on 14-06-2012 04:46 PM
anomolousblob wrote:
Logicintuwisdom wrote:
I've tried both A&B over time and both have no real benefit. Etc.,
This was an excellent reply, though I think you have a split-personality! One minute yr slagging me off the next you seem to be agreeing with me,
I hope everybody reads it & especially someone in government, to give them some pointers as to what a good policy on the issue should be.
However, the one thing you didn't address, which I feel needs urgently sorting out in society as a whole on this 'paranoid' area of debate surrounding how best to instill discipline in our young - is WHAT IS DISCIPLINE AND WHAT IS ABUSE?
If you don't believe me when I use the word 'paranoid' (& I'm saying this to everybody), just look especially at the first reply & a few after, that I received, after asking the main multi-choice question at the beginning of this thread.
It seems similar to the debacle of what is 'reasonable force' to protect your family, home & yourself when in public, the law is
(cont.)
on 14-06-2012 04:48 PM
on 14-06-2012 04:51 PM
(Continued to anomolousblob)
the law is vague & unclear. On discipline, I've made it crystal clear on one of my posts in this thread, precisely where I feel the dividing line should be - where is it for you everyone?
14-06-2012 05:02 PM - edited 14-06-2012 05:06 PM
It's time for food and a No.2 - not necessarily in that order, but it is most assuredly time for a cup of Rosie Lee!
I'm a gasping!
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on 14-06-2012 05:04 PM
Logicintuwisdom wrote:(Continued to anomolousblob)
the law is vague & unclear. On discipline, I've made it crystal clear on one of my posts in this thread, precisely where I feel the dividing line should be - where is it for you everyone?
If your posting tripe I'll tell you that. I thought this subject was a good discussion so I replied in that way.
Like I mentioned in my original reply, it is upto the individual parent/s to define any dividing liine on what discipline is acceptable or not. The only regulation that a parent can actually refer to on the matter is the 2004 Children's Act which permits mild smacking under 'reasonable chastisement'.
In that Act any smacking that causes bruises, cuts, grazes, swelling is punishable with a 5year prison sentence. If your looking for a dividing line then that is it as the law currently stands.
on 14-06-2012 05:05 PM
14-06-2012 05:23 PM - edited 14-06-2012 05:43 PM
anomolousblob wrote:
Logicintuwisdom wrote:
(Continued to anomolousblob)
Etc., .....swelling is punishable with a 5year prison sentence.If your looking for a dividing line then that is it as the law currently stands. Interesting the word 'swelling'.
If I was naughty when I was a kid, my dad sometimes smacked me hard - so it left the red mark of his hand on my arm/leg, & if memory serves me correctly some male teachers as well, which would soon dissipate. I was a little horror as a kid sometimes. My dad was strict with me to a certain degree, but I'd be horrifed if he'd got 5 years for leaving his hand-mark on my arm for a little while.
This is why I say 'swelling' is interesting. I don't think if someone hit's a child so that smack might briefly leave a mark is grounds for 5 years imprisonment.
I appreicate it would be at the judges discretion & then again some people mark & bruise more easily than others.
It's a difficult one this; but it sounds to me, that the law could still stand some fine-tuning!
on 14-06-2012 05:31 PM
EdwCarnby wrote:If it was the other way round, I'd wonder what you were eating! ..
Most of your posts are really irritating, especially when you were getting on your 'homosexual bandwagon loud-hailer', but that last post was actually really funny for you!
Nice one!
on 14-06-2012 05:36 PM
Logicintuwisdom wrote:EdwCarnby wrote:If it was the other way round, I'd wonder what you were eating! ..Most of your posts are really irritating, especially when you were getting on your 'homosexual bandwagon loud-hailer', but that last post was actually really funny for you!Nice one!
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on 14-06-2012 07:09 PM
Logicintuwisdom wrote:Spotter5 wrote:Logicintuwisdom wrote:Spotter5 wrote:I water board mine.Yes, that was very funny, but you're not going to dilute this thread - capisce?!Well the little bugger went off & bought a load of sweets & a beano with the money i gave him to buy me some cider. I had to to do it to teach him a lesson. He's 8 years old, enough to know he should'nt do that. & my name isn't Caprice!Well assuming you're not winding me up in the first place - & I know damn well that you are:-a) You shouldn't be sending him off to buy you alcohol in the first place!b) You shouldn't be getting blotto, whilst you're looking after this eight year old anyway, unless there is another sober adult in the buidling; & even then I'm sure you're being blotto around him regardless isn't a healthy influence.c) I didn't call you caprice I said capisce - which you well know what I mean & you're being a disruptive wind up merchant!Please desist you activities on this thread at one - you're being a silly person!
Well if you must know I get drunk on purpose around him, see, when I get drunk I become very violent and abusive. Sometimes i'll hit him and the misses (before she left me) I do it to show him that alcohol is bad. I'm sure he'll grow up and never touch a drop.
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