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Speaking from the heart

 

I have supported the Playstation 3 from day one and paid a lot of money in the console cost and games and accesories. I would like to make some suggestions as to how Sony can finally win the console war and secure the win. The Playstation 3 is a superiour machine however there are some things that need to be tackled that havent been delt with for years. These have needed to be done for years.

 

Backwards Compatability

 

Restoring this feature will allow your PS3 users access to a bigger games library and will allow them to play there favouritie PS2 games on there PS3 system. This will be very convinient and will also encourage or give incentive, motivation for the developers of the PS2 game supported on your PS3 to develop a Playstation 3 title or sequal to the Playstation 2 game on the Playstation 3. This will also allow new people to the Playstation Franchise see what being a Playstation 3 fan is all about and the advantages of this will greatly pay off in the long run.

 

The Playstation 3 could use more sequals and getting the classic Playstation Franchise  games comming

back as sequals on the Playstation 3 will make many anti Playstation fans quickly jump ship resulting in more games and console sales. Again in the long run this will pay off and will be exactly what you need.
Also on the Xbox 360 if you put in GTA San Andreas for example you can play this and even play this with upscaled graphics and better sound. Perhaps a Playstation 3 version of the Direct X driver to do this with Playstation 2 games could be possible. With the right people and team this can be done.

 

Restore Linux

 

Lets be fair here no one was happy with the problems caused when Sony removed this feature and ended up suing geohot for restoring this feature that was originaly promised to us. Also because of sony angering its users PSN ended up getting breached which just isnt what anyone wanted to ever happen. Decissions like removing linux is the reason why people lose confidence in the Playstation 3.This should be returned to the users and having this removed because of the actions of pirates , resulting in Playstation 3 users suffering over someone elses actions isnt fair. The Playstation 3 users have not done anything to deserve this and should not have there features removed. The issue is with the pirates not the Playstation 3 users we should be left out of it. Restoring this feature allows people to have there console be more than just a gaming machine. The hardware inside the Playstation 3 is capable of even runnings Windows 8 flawless for gods sake so keep Linux support on.

 

Developers to start using Full Blu Ray Disc Capacity

 

How long has the Playstation 3 been out for years and years yet there has been no incentive given or no motivation to developers to start making there games bigger and last longer. The Blu Ray drive was built for the sole purpose of offering people bigger and longer games over the rival Xbox 360 console yet barely any developers have took advantage of this. The games should be bigger and massive yet they are not and are just the same as the rival Xbox 360. This should be tackled because that would mean the Blu Ray Drive isnt been used for what it was originaly used for. Yes the Xbox 360 fans would complain but when it comes down to it there beefs would be with Microsoft.

 

Get the popular exclusives back

 

Resident Evil,Metal Gear Solid,Final Fantasy,Tekken have all gone to the Xbox 360. What needs to be done is to get all of these titles back as exclusives to the Playstation 3. If not then why not get us exclusive titles for these series on the Playstation 3. This way the Playstation 3 will still have exclusive games for it that people will want to play and own. This should of been tackled quickly but sadly was not. Doing this will make more and more people want a Playstation 3 and more people will jump ship.

 

Globalise Playstation Network

 

Making all the world content availible to everyone will allow other countries to purchase extra content and will make PSN stand out above the Rival Xbox Live. This would also make PSN a lot more interesting and would make a lot of people jump over to PSN. This would also give you a much superiour service and make the service amazing. The long term benenfits of doing this would greatly pay off.

 

Sequals to popular Playstation game series

 

Broken Sword, Destruction Derby,Music,Discworld etc we have not seen any HD remakes of the PS1 classics on the PS3 or sequals for the PS3 to these games and many more popular PS1 and PS2 games. Making sequals to the games that where popular from the previous Playstation 1 and 2 franchise will get a lot of people wanting a Playstation 3. This has not happend for years and needs to happen now. Owning a PS3 ment you had multiple advantages over other consoles yet for some bizzare reason Sony have not done this.

 

So there you have it exactly what Sony needs to do to restore peoples trust and to cripple the competition. Disagree with this all you want but the fact is the Playstation 3 is no where near what it is supposed to be doing and the issues should of been tackled ages ago.

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Console war? O dear.

 

Anyhow if there was such thing I think the PS3 won it a long time ago when Uncharted 2 came out.

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seriously have we just gone back a few years
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Only fanboys care about console wars.

 

I am more than happy with my Ps3' and Xbox 360's

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having just gone back and read that post i have to agree with not a single bit of it

backwards comp = removed for a reason and now ps2 games are on the store

linux = removed and will never come back

bluray = was not built for that sole reason

exclusives = plenty on the ps3 , those games are not exclusive to xbox , if they were then we wouldnt have them on the ps3 now would we go check the meaning of exclusive

global network and store = never going to happen due to all the legal stuff that already hinders us in europe U SHOULD KNOW THIS ALREADY

Sequels = plenty

and another thing i have realised is u posted this exact same thread many many moons ago

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Still regaurdless of your opinions this does not dispute the fact that Sony removed countless features from the Playstation 3 which they promised everyone at the 2005 E3 Conference.

 

And we have the specs of the PS3 to consider

 

  • 1 VMX vector unit per core
  • 512KB L2 cache
  • 7 x SPE @3.2GHz
  • 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
  • 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
  • * 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU: RSX @550MHz

  • 1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
  • Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
  • Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

Sound: Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-base processing)

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  • 256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz

Yet no game on the PS3 takes full advatage of these specs only part advantage. Consoles have advanced now to the point where they can do more than just play games. What the Playstation 3 needs is its original features restored and PS1 and PS2 classics to come back in HD or sequals on the PS3. Look at music, Music 2000 for example you could make your own music but we cant do this on the PS3 why????

 

And what about the Playstation 4 will we be seeing the same problems like features getting removed, even less games most of the Playstation 1 and 2 Fanbase actually wanted to see?

 

@Mcneillio why should people have to rebuy ps2 games when they already own them on disc?. They should be able to put the disc in and play it. Its not like people are not buying PS3 games as they are.

 

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Still regaurdless of your opinions this does not dispute the fact that Sony removed countless features from the Playstation 3 which they promised everyone at the 2005 E3 Conference.

 

It was not promised.

 

Like any tech show their are things that never make it in to the final product.

 

The only thing now is that everyday people get to see these shows so they get to see these things.

 

Many things never make it into a final product from the first showing.

 

So no nothing like that was promised!

 

 

 

As for sony re-selling Ps2 games on PSN is down to that they can and make even more money on it.

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Forget about the ps3 and 360, I want a ps4 now lol
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Next gen Playstation and Xbox by end of 2013. I be getting both.
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(sigh)the PS3 kicks ass , ok? if you buy a PS3 you get more for your money i have a wii , a 360 and a PS3 i should know
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Yet no game on the PS3 takes full advatage of these specs only part advantage. Consoles have advanced now to the point where they can do more than just play games. What the Playstation 3 needs is its original features restored and PS1 and PS2 classics to come back in HD or sequals on the PS3. Look at music, Music 2000 for example you could make your own music but we cant do this on the PS3 why????

 

And what about the Playstation 4 will we be seeing the same problems like features getting removed, even less games most of the Playstation 1 and 2 Fanbase actually wanted to see?

 

@Mcneillio why should people have to rebuy ps2 games when they already own them on disc?. They should be able to put the disc in and play it. Its not like people are not buying PS3 games as they are.

 

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If people still ps2 most likely they will still have a ps2 so it's not an issue.

Who cares about ps1 & ps2 game fanbase they are old games that are only good for nostalgia as most game don't actually play aswell as you remember them.

Music making games are down to developers to create as no one has must mean there isn't a market for it just because a few liked them on ps1 or ps2 doesn't mean they were popular.

Apart from linux which was done with good reason i can't think of to much that has been removed compared to what has been added.

Sequels of alot of games like the ones you suggested apart from destruction derby which would be good to have a proper updated version are from an era of home computers before pc's.

Which alot of those games were point & click like broken sword & discworld the former being a very dull indeed.

If people do buy a ps4 when it comes out & it has no backwards compatibilty it is simply the price of progression.

Limiting a machine just to cater for older games will make future games suffer in my opinion.

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There is no console war. And if there was one Wii would have took the crown already.

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There is no console war. And if there was one Wii would have took the crown already.


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Limiting a machine just to cater for older games will make future games suffer in my opinion.



Its not limiting the machine though, ps3 is perfectly capable of playing ps2 games while still being innovative it always has been. It annoys me to see ps2 games appearing on the store now, its like they switched off the the capability to run the old discs to make more money out of people paying for them again.

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Who would have dreamed that even today PS2 consoles and games are still selling beside the PS3?

 

Sony wouldn't want to stop the sales of these now would they. This could be a real good reason why PS3 don't support PS2 games from disc anymore ( the way people wanted ) the console to do.

 

But the console is Backward Compatible as it plays PSone games doesn't it?

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Yes it does and thats the strangest thing about it. Notice how the PS1 is a seperate architecture from the Playstation 3 yet the PS3 still has backwards compatability for the games but not for the Playstation 2. It should be noted that the Playstation 2 has full backwards compatability for its previous Playstation Franchise yet the Playstation 3 does not for its Playstation 2 titles.

 

And sony did promise full backwards compatability at the 2005 E3 conference watch it on Youtube if you dont belive me.

 

My PS3 is just sitting on the unit doing nothing because most of the games out for it right now dont interest me compared to what the Playstation 2 franchise had to offer. Yes they have some great games but it doesnt appeal to most of the Playstation fanbase.

 

The PS3 could of been spectacular but sadly to many mistakes made by Sony have caused me to lose faith in them. Im skeptical about getting a Playstation 4 to be honnest as the Playstation 3's loss of features discouraged me from pre ordering one.

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Yes it does and thats the strangest thing about it. Notice how the PS1 is a seperate architecture from the Playstation 3 yet the PS3 still has backwards compatability for the games but not for the Playstation 2. It should be noted that the Playstation 2 has full backwards compatability for its previous Playstation Franchise yet the Playstation 3 does not for its Playstation 2 titles.

 

And sony did promise full backwards compatability at the 2005 E3 conference watch it on Youtube if you dont belive me.

 

My PS3 is just sitting on the unit doing nothing because most of the games out for it right now dont interest me compared to what the Playstation 2 franchise had to offer. Yes they have some great games but it doesnt appeal to most of the Playstation fanbase.

 

The PS3 could of been spectacular but sadly to many mistakes made by Sony have caused me to lose faith in them. Im skeptical about getting a Playstation 4 to be honnest as the Playstation 3's loss of features discouraged me from pre ordering one.



oh no they did not

 

 

rest is opinion

 

 

maybe you getting old and fed up of gaming the ps3 has loads and loads to offer

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Wowsers... I don't think I agree with a single point of the opening post!

 

For me there are some things that are definitely holding back the ps3 but backwards compatability, other OS, globalising the PSN etc certainly aren't.

 

I'm more concerned about the inability of multi platform developers as a whole to deliver a comparable product to those that they deliver to the 360. I have both consoles and have played quite a few games on both and the ps3 versions are usually the weakest of the two... check out Skyrim and Mass Effect 3 for recent examples. You can have all the power and 'superiority' that you want but if devs don't use it or can't even deliver an equal product then what's the point?

 

I gather that they're ditching the cell for the PS4? Good riddance and maybe in the future the developers will produce the game experiences that Sony users deserve.

 

The current strengths of the PS3 for me is the totally brilliant exclusives that it as. That is why I still love my PS3. Franchises such as Killzone, Uncharted and Resistance are for me very close to my heart and there are loads more out there that people love.

 

At the end of the day I play games not consoles and will continue to support both consoles whilst they both continue to deliver brilliant games.

 

When push comes to shove I would say that the PS3 is my favourite of the two consoles probably due to being with Sony since the PS1 but there is no doubt that the 360 does some things a whole lot better and that is what IMO Sony need to address.

 

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Good post Vambo :)

 

I don't own one but I believe they've addressed some of the issues, specifically network, that the 360 excelled at with Vita so hopefully the next PS will go a step further too.

 

As for the 'console war', I shrug at thee.

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There have been stuff taken out of the PS3 since PS3s initial 2006 launch. Sony are not gonna start putting things back in to suit us are they? The PS2 thing might aswell be redundent as it's horrible to play those games on the PS3. The majority of in-house developers already utilise most of the Blu-ray Disc and the specs of the PS3, but the reason why 3rd party don't do it is so, they can cater for Xbox 360 users. 3rd party devs tend to utilise the DVD DL more than the BD; but most of it, is down to the developers preference on which format to use.

 

I would like to see more stuff added on to the PS3 that we all could use instead of isolating parts of the PS3 for Vita users and PS+ subscibers.

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I haven't really had a look around the XMB since Vita launched, what have they isolated for Vita laras?

 

I'm not sure you're isolated as such from either, you're free to sub to plus and free to buy Vita aren't you?

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