PS Vita: General Discussion

[Chanandler]

Alright I am getting this message about not being able to earn achievements in Mod Nation, I know why as I have had a look around the web and seen some mentions about only being able to earn achievements on the Vita that the game was originally first run on unless you delete all the data associated with the game and then run it again on the second Vita.

My point is that I have just spent £280 on a 3G Vita, £230 on a WiFi Vita for my son and bought 4 physical games (all different) and a number of games and add-ons from the store for each of our PSN accounts and I was kind of expecting to be able to just play the physical games on either Vita and earn achievements on either Vita.

I understand the whole 'network pass' thing with second hand games etc but this is not the same. I don't want to play online with anyone, we both just want to play the game and earn the achievements offline and in our own time. Why the hell has this been implemented? Have I not spent enough already, why can't I just play the bloody game without any penalties after my son has finished playing his session????

So I have had to delete all my progress so that he can earn the achievements and then I guess when he is finished with the game I will have to delete all his progress so I can have a go!

Perhaps someone can explain the reasons behind this before I take the whole lot back for a refund as there is no way I'm going to start buying 2 of every game just so that we can both earn achievements at the same time!

[Yaster]

This is taken from the Vita user manual:

http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/psvita/game/game_card.html

Follow these steps:

You can only earn trophies on the PS Vita system on which you first start a game. If you play the game on another PS Vita system, you will not be able to earn trophies. If you sign up for PlayStation®Network, you can earn trophies on the other PS Vita system.

With the PS Vita card inserted in the PS Vita system that you first used to start the game, sign up for PlayStation®Network, and then start the game. Next, insert the PS Vita card into the other PS Vita system on which you want to play the game, and then sign up for PlayStation®Network using the same account. You are recognized as the same player who first started the game, and then you will be able to earn trophies.

[Yaster]

It's a little like the PS3.  The idfference on PS3 is that you have multiple accounts.

Player 1 buys and starts play a game, makes a little progress and earns a couple of trophies.

Player 2 wants a shot but doesnt want to start from the beginning, it IS possible to copy a lot of saves around the different profiles on the PS3 but in a lot of cases trophies will become deactivated for Player 2.

The answer is for Player 2 to start from scratch.

The big thing to remember here is that for Vita game cards, the save game becomes one with the game card.

[Pin-Pin-Ire]

If I wanted to delete game data from my Vita does that mean I will lose my trophies? Is it not like the PS3 where your trophies are saved forever on the PSN servers?

[Yaster]

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Pin-Pin-Ire wrote:
If I wanted to delete game data from my Vita does that mean I will lose my trophies? Is it not like the PS3 where your trophies are saved forever on the PSN servers?

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Nah your trophies are all safe once you've syncronised them.  Not sure if unsynced trophies vanish if you delete your data but it's always best to be safe than sorry.

[Pin-Pin-Ire]

Thanks Yaster

[Chanandler]

Both Vita's already have their own PSN accounts signed into them. It won't let me create a new one on either and why would I want to? I have my Vita and he has his, we are already using our own PSN accounts that we have been using for a while.

So the only way to do it is to sign into both Vita's with one account? Great!

This is fu*@&ng ridiculous. Why does everything with this bloody company have to be such hard work? I can't even register my Vita with Vodafone as that keeps crapping out during the registration process so no free copy of Wipeout for me either.

Sony needs to pull it's head out of it's a$$ and look at how other companies deal with DRM. Apple have it the right way round, I buy a game and can play it on any iDevice I own that is logged into the AppStore with the same store account, even if our Gamecenter accounts are different! Even Nintendo, in most cases, allow mutliple saves on a game cart!

This is just greed, nothing more. Right, rant over. I love the Vita, it's a great bit of gaming tech and a pleasure to use. If this could be sorted out (and a few other little niggles that tonnes of others have brought up here) then it should do well and not bomb out like it has in Japan since launch.

Sort it out Sony!

[Chanandler]

We don't want to copy game saves between Vita's, we just both want to play the same game at different times and earn our own achievements. And this is nothing like the PS3, me and my Son both have a PS3 and if I play Uncharted on mine I can earn achievements fine, I give him the disk and he starts playing (under his PSN account of course) and he can earn achievements. No drama there!

[NOZonline]

But it is like a PS3, all what you described is all done on the same system were as what you want is to have the same Account tyed game in another Vita!!!
Unless the firmwear gets patched to allow an extra account on the same memory card then what you want will not happen!

[Chanandler]

No, I have a PS3 and a Vita and my Son has a PS3 and a Vita. Mine are logged in with my PSN account and his are logged in with his PSN account.

I am not talking about downloaded titles, I am talking about physical shop bought games. I DONT want to transfer game saves or use the same PSN account on different devices. We both want to keep our PS3's and Vita's seperate!

Have any of you actually bought two Vita's and tried this out or borrowed a game from a friend with a Vita that they have played first?

Also what happens in this scenario: I buy a game and play it, complete it half way and then decide to trade that game in or give it / sell it. A few months down the road I decide to have another go at it because I see the game cheap up on Amazon or somewhere and buy it again. Will I be able to pick up where I left off or will the game I have bought want to start again from the start as it will be missing whatever was copied to the original card?