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Sony's PlayStation 3 Home service – which has been constantly beset with delays since launch – is going to be 'region-locked' according to a Sony rep at E3.

While users will be able to visit any of their online friend's private apartment areas in Home, all the public zones in the virtual world are to be restricted by the geographical area you live 'IRL' (in real life).

PS3 Fanboy reports: "We were given a pretty in-depth walkthrough of the current state of Home, including a couple of game spaces (images of those later), during which we asked the bloke as many questions as we could think of.

"Top of our list? Making sure that we would be able to meet up with our friends all across the planet in the various public spaces. Unfortunately, this is not the case. Home's public spaces are going to be region-specific."

Another blow for the PS3

It's another blow to PlayStation fans who were hoping that the service would be finally rolled out this year, which is also looking increasingly unlikely.

The report continues: "If you want to meet up with your pals from abroad, then you'll be able to invite them into your apartment, but warping into the game space to bowl or play chess is not possible.

"This is allegedly to make sure that each region receives an 'experience most suited to their tastes' as well as, no doubt, to keep advertisers happy."

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The box said requires Windows XP or better.....


So I bought a Mac! :P


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From what i can tell ,HOME isnt goin to as intergrated as we all 1st thought. Sure itll have invites and chat features etc etc,but it looks like the DEVS will have to put in the hard work for there games to support it. Motorstorm proves this point.

Sad thing if it is i was hoping to meet some people form around the world oh well 

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kingchaz wrote:
From what i can tell ,HOME isnt goin to as intergrated as we all 1st thought. Sure itll have invites and chat features etc etc,but it looks like the DEVS will have to put in the hard work for there games to support it. Motorstorm proves this point.

Sad thing if it is i was hoping to meet some people form around the world oh well 




me too and if i can't then home is a bit of a dissapointment tbh.
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kingchaz wrote:
From what i can tell ,HOME isnt goin to as intergrated as we all 1st thought. Sure itll have invites and chat features etc etc,but it looks like the DEVS will have to put in the hard work for there games to support it. Motorstorm proves this point.

Sad thing if it is i was hoping to meet some people form around the world oh well 




me too and if i can't then home is a bit of a dissapointment tbh.

Suppose we shall have to wait and see what comes of it

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kingchaz wrote:
From what i can tell ,HOME isnt goin to as intergrated as we all 1st thought. Sure itll have invites and chat features etc etc,but it looks like the DEVS will have to put in the hard work for there games to support it. Motorstorm proves this point.

Sad thing if it is i was hoping to meet some people form around the world oh well 


 

Yeah me too ,i still cant wait for it to try tho.
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Coffee_n_Donuts wrote:

Home has to be region locked, and if you think about it, it's easy to see why. We all know that PS3 BD based games are all region free, however the online multiplayer in a lot of games is not. Can you imagine the trouble there would be if Home was region free and you tried to join a game hosted by someone in a different region? It would be mayhem on the forum and we'd all be flaming Sony, even though that's normal practice for some members anyway! :D


99% of games droped the region locking of the MP, i can barely remember one recently, even games like Resistance dropped it and allowed worldwide games

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we will get screwed scee is in charge of our reigion 

 so   do not mess up scee

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aaaaaaaaawwwww dag nabbit. i have a HK ps3 so it looks like the only people i will ever meet outside my friends list will be from singapore and korea :(

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dragonriderm wrote:

SniperChris wrote:
Love it! Won't have American's screaming at you when chilling out at the Home Square.

yeah but the price of that is the yanks get times square and we'll get albert square (not literally of course)

they'll get beverly hills, we'll get grange hill.

they'll get vegas, we'll get southend

they'll get madison square garden and we'll get the millenium dome.  (i think i've gone as far as i can with this one:smileyvery-happy: )

 

it's not that i mind not being able to be in the same spaces as americans, it's just that we'll once again be missing out on god knows how much content. 


haha quality m8 :)

 

made me chuckle anyway :D

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i cant..  *sighs* i just...

 

profit profit profit...

 

**bleep** its money tats all there is too it

europe isnt swayed by advertising like yanks and the home will be paid for by in game advertising so.. yeh

but seeing as how we pay £50 = $100 as as opposed to yanks $50 for a gameYTF isnt any *****ing good games coming out here at least!!

 

jsut some thing anything!!!! that europe gets that isnt the rest of the worlds sloppy seconds GIVE ME SOMETHING!!!!

im not even asking fo rsomething for free just  you know.. TRY F.F.S! to give europe somethig anything to replace the lack of quality and service and launch times and prices

ive always supported sony i mean gaming in general (i do have a 360) but i always support sony in the console war i never play my 360 and if something is multiplat i get it on ps3

PLEASE GIVE ME SOMETHING!!!

 

i sound like every other fan boy now and i understand why theyre mad but just tonight right now imo the gaming industry is ***** me off!!

im not gonna say im gonna sell my ps3 or anything but ive always had faith in sony as a "better" brand than M$ in games and service and just in the ndustry as a whole but ultimatly... if i do pack in console gaming sometime itll be onto PC then as i know the pc has better games and more of them

i mean i have crysis and stalker and neverwinter nights 2 and two worlds and battle field 2142 and hellgate london **bleep** am i wasting m money and effort and time on sony for when they dont care about me?

im not saying im something special but others feel like me and 1 becomes 1000 and so on ya know? 

 

i just dont know how long i personally can hold onto the thought that the ps3 turn around is next month or the next or next year?!

im just fed up and theres nothing good even the new games or home sound worse and worse as i wait for them and i just dont understand why im doing this to myself 

 

i bought a ps3 on launch as i did 360 and i dunno i hate M$ anyway thats a given right? ;)

but sony i thought were bette rthan that.. not saying the service isnt 100 times better than 360 but its like a £500 kick in the teeth everytime i here how my ps3 dont compare for sh it in usa 

 

ultimately if i just decide to go on my pc instead thats M$ getting my money not sony and i fear thats what i might do next year im giving them till console launch date next year :(

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actually a lot of the extra money we spend on games goes to tax, especially in the UK, we get taxed out of the ass even over other EU countries. thats why play operates out of Jersey, and zavvi too now i think, so that they can try and avoid some of the tax and offer us cheaper prices, which is why now a lot of games are coming down to around £35-40 on release.

 

the region lock would probably also need to be on for different languages, especially when you consider you could have like a japanese person in the bowling lane next to an english person, it would be a cluster-eff, and then you also have to media side of it with the adverts, trailers and even places we see inside home (ie we wouldnt have gamestop in UK, we would see game)

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yeh i get that but just give me the choice to go to usa or japan or europe when i want right?

 

your telling me tht is IMPOSSIBLE to do on ps3?

 

i know pc games do it lol

 

i would like to spend most of my time in usa you know its all about movies and stuff? the films are out in isa 6 months before us and they spend lots of money on advertising for the uk release and they dont want europe to have seen the ads early

 

you think im some kinda ludite who you know wont find out about whats going on in usa?

i have the internet *****! thats the whole point of internet is information!

you cant restrict me or what i see

oh also! if you have a usa account on your ps3 you can use usa home right? 

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yeh i get that but just give me the choice to go to usa or japan or europe when i want right?

 

your telling me tht is IMPOSSIBLE to do on ps3?

 

i know pc games do it lol 

 

i would like to spend most of my time in usa  you know its all about movies and stuff? the films are out in isa 6 months before us and they spend lots of money on advertising for the uk release and they dont want europe to have seen the ads early


well, you can still talk to your american friends and invite them to your private space. the advertising thing is more about products that dont apply to the euro market for america and vice versa, like why should the NFL pay to show adverts to the whole of europe when they only want to target the american demographics to promote the superbowl for example.

 

(edit) about using USA home, im not sure that would work, because im guessing theyre IP scanning now to lock things, which is why we cant browse the video store.

 

what i would ask is if they couldnt use IP tracing to target advertising and try to have seperate areas for different languages, but im not sure how easy or even legal it would be

 

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yeh but if i want to see the ads isnt that better?

surely locking all of europe out is just .. its just worng business!

 

screw the apartment anyway!

teh whole home experiance is online communication and socialing! thats the point!!!

 

going to events or playing social games or watching the newest trailers with yoru friends!

thats what its does!!! thats what home is supposed to be about!

and none of those features are available in the apartment :O 

 

 

 

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Radman1990 wrote:

FiReTiGeR2K wrote:

yeh i get that but just give me the choice to go to usa or japan or europe when i want right?

 

your telling me tht is IMPOSSIBLE to do on ps3?

 

i know pc games do it lol 

 

i would like to spend most of my time in usa  you know its all about movies and stuff? the films are out in isa 6 months before us and they spend lots of money on advertising for the uk release and they dont want europe to have seen the ads early


well, you can still talk to your american friends and invite them to your private space. the advertising thing is more about products that dont apply to the euro market for america and vice versa, like why should the NFL pay to show adverts to the whole of europe when they only want to target the american demographics to promote the superbowl for example.

 

(edit) about using USA home, im not sure that would work, because im guessing theyre IP scanning now to lock things, which is why we cant browse the video store.

 

what i would ask is if they couldnt use IP tracing to target advertising and try to have seperate areas for different languages, but im not sure how easy or even legal it would be

 

Message Edited by Radman1990 on 19-07-2008 01:46 AM

it's not only legal it's very possible.

plenty of websites detect your ip and give you ads for your specific region.

it would be easy to control ads for different players depending on where they are.

anyway, the ads arent the problem.

the problem is like i pointed out in my post a page or so back, the spaces are different the us spaces looking grander than the eu ones for example.

and what about when the us get's new in home games but we dont get them for the eu version?  (dont say it will never happen because quite clearly it's a distinct possibility.

what if they add a poker game but they only let the us have it?

would that be ok? 

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Couldn't Sony lock the 'default' public spaces we arrived in for home to our region, but then also give us an 'international' space to visit?

 

If too many users went into the 'international' space and made it unusable due to lag issues etc, most users would gravitate back to the 'default'/region specific areas.

 

That in turn would make the 'international' area more stable, due to less people.

 

Advertisements and content would have to be limited to the 'default'/region spaces, leaving the 'international' area either devoid of adverts or limited to global brands like 'Coca-Cola' or 'Nike' or whatever.

 

Just a thought...

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Couldn't Sony lock the 'default' public spaces we arrived in for home to our region, but then also give us an 'international' space to visit?

 

If too many users went into the 'international' space and made it unusable due to lag issues etc, most users would gravitate back to the 'default'/region specific areas.

 

That in turn would make the 'international' area more stable, due to less people.

 

Advertisements and content would have to be limited to the 'default'/region spaces, leaving the 'international' area either devoid of adverts or limited to global brands like 'Coca-Cola' or 'Nike' or whatever.

 

Just a thought...

Message Edited by Starfuryalpha on 19-07-2008 03:07 PM

the thing is the lag excuse isnt valid.

home wont be like an mmo with thousands of people in each world, they've stated that each space will allow about sixty people at a time, if more people want to go to a certain space then they'll go to a duplicate space, so lag wont ever be a problem  due to overcrowding.

this region locking thing is bad enough but on top of that we wont even be getting the same spaces.

that ridiculous.

i understand why they want to make sure ads go to the right people but we know they can change what we see on their online service depedning on what region we're in, the fact the video store doesnt even show up if you're outside the us is proof of that.

they cant add a simple routine that checks where your ip address is located and assigns ads depending on your region?

 

and as somebody said, this whole region locking crap goes right against the idea of home in the first place. 

why not just give each user a little room that they cant get out of, dont do things by half take the philosophy behind this crap to the ultimate level and turn it into wome orwellian nightmare.

but then when scee are involved, even doing things by half is far too much to expect. 

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what, were they hoping we'd forget about this?

that we'd just not care that a project being made here in the uk will give european users than shaft once again?

how can scee be allowed to continually pull this crap?

they're the one's making it and they deliberatly chose to give us a lesser version.

that to me is absolutely pathetic.

how can somebody keep their job when they disrespect their customers like that time and time again?

 

 the other other place you could be this useless and still keep your job is politics, and god help us if reeves ever gets elected anywhere he can really affect peoples lives.

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dragonriderm wrote:

what, were they hoping we'd forget about this?


The problem is that SCEE never responds to anything we say here, or even act on it. So while some of us can agree that this seems to be another blow for the European (and Australian/New Zealand I presume) community. It does not change anything that we protest or argue. Just see the thread about getting an European counterpart for the SCEA Playstation Blog.

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yay! someone read my post and got a coherant sentance out of it ^-^

 

tanks... *sighs* i just want to move to americ... ***** europe all togethe runless they start treating uk as us region caus were totally different to the rest of europe or gaming habits and the graphs say perfectly we spend the most of game sand play the moost why are we being treated like some backwater germany where games are a sin? 

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