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Abyssmire3
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What the PMCs will be like in the full game:

I heard in one of the threads that SVER have about 3x as many players as the rest of the PMCs. This means:

 

SVER will win the war by a MASSIVE amount.

 

The other PMCs will be defend to SVER a majority of the time

 

Players who joined SVER to be part of a minority will be massively disapointed

 

SVER will rarely lose with superior maps, better players ( for the moment) and a majority of players

 

Raven will have very, very few players. By telling everyone that Raven had all the crap players, people have moved to SVER, supposedly the superior PMC, bringing all the noobs with them.

 

Players who joined SVER to be part of a minority or to be away from noobs will join Raven as it's now in the same situation as SVER were in the beta.

 

So now there's four options:

 

Raven will become overpopulated again, and there'll be an endless cycle :smileytongue:

Raven will become overpopulated, people will move to valor, etc...

Raven and SVER will balance out

SVER will stay overpopulated

 

If there's a stat reset, the first two are most likely. Otherwise, the bottom two.

 

Well, that's just my theory, but it may well happen, and if it does, it will become a massive flaw of this game.

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Re: What the PMCs will be like in the full game:

Interesting view, havent really seen it like that up to now. Looking forward to seeing how it pans out.

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Re: What the PMCs will be like in the full game:

Yeah, it will be pretty crap if everyone joins SVER. We need more Raven players.
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Re: What the PMCs will be like in the full game:

Personally, I don't understand the logic about the faction that has the most players, will win more often or whatever. I've seen and heard alot of people claiming that.

I'm not saying the imbalance in the total players is cool, but look at it this way;

 

There's always going to be the limit on how many players are on what team in the games, so it's not like Valor/Raven will be outnumbered.

It's possible that in some matches one faction may fall just short of the max players, but that could go either way, it all really just depends on who's already in a game and the traffic, etc.

 

Also, just because S.V.E.R has more players, does not mean they'll have all the best players. Players of varying skill will likely be spread out relatively evenly. Assuming that there hasn't been a message posted saying 'All newbies join Valor, while all the pros join S.V.E.R, K?'

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Re: What the PMCs will be like in the full game:

The logic that the most players will win the most games is extremely simple..

More Games = More Wins. If it was about Ratio, SVER would've one the Beta. But Raven won because it had more players. It's not gonna be completely accurate, but if SVER is known as the 'faction that has good characters' (Most of the good players on this forum are goin there, there is not an equal balance of skilled players) And according to this forum, and players of the Beta, (who will probably know who's got the best players) is very similar to that message. Things like this are deeper than just "what players are in a single match". Also there will be far more organised groups on SVER in the full game than the other PMCs.



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Re: What the PMCs will be like in the full game:

Yeah, I follow what you mean.

 

Seems a bit lame that all the apparently good players are joining S.V.E.R. Then again, is that opinion based only on the general userbase of this forum, or multiple other forums aswell?

 

 

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Re: What the PMCs will be like in the full game:

Just this one as far as I know, but I'm pretty sure it branches out everywhere. And it's not just forums, everyone that played the Beta can probably tell how good SVER are, especially with their maps.
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Re: What the PMCs will be like in the full game:


Abyssmire3 wrote:
The logic that the most players will win the most games is extremely simple..

More Games = More Wins. If it was about Ratio, SVER would've one the Beta. But Raven won because it had more players.

 

I don't know where you get your facts from.

 

S.V.E.R won Sabotage and Valor won Domination in the beta. Raven was second on both occassions.

 

Valor had 38.7%, Raven had 37.2% and S.V.E.R had 24.1% of the players.

 

Please do your research.

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Re: What the PMCs will be like in the full game:

"More Games = More Wins"

- Abyssmire3

 

Hello,

 

The largest faction may not necessarily win. As is the quote;

 

"There are three kinds of lies;  lies, damned lies, and statistics"

 

So aslong as the idiots who are in charge of marketing the game are not the same ones who are involved in the stats everything should be ok.... for example;

 

If it the war is conducted on a percentage based mechanism as opposed to number of wins then the competition should be even between different strenght PMC's e.g;

 

SVER: players 200,000  played 10,000 games  -  won 5,000  - score = 50%

Raven: players 30,000  played  2,000 games  -  won 1,600  -  score = 80%

Valor: players 100,000  played  5,000 games  -  won 1,800  -  score = 36%

 

In the above Raven won with the least players. This is how the stats should be done - I think???

anything else just wouldnt be fair.

 

Gerg

 

 

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Re: What the PMCs will be like in the full game:

I agree with you, that's how it should be done. I'm not certain how it IS, however, but I have no idea how SVER could've lost , unless it had something to do with players. SVER have the superior players and maps, while Raven has the worst maps. If it was completely skill based, SVER would be slightly on top (at least) Considering maps and skill, SVER would be at at least 40-50%. If you have a better reason as to how SVER lost, I'm happy to accept it. Though I'm certain that SVER have the better players, and it's pretty much fact that SVER have the best maps on all modes.
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