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02 Feb 2012
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so i got my second birthday car yesterday. A humble isuzu piazza xe '81 and it got me thinking. If there are only premiums in gt6 then a lot of these obscure cars will be dropped in favour of newer cars. This might cause a drop in the scope of the car selection in gt6.

With this in mind, i wouldnt be averse to keeping the current crop of standards in addition to the new additions in gt6. At least it wud keep the car selection high. What do the rest of you think?
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happy birthday 

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With this in mind, i wouldnt be averse to keeping the current crop of standards in addition to the new additions in gt6. At least it wud keep the car selection high. What do the rest of you think?


Happy Birthday, deadpeasant!

 

PD will likely keep the current cars in GT6, but it is anybody's guess what resolution they will be in, really.

 

Keep in mind, each car still has to be individually licenced, too.

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thanks for that! well yeah i know but the selection of cars makes gran turismo what it is, it would be a shame to lose that.

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I dont care if they keep these cars but i dont want them standard... they shlould all be to the same quality level as premium cars

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That's all well and good, deadpeasant, but it took PD how many years to come out with about only 200 Premiums initially in GT5, and Kaz had said that he wants to look towards doing new cars more than the old ones, so how long do you propose that we wait while they add in the other 800 or so?

 

It's nice to want the higher quality of the Premium cars, but it looks as if the Standard ones will be around for a while longer, if PD wants these cars in GT and if PD keeps working on giving us new ones, too. If it was a quick / easy / simple task to convert them, time would not be a concern.

 

However, this is a beaten-dead-horse subject.

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A lot of those cars have the same interiors like the many skylines, mx5s and evos etc... Plus there are other games which have managed over 300 cars with interiors. Even the premium cars lack a "new car" gloss. In photo mode that's the main thing that let's them down. The cars aren't shiney enough and the shadows do my head in. Let's face it they could have done a lot more graphic wise with the time given. In my own opinion standard cars on gt5 are the worst looking out of any car game of this time. Not to mention very few of them sound like they do in real life.
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I only point this stuff out in hope it will be fixed for gt6.
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Oh come on people, we haven't even got GT5 sorted yet & your starting to worry about GT6?

Guys your talking about a game that 18 months ago was (in Katunori Yamauchi's own words "GT5 is the last") never going to be. lt took 5 years to get launched (& it's only now 14 months later, getting close to what it should have been on release) & an interim GT5 Prologue version to sweeeten us GT fans (information gathering database in reality).

Based on the fact that GT5 (7.3m) flopped by GT3 (14.9m) & GT4 (11.3m) standards it was a naff game @ launch & I know a quite a few die hard fans who sold it within a week, & who only now regret.

By the time they polish GT5 & really crack on with GT6, technological advancements will be giving Katunori Yamauchi & his team even greater dilemma's than they did with GT5.

By the time it's ready, circa 2018+ going by GT3 to GT4 & GT4 to  GT5 release's (dont forget we'll have GT6 Epilogue or whatever beforehand for information gathering & data analyses) there will likely be a facility to transfer your entire garage across to it @ some point. Possibly in the format of say 100% race completion or something? They might even decide to just have cars never seen before in any previous versions which would be a refreshing change from the same old same old cars we see in all 5 full versions of the GT series (maybe l've just answered your question & we will stay with the same old "Trademark" cars like the Chapperal's etc too?) Just a couple of theological idea's & anything somewhere between the two is as close as we are likely to be reguarding what Katunori Yamauchi has planed so far & what his final version will be. You guys are getting worried about things too far in the future to even try to contemplate or deliberate, let alone be right. Stop flogging a dead horse & lets see what the demo's & official press releases say about content etc nearer the time. This is an age old thread reguarding the GT series & "PEER PRESSURE" results in a poor game @ lauch. l for one don't want a repeat of GT5's lack of playability (analogue stick) reguarding Red Bull X2010 & GT Formula Racer in first few weeks or the inability to save a 24hr race ruining several weekends in A spec. The 1 good feature in the early days was the cloning of all cars. They ruined that early on with capping daily limits & maximum cost & never gave us serious money making races to buy the mega expensive used cars when they appeared (occasionally we do now though). l'm going on too much now, but just venting my frustrations @ the game series that aledgedly sets the standards for others to follow & in that respect GT5 lost serious ground to the so called "competion." (the only driving simulator has competition?" I Guess by competition, they mean other driving games?

So stop worrying about things on the far distant horizon & focus on the things that are current. Like GT5 issues for instance. Getting GT5 sorted will aid GT6 in respect that Katsunori Yamauchi himself has said issues that cannot be fixed via dlc updates etc will be fixed in GT6.

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hopefully gt6 will let u import cars from gt5 like forza 4 u can import cars from forza 3
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it would be nice see some those new D T M 2012 racing cars the new mercs ,audi,s , and the new b m w s, that have just started racing this year,and also how about the g t racing porsches for a change instead of the old R U F one,s time they were updated and as well the aston martin g t racers . i would also like to see on the seasonal events on line some rally races as all the races seem to be either g t or normal cars be nice for a change ,but they need re tweek those rally cars there all fine but there handling leaves a lot to be desired compared to other rally type games you get for the playstation as it,s a waste of time racing them againest the higher spec cars when your racing in seasonal events on line . i have try but end,s up a waste of time better sticking to the dealer ship cars or the used ones when your racing .though it is nice to see the ferrari,s for a change pity they only have 3 racing cars ,the 2 f 1 models and the 1960,s racer.saying that i upgrades a enzo the other day to race it in the class 650 pp class scary drive but went through the other racers like a rocket .wel one last thing the prize money in the A spec and B spec should be more takes to long to get a decent money in the bank i ended up racing on line in seasonal events made some real money to get more cars and upgrade them quicker. and if you want beat that B M W F 1 maclaren buy it ,put a turbo in it add racing soft tyres then derate the engine pp back down to 650 pp in engine limiter in garage before you race on line .so all we need to know when and if g t 6 will appear hopefully on the P  S 3 before the P S 4 appears in the shops .

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afgk1953 wrote:

it would be nice see some those new D T M 2012 racing cars the new mercs ,audi,s , and the new b m w s, that have just started racing this year,and also how about the g t racing porsches for a change instead of the old R U F one,s time they were updated and as well the aston martin g t racers . i would also like to see on the seasonal events on line some rally races as all the races seem to be either g t or normal cars be nice for a change ,but they need re tweek those rally cars there all fine but there handling leaves a lot to be desired compared to other rally type games you get for the playstation as it,s a waste of time racing them againest the higher spec cars when your racing in seasonal events on line . i have try but end,s up a waste of time better sticking to the dealer ship cars or the used ones when your racing .though it is nice to see the ferrari,s for a change pity they only have 3 racing cars ,the 2 f 1 models and the 1960,s racer.saying that i upgrades a enzo the other day to race it in the class 650 pp class scary drive but went through the other racers like a rocket .wel one last thing the prize money in the A spec and B spec should be more takes to long to get a decent money in the bank i ended up racing on line in seasonal events made some real money to get more cars and upgrade them quicker. and if you want beat that B M W F 1 maclaren buy it ,put a turbo in it add racing soft tyres then derate the engine pp back down to 650 pp in engine limiter in garage before you race on line .so all we need to know when and if g t 6 will appear hopefully on the P  S 3 before the P S 4 appears in the shops .


I agree with all your ideas there. Unfortunatly porsches can't be added because EA is hogging the copyright for them so no other racing games can have porsches.

 

I doubt we will be waiting as long for GT6 so i think its worth thinking about now. Yes it takes a long time to model a car, thats why maybe keeping the standard range for a game longer would be a good idea in my opinion.

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Other games, such as FORZA, can have Porsches, if they are willing to pony up for them and get sub-licenced.

 

PD and SONY are not willing to go that far.

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Other games, such as FORZA, can have Porsches, if they are willing to pony up for them and get sub-licenced.

 

PD and SONY are not willing to go that far.


True, but thats a slippery slope. If business practice like that is validated by giving the likes of EA money for liscences then they could just buy another liscence and do the same thing. Then where will it end?

 

PD and Sony are very wise not to enter into such a deal.

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I'm not sure what you mean.

 

EA's licence is exclusive, so PD can't get another one on their own.

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Every standard car could be upgraded into premium state, people still believes that tracks, physics and everything else except cars are made in 1 month (for example) PD tries to replicate cars into the game, and premium ones are very well done to be honest, if PD would hire like 200 more persons to work with the upgrading, and each would focus on 1 single car, they could achieve insane amount of premium cars within a year. But unlike the FM series, PD actually tests most of the cars out by themselves, while the another company uses Data gathered by 3rd party members. Big difference.

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But unlike the FM series, PD actually tests most of the cars out by themselves, while the another company uses Data gathered by 3rd party members. Big difference.



PD does not test all cars. I am not aware of how many cars they ever tested themselves, but it is bound to be tiny, if any at all.

 

Data is brought into GT by inputting numbers based on a detailed engineer's questionaire of over 80 questions. It takes about a day for the designer / engineer to fill in all of that info.

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Well not maybe all the cars, but seen working with alot of cars, like in Making Of Gran Turismo 4 videos, PD's crew driving many, many cars in real life. If that is not testing, then what is.

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There is a difference between just driving them and getting the figures to input into GT.

It is a fallacy to believe that they drive a majority of cars in GT.

 

Of all of the car owners that I have dealt with (let's see, now, that's at least six), none of their cars were driven by the PD data crew. In fact, the day the TransCammer was done, it was raining and it was definitely not driven in the wet.

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I guess the standard cars will be forever with future Gran Turismo games. As it's so time consuming to model the premium cars and all the time new cars are introduced & the statement that PD will focus on new cars, there just may not be the time to convert all the Standard cars to Premium.

Still it looks they may convert at least some of them, like they did with VW Beetle.

 

We got interior views for Standard cars, I wonder if they could do even some kind of basic interior for them in GT6? This thought came to my mind as a while ago drove some Standard cars in 2-player mode and during the play or replay mode there was one interior view which had "crude" top of the dash & parcel shelf visible in the Standard cars. This is not viewable in 1-player mode, don't know why it shows up in 2-player mode, at least before the latest update.

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