectVRD wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16679174

I am happy with this, because I never used these sites anyway. It is a good way forward.

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I don't see how this is a good step forward as the guy who owned the site wasn't responsible for putting the files up there.

And considering most pirated material is leaked from the companies themselves they should start looking at plugging their own leaks before trying stop piracy elsewhere.

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Have to agree with this tbh. It's a bit like closing streets to stop prostitution.

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But the thing is the authorities own the streets so they are the ones trying to stop the prostitution with the police then following it up if a complaint is raised, just like the owners of this site are the ones who are now taking steps to stop the piracy... except they ain't raising complaints with the police.

Remember that it could be argued that the site owner may have a responsibility to do his/her part in combating illegal activities on their site.

This would be the most effective way of doing it and it keeps the owners out of trouble, under current laws I think the site owners would now be in the clear even if they are still found to have links to illegal products... because they are trying to combat it. This is what ultimately drove the nail into Megaupload.

As for legimate users, there is always P2P technology so they can still transfer files between themselves and other they know.

[I_reaps_I]

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ProjectVRD wrote:

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Domiiinatrix wrote:

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Muttykins wrote:

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ProjectVRD wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16679174

I am happy with this, because I never used these sites anyway. It is a good way forward.

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I don't see how this is a good step forward as the guy who owned the site wasn't responsible for putting the files up there.

And considering most pirated material is leaked from the companies themselves they should start looking at plugging their own leaks before trying stop piracy elsewhere.

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Have to agree with this tbh. It's a bit like closing streets to stop prostitution.

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But the thing is the authorities own the streets so they are the ones trying to stop the prostitution with the police then following it up if a complaint is raised, just like the owners of this site are the ones who are now taking steps to stop the piracy... except they ain't raising complaints with the police.

Remember that it could be argued that the site owner may have a responsibility to do his/her part in combating illegal activities on their site.

This would be the most effective way of doing it and it keeps the owners out of trouble, under current laws I think the site owners would now be in the clear even if they are still found to have links to illegal products... because they are trying to combat it. This is what ultimately drove the nail into Megaupload.

As for legimate users, there is always P2P technology so they can still transfer files between themselves and other they know.

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A few other upload sites have disabled the ability to share uploaded content since megaupload being dealt with. It does raise the question of how much the owners of these sites are indifferent to illigal activities on their sites, until it could cost them personally.

The current framework, of a copyright holder being able to contact a site to have material taken down, only works with constructive site owners who fully respect copyright laws... The type of site owners who would go beyond the legal minimum requirements in order to combat piracy. At some point, if a site owner shows an inability to deal with the copyright infringement on their site, even if they are doing everything they can, there is obviously a serious flaw with the site itself that needs to be dealt with. An intermediate step, such as enforced consultation on anti piracy measures,  should exist between the safe heaven status and the in jail status. If they are still unable after getting help, then the site and its owners should be dealt with by the law

The current framework does need a tweak, but anything the entertainment industry proposes is often draconian and unworkable in a large law abiding internet.