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22 Mar 2012
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Treasures of Montezuma Blitz. Free on the Vita.

" You have used up your 5 lives, you can wait for your lives to recharge or you can purchase one for 79p " !!

 

No trophies either.  :No-no:

 


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Cardiff1 wrote:

People often tend to post in forums if they have a complaint or strongly disagree.

So a handful of people disagreeing with me compared to the 175 views so far is I believe a clear indicator of general opinion.


 

It is a clear indicator of general opinion - no one cares enough to take 30 secs to post agreeing with you lol.

 

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Cardiff1 wrote:

People often tend to post in forums if they have a complaint or strongly disagree.

So a handful of people disagreeing with me compared to the 175 views so far is I believe a clear indicator of general opinion.


 

 

Denial - Not just a river in Egypt

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I like the game, I just think the implementation sucks.

 

Also, I looked through help - it tells you nothing of lives or it costing gems to use bonuses.

 

Yes there is a picture of gems and a value at the bottom of the bonus, but at no point does it explain this is how much it costs to use it in your game.  This is doubly confusing how it says 0 until you actually buy the bonus and then it changes to 100 (presumably goes up as you upgrade the bonus).

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Free? IS this a joke? I checked on my PSVITA. Still says it cost's.

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It's not a game. It's an app that accidentally ended up in the game section of the store & was accidentally listed as free & they accidentally neglected to mention any transactions until I accidentally used up my 5 lives.

This kind of pay to play model was inevitable but the clandestine way in which it has been implemented is at best a poor decision.

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Give it a rest. It IS a game, in the same way they are all games on handheld devices.

More than likely says something in the description too - and even if it doesn't, who cares? You've paid nothing. Lost nothing.

Stop whining like a little girl. Christ, my 9 month old daughter, who is teething, whines less than some of you.
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If my Vita tells me that an app & not a game has been installed to my home screen then it's an app.

 

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as long as you have the option to waste your time with it in free basis, it is a free game, technically, it cant be even considered a demo either...
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It's a disappointing move by Sony, but - to me - it's more tut tut than hang your heads in shame!

 

Shows a willingness to experiment with different payment models that might produce some alternatives, though. Advertising-sponsored free games next?

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Im ranked 58 global on this lol . its free fun

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Scarzy wrote:

Im ranked 58 global on this lol . its free fun



What did you have to go and poop on my score like that for. :xCry:

 

Now I understand how everything works, I'm fine with the game.  It just annoys me when games have monetary options that can skew the online leaderboards.

 

You could be pretty mediocre in this game and score highly just by spending a ton of money on bonuses.  So you never know if people are near the top of the leaderboard legitimately or by purchasing their way to the top, which kinda spoils the game.  Its why I only ever take my friends leaderboard seriously as I trust them not to cheat.

 

I suppose anyone who spends insane amounts of time playing a game will also have an advantage over people who have less time to spare, but in that case at least they earned it.

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I dont spend money on it so i can see how people get high scores , Multipliers thats all im saying .

Plus with the lives thing going on you cant sit there grinding away. I have a quick go in between games.

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That's my point though, anyone willing to throw money at this game CAN grind away by buying lots of gems and constantly refilling their lives. You are not telling me someone already managed to get 1090100 points without buying a ton of lives to keep going.

 

I suppose its a good thing though really as that person is effectively paying for the games development for those of us who aren't paying.  If it means we get more free games released, its not really a bad thing as long as they are fun without having to spend a lot of money, which this game is.

 

My complaints about this game were more down to not explaining how the lives and gems work which made the game seem more crippled than it really is.  Now I know how it works, I'm fine with it.  In the time its taken me to write this forum post, I already recharged three lives.

 

I have no problem with this business model, in fact I have sunk many hours into Coin Dozer on my phone which works on exactly the same principle.

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^^ Still waiting for you to top my score

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Actually, the more I play this, the less I like its payments model. If this were on a phone, it might just work.

 

But my Vita is a dedicated games console. When I play games, I usually make time and space to play them continuously for half an hour or an hour or whatever. I don't want to see more of this model of paying for a game.

 

Specifically, after I've had my free five minutes, I don't want to pay 79p for another five minutes. That's £8 an hour (assuming I get one free game per five minutes). The publishers can go and jump. If only there were a payment option, say £5 for unlimited lives...

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I'm torn about it to be honest, as I think I would quickly get bored of the game if I could just play it unlimited.  In fact I KNOW I would because I have Bejeweled on my phone, I think I even have it on Xbox and I never go on it.

 

By forcing me to play it for 5 minutes at a time it makes it all that more challenging because I'm trying much harder to make the most of the time I have and it makes me more determined when I have just done really badly in that 5 minutes.  Plus it makes Ridge Racer a little more bearable as I can do a single race then pop back to this game. (damn you lack of career mode, somehow I missed this particular omission or I wouldn't have bought it)

 

Its almost like old fashioned games where if you ran out of lives you had to start again, but without the annoying aspect of starting again - if you know what I mean.

 

Its funny as I have read a lot of people moaning that modern games are too easy with their unlimited continues, yet this game has added an extra difficulty layer by doing this and everyone is upset about it?

 

So yeah, I'm really not sure.  I do think this sort of game is somewhat unique in that the payment model doesn't ruin it though.  There are plenty of examples on Google Play where it just puts you off playing the game though, eg Bug Village.  So it would be frustrating if they tried to shoehorn this payment model onto games where its not suited.

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AlexAtkinUK wrote:
yet this game has added an extra difficulty layer by doing this and everyone is upset about it?

 It's not really difficulty. It's just impatience. I don't want a game that withholds gameplay from me for 83% of the time unless I'm willing to pay £8 an hour. On a dedicated games console that is incapable of running two games concurrently, I think it's a mistake.

 

Though you have a point about it probably growing boring quickly if you could just play on it all day. :)

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That's true, if you play games like this on Android at least you can have several open at the same time.  Although they do tend to suspend so they are actually a lot like the Vita, where the game appears open (LiveArea) but in fact launches again when you switch to it.

 

I do agree it sucks they did not include trophies though, its a very odd decision.

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Cardiff1 wrote:

If my Vita tells me that an app & not a game has been installed to my home screen then it's an app.

 



Would you like a tissue to wipe those tears away?

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The game is basically a rip off of Bejeweled. 

On facebook you only get to play that once in 24 hours, not 5 times. 

 

This game is FREE! You can buy content but you dont HAVE TO. 

DUST 514 is due out soon and that is also a FREE game but they will make their money back by selling items on the game..

 

The best things in life are free.

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I dont get it why you are whining? Sony gave you something for free. Better be thankfull. Dont like it, dont play it. Its free and that's good enough for a free game.

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