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23 Feb 2012
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Ok so I have yet to find a forum online that has enough information to sustain this extremely critical topic. So here in this thread, I will explain what remote play is according to all the different websties and Sony interviews and ask important questions that hopefully you guys can answer for me.

 

Remote Play: A function on the Vita that allows it to basically stream your PS3 straight to the PS Vita via Wi-Fi/3G connection. Technically speaking, this will allow you to access your PS3's XMB menu along with it's applications like Music, Videos, Games, and Friends List.

 

HOWEVER! Video reviews of the vita reveal that remote play actually fails at doing most of what it promises! Owners of the VIta (Before official US release) claim and showed proof that their PS3 games would NOT play on their vita via remote play. However, trailers for the vita that demonstrate crossplay and remote play CLEARLY show killzone 3 being paused on the PS3, and resumed on the Vita. People online have confirmed that Killzone 3 is NOT working with the Vita. In addition to these PS3 titles that won't work, PS1 titles, PS2 titles, and even PSN Indie games like Super Stardust HD also failed to work. According to people online, this is due to one of two things:

 

1) Sony has yet to release the firmware update for either the vita or the ps3 that allows remote play to function as intended

 

2) The games themselves need the developers to patch them and allow the game to be streamed to a vita via remote play

 

If #1 is the reason, then ok. As long as it isn't some fake promise like you made before PS3 came out about crossgame chat.

If #2 is the reason, well... then we most likely won't see our favorite PS3 games ever on our PS Vita. Developers will most likely opt out of supporting remote play in order to sell new, possibly crappier Vita versions of games. For example, Little Big Planet 2 would be a GREAT game to be able to play via remote play. Being able to pick it up and play some community levels while your on the bus would make the vita totally worth it. In fact, the Vita was even demonstrated to play LittleBigPlanet 2 in a crossplay demonstration done by head of playstation at a tech demo last year along with killzone 3. However, Media Molecule is also releasing their own LittleBigPlanet Vita game... perhaps they realized that by making LBP2 available on a vita via remote play, nobody would bother buying the Vita-only game as it would essentially be the same game just with touch screen controls.

 

This concept is pretty disturbing. Producers of games can essentially make this absolutely amazing function of the vita completely useless just so they can boost their profits and make some extra cash by selling us essentially the same game over again. I personally would rather spend $15 on a DLC allowing the vita crossplay to function for a game than have to spend $50 on a shorter, smaller scale PS Vita game.

 

if anybody has anything to say about this, please speak up. If i'm wrong at all about anything please let me know and provide a legit source because I don't wanna be disappointed by people saying "EVERY GAME WILL WORK THROUGH REMOTE PLAY" beause...clearly that is NOT the case....yet.  

 

Also, please report ANY games that you have tried through remote play and that have worked correctly. We need a list of games that work with remote play to figure out this issue.

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ps3 games were never planned to work with RP

just like RP with the psp

u can access music , videos and photos

gamewise some psp's , minis and other select games will work but not ps3 games

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As you noticed in my other thread, there is sufficient evidence showing that Vita developers WERE intending on having Remote Play play PS3 games. Ps3 games WERE planned to work with RP. It is not available at this time though. Sony either doesn't have it ready, or is waiting till a good time to release it to boost sales.

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well if sony are withholding it until its fully functional then i can understand

no point releasing it if it wont work as intended

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I imagine they will want to wait until they have shifted a fair few vita games first , the kz3 remote play demo is what pursuaded me into getting a vita..
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thats such BS... all the adds for psvita.. have it playing ps3 games via RP out of your house anywere its the "gamechanger" pause your game on your ps3and take it on your way to work ect.. if it cant do that then isnt that false advertising i bought one 3days after it came out i find it an amazing peice of tech but if it could do that it would deffenitly be a "gamechanger"

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manuals.playstation.net/document/en/psvita/remoteplay/viainternet.html
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McNeilio wrote:
ps3 games were never planned to work with RP

just like RP with the psp

u can access music , videos and photos

gamewise some psp's , minis and other select games will work but not ps3 games
This :)
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richard4481 wrote:

McNeilio wrote:
ps3 games were never planned to work with RP

just like RP with the psp

u can access music , videos and photos

gamewise some psp's , minis and other select games will work but not ps3 games
This :)


Lego Batman PS3 works

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Lair works, and my ps1 games work, none of my psn games will work, also had problems with movies they would download to vita but would not play
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Sony had better come forward and say what the hell is going on. I bought the vita just for this feature. As of now the vita is nothing more than a slightly upgraded psp.

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There is no reason why remote play shouldnt support ALL PS3 games. All that is happening is a video feed being sent via wifi to the vita.  You would expect a bunch of games to be unplayable due to the missing buttons on the Vita, but support for popular games could be patched if a developer wished. I would at least like the ability to try remote play on my PS3 collection, it wouldnt take long to create a list of games what work vs those that dont.

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Sony said we would have this function but they said we were going to be able to use the psp for a rear view mirror while playing a racing game, but after the launch of psp they never even talked about it anymore. It's the same thing with the vita.. That really makes me mad because I wanted these features. Sony lies too much
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 According to people online, this is due to one of two things:

 

1) Sony has yet to release the firmware update for either the vita or the ps3 that allows remote play to function as intended

 

2) The games themselves need the developers to patch them and allow the game to be streamed to a vita via remote play

 

If #1 is the reason, then ok. As long as it isn't some fake promise like you made before PS3 came out about crossgame chat.

If #2 is the reason, well... then we most likely won't see our favorite PS3 games ever on our PS Vita.

 

number 2 is the reason. every game or application has a parm.sfo file. it contain information like game's title, software version, and if remote play compatible or not.

peoples were able to modify this param.sfo within their ps3... not officially

 

to make it an official thing someone, sony or either game developers, need to update their param.sfo

change a 0 to a 1, it will be something about 64kb or even less to download...

and then rmeote play will work...

EVERY game is already virtually 100% compatible with ps vita, it also has virtual R2 L2 R3 L3 buttons and sixaxis, psp was missing them... if you don't believe me search on youtube...

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Yes SONY I am very dissapointed in how you keep your customers in the loop.  I am a heavy Sony supporter have been for awhile, love some of your products but love the PS3 and the PSN network.  However after being a pre ordering the Vita and finding out then that remote play was not functioning and not being able to find any official word from Sony advising of the situation.  Here are two links that clearly state that Vita will be remote play and Kill Zone 3 was one of the games,

 

http://psp.ign.com/articles/121/1213821p1.html

 

http://psp.ign.com/articles/119/1194597p1.html

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I would like to add some info.

 

Most, if not all PixelJunk PS3 games works with Remote Play.

 

Every PS1 games (I have tested) works with Remote Play including big ones like Final Fantasy 7.

 

Vidzone works with Remote Play so you can stream millions of streaming videos.

 

The Killzone 3 demo was only a tech-demo to showcase that it could be done, if they wanted to implement that feature in the future.

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I have seen on Youtube videos of some people playing ps3 games on their ps vita such as Dead Space 2, AC brotherhood, Mirror's Edge, Infamous 2 & other ps3 games, but a lot of people in the comment section are telling that those people are playing those games from a jailbroken ps3 system. I'm not sure if that is true because I have tried to play most of those games in my ps vita and it doesn't let me play them and my ps3 is not jailbroken. I'm not so sure if any of these is true but we ps vita owner's would like to play some of our favorite ps3 games on the go just like in the ps vita commercials. 

If some of you know how to play some of the ps3 games on the ps vita please tell.!

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the comments are correct


the videos are from jailbroken ps3's or vita's
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I would be happy if they allowed it as unsupported.

I can imagine fallout 3 and the like working but being unplayable due to unreadable small font in some texts.

Could be why they dont turn it on cause i am sure they could just get it working . its just a thin client connection to the vita. sending screen and sound over web and processing game on the ps3.

All games should work but if they allow it offically then people will moan that they cant read the text or certain games dont work due to missing buttons or small text.

 

I would like them to allow it and let me see what i can and cant play to a standard i am happy with.

I would like to play saints row, i may not be able to follow missions but i can go on killing rampages while i am work lol.

 

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This something sony hope for not promised it is a tech show after all not a you going to get show.

 

Yes jail broken consoles can do it.

We don't know if these jail broken consoles will suffer any adversed problems to hardware/software (not worth the risk IMO)

 

 

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Sony are stabbing their loyal family customers in the back - We have 3 PS3s and 3 PSPs all on the same IP address and all registered with Sony. Why can't we use them at the same time anymore?
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call to sony entertainment department and tell this problem to them!

 

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