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PS3 Trophies .... Whats the problem?

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12 Aug 2008
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Before I start, i will apologise for making yet another post on trophies as im sure all of those out there who cudnt give a toss about them are just groaning in disgust.

 

Anyways, i hear recently that the new star wars game wont support trophies, u may say "who cares", but add that to the ever growing list of FUTURE games that arent going to support them , then i think there is at least some cause to care.

 

For example, most of these games will be released on the 360 too , and its pretty obvious that they will all incorporate Achievements in them. But what i dont get is why they can easily and without question or doubt, put achievements into 360 games , yet when it comes to the ps3 we have to actually wonder if they will put trophies in , and 90% of the time , they dont. All i ask is - Why the difficulty to add trophies when the xbox version is gettin achievements with ease and without question ?

 

Would like to hear ppls thots on this .... but not those who are gonna moan about the thread , pretty clear that if ur not interested , then why even bother to come on this thread if it is just to moan.

 

Hope to hear from ppl :D cheers guys 

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i agree! i dont get  why they wont do it. stupid devs :(
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Because nobody likes the PS3

 

 

 

 

 

Developer wise :P

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Because Microsoft have said that any game that is made for xbox must have achievments. Sony have said if you can be bothered to put trophies in then put them in.
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because the developers know they'll be insulted and recieve mass messages of disgust if they give us trophies for like watching the opening credit or getting past a certain level.

 

 

also from what i heard sony said after 2009 all games released will have trophies

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i think sony should enforce this as a priority on devs. i have got loads of games here that could do with some trophy support
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too much effort to shoe-horn them in at the last minute.
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too much effort to shoe-horn them in at the last minute.

but i dont see why it has to be last minute, fair enuf a month ago , but trophies have been out a while now .... developers shud be aware of them and be implementing them in the same way they do with achievements by now

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Dan-Camz wrote:

RZR666 wrote:
too much effort to shoe-horn them in at the last minute.

but i dont see why it has to be last minute, fair enuf a month ago , but trophies have been out a while now .... developers shud be aware of them and be implementing them in the same way they do with achievements by now


NO they haven't !!!!!! Trophies are still new. Come back in 3 months time and if the situations still the same then we can have a discussion about it.

 

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RZR666 wrote:
too much effort to shoe-horn them in at the last minute.

but i dont see why it has to be last minute, fair enuf a month ago , but trophies have been out a while now .... developers shud be aware of them and be implementing them in the same way they do with achievements by now


It probabaly takes years to make a game and trophies have only been available to put in games for a couple of months so it is last minute in a way. In a year or so probabaly 95% of PS3 games released will have trophy support.

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If all future games came out, they shouldn't have over 40.

 

I've completely fallen in love with Uncharted again and will be playing for a long time, for replay value and for the trophies.

 

But if there was loads of games out with tonnes of trophies like Uncharted, no one would have the time to get them!

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I'm sure I've read somewhere that Sony are to make the inclusion of trophies compulsory.
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I'm sure I've read somewhere that Sony are to make the inclusion of trophies compulsory.

Well if that's true then that's good news!

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I'm sure I've read somewhere that Sony are to make the inclusion of trophies compulsory.

I'd assume it'll come when home launches.

They aren't essential so i don't see the point of people getting upset about not having them in certain games. Doesn't make the games any better/worse. Just adds a bit of replayability to some games.

I play burnout paradise a lot and that doesn't have trophies at the moment, won't change me playing it a lot when it does.

It's still an awesome game with or without trophies.

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The thing that annoys me is it seems like it's going to take ages for the number of games with trophies to increase.
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Sony are making it compulsory for all games starting development in 09, so no real need to worry.
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Well I'm having loads of fun aiming for all trophies & platinum in Uncharted so hopefully the sequel will be just as good :D!
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The thing that annoys me is it seems like it's going to take ages for the number of games with trophies to increase.

Yep this is the big problem, they are just coming out to slow.

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All i ask is - Why the difficulty to add trophies when the xbox version is gettin achievements with ease and without question ?

 


I think the simple answer is, it's not any more difficult on the PS3 than on the 360. The key difference is that MS has made this a requirement on developers (i.e. you cannot release a game if it doesn't support achievements), whereas Sony seems to have left it to the discretion of developers as to whether or not they include them. In all honesty I can't see how they could have made it mandatory as so many games would already have been in development, so it would be unreasonable to demand that trophies are added in at a late stage when it might conflict with release deadlines to do so. However, there's no reason why they couldn't make trophies a mandatory requirement from a future date, and I hope they at least consider that. 

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Dan-Camz wrote:

 

All i ask is - Why the difficulty to add trophies when the xbox version is gettin achievements with ease and without question ?

 


I think the simple answer is, it's not any more difficult on the PS3 than on the 360. The key difference is that MS has made this a requirement on developers (i.e. you cannot release a game if it doesn't support achievements), whereas Sony seems to have left it to the discretion of developers as to whether or not they include them. In all honesty I can't see how they could have made it mandatory as so many games would already have been in development, so it would be unreasonable to demand that trophies are added in at a late stage when it might conflict with release deadlines to do so. However, there's no reason why they couldn't make trophies a mandatory requirement from a future date, and I hope they at least consider that. 


I think they will have to make them mandatory in the end as clearly the uptake has been slow and Sony need to force the issue.

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I'm not at all surprised that quite a lot of upcoming games aren't supporting trophies and nobody else should be either. Games take an awful long time to make in most cases, sometimes as long as 2, 3 or 4 years. Sony only recently added the trophy feature and didn't give devs much of a warning about it. Why do people expect every dev to go back and restructure their games to incorporate trophies? It causes delays!

 

If Sony had given developers 3 or even 6 months notice then things might be different but they didn't so we have a situation where devs can add trophy support if they wish but don't have to. In the future I'm almost certain that Sony will incorporate trophy support into their working agreements with developers, much like Microsoft do to ensure every single game released for the sytem supports trophies.

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