on 01-06-2010 12:22 PM - last edited on 03-06-2010 02:02 PM by Mohawktown
There is no reason to add store items that cost real money. We all paid $65 for this game and the gaming community is getting absolutely fed up with never getting the entire game anymore. What happened to the days when you bought a finished product. Any ad ons should be free and require no playstation store* activity. Within a week of the games release I saw things in the store that I wanted but am not willing to spend $1 per item which will add up very quickly. Lets say you release even just 40 items in the next 2 months. To fully enjoy MNR I would have spent over $100 on a video game. Stop being greedy!
01-06-2010 12:53 PM - edited 01-06-2010 12:57 PM
That's the nature of DLC.
If anything, you are the greedy one asking for everything to be free, if you can't enjoy the amount of content that is already on the disc to begin with, well that says a lot more about you tha it does anything else.
And, as already has been said, they aren't forcing you to buy it, hence why they are optional extras.
Not sure if you are aware of how the DLC works, but you only need to buy the DLC if you wish to use the items in your own creations. You can still race on tracks, race in Karts and use Mods that have DLC used in them whether you have the DLC or not.
01-06-2010 01:03 PM - edited 01-06-2010 01:13 PM
Are you seriously saying that ModNation is "incomplete"? Try to imagine that you never saw this DLC - would you be looking at your toolset thinking, 'Aww, there's not very much here ' ? The amount of stuff on the disc is ENORMOUS - the DLC, just like with LBP, are just optional additional items for the really hardcore creators. The question you need to ask yourself is "is what I got on the disc worth $65?" If 'yes' then you have nothing to complain about. If 'no' then you should take the game back anyway, regardless of whether they release DLC or not.
There are lots of games that do DLC badly, but so far ModNation is not one of them.
01-06-2010 07:10 PM - edited 01-06-2010 07:12 PM
OP, that is a really dumb way of thinking. "I already paid the price to make this game, now I demand you give me even more content than what I paid for (a lot), which you have worked on putting man hours and having to pay salaries for everyone, absolutely free!"
Hell, I don't even care if the items are already on the disc but locked (such as it seemed with the afro man and van) because the content without the afro man and van was good enough to make anything in the first place! Having an afro pick is just icing on the cake, and it cost like... a dollar. Even if you buy both things at $1.49, every week for a year (assuming they actually release DLC every week), you will have paid about $77 in a year.
I used to download all the songs from Rock Band every week. I missed about six months worth and in order to catch up, had to spend over $300 because most songs are $1.99 (more than the kart+mod in ModNation's DLC), a few are 99 cents (the price of kart or mod) and each week they release about 9.
I don't want to hear complaints about something that adds up to maybe the price of two games in a year.
on 01-06-2010 07:13 PM
01-06-2010 07:45 PM - edited 01-06-2010 07:55 PM
The way I see it is... all content on the disc should be free, and content created before the game's release should be on the disc. Anything created after the game has been finished and released should cost money and I'll happily pay for it.
Oh and the boycott isn't gonna work.
So you agree with the OP? United Front has stated on different occassions when asked about DLC (see the Kotaku podcast from last week), that they have been working on DLC for ModNation for a very long time now. To use your logic, we shouldn't have to pay for it since it was being developed long before the release of the game and should be be on the disc in the first place.
The sad fact is, companies now budget DLC into the initial development cycle of a game, so they spend time on developing after-the-fact material that will be charged for, instead of making the game with more content on the original disk.
The reason why Sony is so smart with this whole "Play, Create, Share" campaign of games is because it is a money-cow in regards to DLC. They can make limitless costumes, karts, mods, stickers, etc. etc. and people will pay money for them. It is a slick business model.
People don't mind getting ripped-off most of the time because they think the DLC is "extra" stuff that the company was generous enough to make for us, when in reality resources that could have been put towards making an even better original product has been diverted to making the original product more profitable after its initial release. People don't think they are getting ripped off and they thank the company for doing so.
One could argue, "but they couldn't fit everything onto the disc, so they had to release it as DLC." This is a fallacious argument, especially for the PS3 and its massive Blu-ray format -- just look at Metal Gear Solid 4, which is basically an extremely large computer animated movie, or FFXIII, and it fit all on one disc. They could have put a ton more karts, mods, maps, etc. etc., in the game initially if they wanted to, but they just want more money.
Granted, you don't have to pay for this stuff. However, they are counting that if people like the game they won't mind spending a few bucks on a mod here and there, which really adds up in the end.
Companies are here to separate us from our money and they know what people will pay for. What was once free is no longer so. Those who say they aren't being greedy are naive and are probably the same people who spent $15 on 5 new maps for Modern Warfare 2.
Anyway, just don't spend the money on these things.
on 01-06-2010 08:53 PM
Maybe its ok to offer DLC right after release and the cost of ownership is higher. That is completely up to the end user,BUT we should have gotten a game with few online problems for $60.00!
on 01-06-2010 10:13 PM
I Don't have a problem with paying for download content but 1 ITEM for a buck does seem a little steep. Like the OP mentioned if they release 40 items thats over 100 bucks for a game , Not cool UFG. I Refuse to purchase anything with their current pricing plan. I Could see paying a buck for a set of items maybe 5-10 or so but a dollar each, NO ON PRINCIPAL ALONE.
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