Level 3
Logicintuwisdom wrote:Spotter5 wrote:I water board mine.Yes, that was very funny, but you're not going to dilute this thread - capisce?!!!!
Well the little bugger went off and bought a load of sweets and a beano with the money i gave him to buy me some cider. I had to to do it to teach him a lesson. He's 8 years old, enough to know he should'nt do that.
and my name isn't Caprice!
Level 6
PatC_PSN wrote:
Logicintuwisdom wrote:For me at least, I don't think the views of people who don't have children are as pertinent as those that do.
And I'd agree. Of course you don't need to have had children to have a valid opinion on the matter, but it is necessary to appreciate the gaps between parenting theory and reality.
I also agree with this.
Logicintuwisdom wrote:
In these hysterical and paranoid times regarding children I think you ran the risk of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk for posting a photo like that! I actually found myself laughing at it and then wondering and feeling slighly guilty whether I even should have been laughing at it!
I have no idea who's child that is, I just happened to find that image this morning doing an image search for "put the baby back"...
Logicintuwisdom wrote:
Would you please elaborate on "I also wonder how the distribution of parent/non-parent compares to the distribution of pro/anti smacking."
Are you being cynical and saying something along the lines of parents need to have eyes in the back of their heads to keep up with the antics that kids get up to these days, never mind disciplining them?!!!
Not remotely and struggle to see how you got from A to B.
As someone else posted, I'm just wondering (suspecting) if the pro camp is comprised of actual parents, while the anti camp is composed of non-parents with idealistic views of hypothetical parenting. Not in their entireties, but predominantly.
Level 3
Logicintuwisdom wrote:When they are naughty, are you:-
a) A smacker?
b) Naughter stepper?
c) You use another form of discipline?
Whether a) b) or c), please state what parameters you have decided to set for yourself for the way you have chosen to discipline YOUR children?
Also, do you feel your views are the same as what you hear in the media and our present day society or do they differ slightly or greatly as to what is the correct way to discipline our next generation?
I've tried both A&B over time and both have no real benefit. Smacking only offers a momentary short sharp shock that the child does not remember long term. That in itself is a debatable point if you consider the different development stages of children and at what age you are smacking the child.
Infant's will have no long term recollection of the event but children around 7 will remember. If it's an infant there is no long term memory recollection for the child to change the behaviour that you smacked them for so it turns out to be a useless exercise for the most part.
For a 7 year old if they remember the event it would be better to educate them using other methods like actually talking to them rather than smacking them. What is either child learning from the event of being smacked? To fear a parent or are they learning why they were smacked?
Sending a child to a naughty corner also doesnt work long term. All it does is make the child feel alienated. What are they actually learning from it? That if they do something an adult does not like this is what will happen? Anytime I've tried this with my daughter I've always ended up having to explain to her the reason why the punishment was given.
I'v found that talking to her to explain and educate why the behaviour was bad or incorrect, without the need to send her into a corner, onto a step or whatever alienating description a parent uses for a naughty step had much better outcomes. Again though it all depends on the age of the child and what stage in development they are at.
Infants are notoriously difficult to discipline. There is no correct method and every parent is different. We have all witnessed the parent in a supermarket shouting at or smacking their child to control the child's behaviour. Would I criticise that parent? No. It is how that parent chooses to control the situation and discipline their child.
Would it be how I dealt with the situation? I honestly might have dealt with it the same way, because even though I dont believe smacking is a long term benefial way of dealing with a misbehaving child, sometimes the short sharp shock works and that is why this subject is such a difficult subject.
That being said though I've tried others methods like reverse psychology such as saying 'why dont you just play in the house' when really I want her to play outside. That doesnt really work either though as all I'm doing is being deceptive. It's not really an ideal thing to teach a child but I would hazard a guess that most parent's have used the method as an alternative.
In conclusion though, there is no correct method for disciplining a child, every parent must find their own way that they are happy with that helps in the development of their children that does not harm the child in the long run. For parents such as myself and my wife we can only speak for ourselves and say that we hope we did the right things in her development. I think that's how most parents would see it.
Level 2
Spotter5 wrote:
Logicintuwisdom wrote:
Spotter5 wrote:
I water board mine.
Yes, that was very funny, but you're not going to dilute this thread - capisce?!
Well the little bugger went off & bought a load of sweets & a beano with the money i gave him to buy me some cider. I had to to do it to teach him a lesson. He's 8 years old, enough to know he should'nt do that. & my name isn't Caprice!Well assuming you're not winding me up in the first place - & I know damn well that you are:-
a) You shouldn't be sending him off to buy you alcohol in the first place!
b) You shouldn't be getting blotto, whilst you're looking after this eight year old anyway, unless there is another sober adult in the buidling; & even then I'm sure you're being blotto around him regardless isn't a healthy influence.
c) I didn't call you caprice I said capisce - which you well know what I mean & you're being a disruptive wind up merchant!
Please desist you activities on this thread at one - you're being a silly person!
Level 6
Logicintuwisdom wrote:Spotter5 wrote:Logicintuwisdom wrote:Spotter5 wrote:I water board mine.Yes, that was very funny, but you're not going to dilute this thread - capisce?!Well the little bugger went off & bought a load of sweets & a beano with the money i gave him to buy me some cider. I had to to do it to teach him a lesson. He's 8 years old, enough to know he should'nt do that. & my name isn't Caprice!Well assuming you're not winding me up in the first place - & I know damn well that you are:-a) You shouldn't be sending him off to buy you alcohol in the first place!b) You shouldn't be getting blotto, whilst you're looking after this eight year old anyway, unless there is another sober adult in the buidling; & even then I'm sure you're being blotto around him regardless isn't a healthy influence.c) I didn't call you caprice I said capisce - which you well know what I mean & you're being a disruptive wind up merchant!Please desist you activities on this thread at one - you're being a silly person!
Yes, please. Disappear from the forums while you're at it FaultyLogic.
Level 3
xElfenLied_US wrote:
Logicintuwisdom wrote:Spotter5 wrote:Logicintuwisdom wrote:Spotter5 wrote:I water board mine.Yes, that was very funny, but you're not going to dilute this thread - capisce?!Well the little bugger went off & bought a load of sweets & a beano with the money i gave him to buy me some cider. I had to to do it to teach him a lesson. He's 8 years old, enough to know he should'nt do that. & my name isn't Caprice!Well assuming you're not winding me up in the first place - & I know damn well that you are:-a) You shouldn't be sending him off to buy you alcohol in the first place!b) You shouldn't be getting blotto, whilst you're looking after this eight year old anyway, unless there is another sober adult in the buidling; & even then I'm sure you're being blotto around him regardless isn't a healthy influence.c) I didn't call you caprice I said capisce - which you well know what I mean & you're being a disruptive wind up merchant!Please desist you activities on this thread at one - you're being a silly person!
Yes, please. Disappear from the forums while you're at it FaultyLogic.
Would you like it if i said that about you? Give the guy a break, he has every right to be here just as you do.
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