20-04-2012 04:43 PM - edited 20-04-2012 04:46 PM
Oh dear, it looks like we have a phantom 1*-er in our midsts. Looking at the "top rated" creations 10 minutes ago on the offcial MNR site (click at the top of the page) I see just two tracks that have a 4.5 overall rating. Incredibly, 10 minutes later, those two tracks have dissapeared down to further pages, there are now NO 4.5* tracks left, those two tracks have been downrated without any further plays or downloads.
Now, I see what is going on here. Boosters have worked out how to get their tracks downloaded. What they do is vote everything challenging them 1*. Then, they post up a series of POS auto-populated tracks, do quick "D4D 5* my crap" in the modspot et voila, their tracks are on page one, right at the top of top rated. The savvy amongst them have even realised taking an interesting thumbnail image, as opposed to to a default birds eye view, can help to garner more downloads from unsuspecting suckers.
I could name names of people I KNOW are doing this (hint, one of them had TWO karts on the podium recently, one of which was a 'glitch') but I simply implore the community as a whole to come together and stamp this blatant cheating out, all together. So, the solution is really rather simple. If you see tracks that are blatant D4D fodder (basically, anything with 5 or 4.5 overall that has had LESS than 4 plays) vote it 1*. Why? Because you have to have at least 5 ratings before the overall is calculated and if a track has less than 4 plays then it is almost guaranteed that those ratings are either via D4D ritual or multiple account creation. If you click the information of that particular track you can see how many votes it's gotten and very often it's in double figures, as these cheaters are somewhat smart and know that to prolong their high average they need lots of phantom 5*'s to off-set the obvious lower scores they'll eventually receive, thus meaning that they remain on top for just a little longer.
I got annoyed enough about the blatant cheating going on in the mod/kart side of things but now it's affecting tracks as well? Let's just say I'm mad, mad as hell!
on 20-04-2012 09:59 PM
We should make a thread called ''atheistsw's complaint desk''.
It's no use, it's no use, it's no use TAKE THIS! (to the tune of Saria)
It's Mm and UFG's fault for being stupid enough to put in create related trophies. This doesn't happen on PC UGC based games because achievements aren't as important.
I could go on for a few pages about how achievements / trophies are ruining video games.
on 20-04-2012 11:45 PM
Atheist, I'm going to be honest here.
Before you made that other rant thread about boosting, it wasn't nearly as bad. Only about 40 downloads to get tops. They actually gave a challenge most days
It got worse after your thread with very minimal mods/recolored karts that were made on the same day get 60+ downloads.
Then you make this thread.
And the 1*ing got worse.
Can't you see what you're doing? When whoever does this sees that this gets you all riled up, they'll only do it more.
So as I said in another one of my posts:
Take the straight shot out of your tailpipe, shut up, race and create. Enjoy the game with your friends and ignore the cheaters, boosters, and haters.
Most importantly, DO NOT SPREAD THE HATE!
on 21-04-2012 12:16 AM
I was going to post a rant about this, but you beat me to it ath. What a surprise.
Anyway, I got up this morning, my track had no new races, but it managed to get 5 extra votes. It went from being first page of top rated ( with 13 votes) to being just a 4* with 18 votes. Other tracks with more ratings faired a little better. But what annoyed the hell out of me was that, other than UFG Skate by Punishthem, (which became 4.5* after the boosters came through, I hosted it last night, awesome track...) every damn track up there with 4.5* looks pretty terrible (except for maybe the one by crumble ball, still doesn't look 4.5* to me though).
So now road to ruin by briandalebaxley, 14 days in may. by Jefferzone are back on page 3 and 4 (on the computer, that's like pages 7 and 9 on PS3), not to mention so many others that were effected. And now boosted crap is getting heaps of downloads by the people who don't know better.
No Markxx, we're not just ignoring this. We want to spread hate against these boosters. These people are ruining the flow of the game and they deserve to be punished. If people know what is happening, we can combine and ban these people from the game (seeing as that's all the moderators seem to notice).
People have been sick and tired of boosting for a long time, it's getting worse, we are the only people who can do something about it. So spread the hate, spread the word that these people are cheating and ruining the game, and maybe we can get them banned.
Either that or this game becomes a boosting war. Doesn't sound like a great future for a game... Hmm, I declare a boosting war... has I nice ring to it...
SPREAD THE HATE!!!!
And yes ponce, there is a reason to be upset!
21-04-2012 12:28 AM - edited 21-04-2012 12:38 AM
My pepsi guy mod has only 3½ stars. Obviously some jealous boosters have voted it down.
Seriously though. If someone sees a 5* creation that they think deserves 3*, odds are they will vote it 2* or 1* to compensate. It's a stupid manner which I personally avoid but it just happens, that's how noobs think. It's why creations do not stay at 5*.
As for ath's rant... Once again, I really don't see the point. There has been boosting and (related) 5*-voting garbage creations since day 1 and it comes with this type of game, you should not take it so personally. For one I just saw a guys profile who had just published randomized mods with 70-ish DLs AND votes and a 4,5-5* rating. Ratings simply are worthless in any UGC game because most players will vote without proper judgement anyway. Blame the system, not the community.
*moonwalks out of thread*
on 21-04-2012 12:52 AM
Riko-Keita-Ako wrote something that abc123Y agrees with:
One Word, Jealousy, Jealousy, Jealousy. Thats human nature for ya.
on 21-04-2012 01:00 AM
One Word, Jealousy, Jealousy, Jealousy. Thats human nature for ya.
Amen to that, but it's not just jealousy. It is also hate, anger, and the will to power. People take this game way too seriously.
And atheist, if you just have to make a rant thread, make one on all about your 'friends' that absolutely hate everyone who does anything against their 'unwritten rules.'
That's the real problem here.
I wonder what happened to the age of gamers who played games because they were fun?
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