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So it's just been confirmed on the PlayStation Blog that we STILL can't upgrade a sub accounts to a master account on the PS4. And this time around there are more restrictions, not less.

After SIX YEARS how has this NOT been implemented. And why are we once again restricted from adding money to our own wallets? It means we can't purchase any kind of subscription content on PSN and we still have to faff around with the dead master account that it's chained permanently to. And we STILL cannot link our accounts to the various social networking services - not just Facebook this time, but ALL social services. On top of all that we can't use our real names or profile pictures.

I....I'm in total shock. Six years and nothing has been done even though there are thousands (if not more) who are in the same situation and are well over the age of 18.

Please, someone from Sony respond to this and at least give us some sort of indication that it is something that is actively being researched for implementation at a later date on PS4? Creating a new Master account is not, I repeat, NOT an option as I have too many purchases, saves, trophies and more attached to my account, as well as my Vita.

I really am reconsidering my preorder.

Please. :/
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I'm in the same boat as you, and I'm seriously upset about this. I've spent hundreds of hours on collecting my trophies, and I'm not gonna throw that away by making a new account. Using a sub account for another 6 years is NOT an option, as the ridiculous restrictions are just too much to deal with.

 

Unless Sony fixes this, I won't be buying the PS4. This was the last straw. 

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Keep the current account on ps3/vita for saves and purchases, and start a new one for ps4.

Trophies are not actually worth anything, and you will "lose" them but running off to xbox or wherever anyway.

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somebody tagged my post with "no platties = no opinion" which irritated me so I bit.

 

I agree it is a stupid move on sonys part, I can understand being annoyed about losing content (ie games, dlc) and the ps+ cross buy content is a very good point.

 

I will again repeat that I was more responding to the person who's only gripe as far as I could tell from the post was trophies and I made an overly aggressive post because I was tired and grumpy after reading this.

 


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I'm in the same boat as you, and I'm seriously upset about this. I've spent hundreds of hours on collecting my trophies, and I'm not gonna throw that away by making a new account. Using a sub account for another 6 years is NOT an option, as the ridiculous restrictions are just too much to deal with.

 

Unless Sony fixes this, I won't be buying the PS4. This was the last straw. 



losing content like singstar songs, games, ps+ stuff is a perfectly good reason to be really angry about this. I didn't think losing trophies was. 

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i'm a sub-account too and all this is a real SHAME, specially beacuse i cant use the "Share" button at all.

It's a real shame, i cant believe Sony is so lazy and not have any respect for his customers...

Do you think that Youtube is a "Social Network" too?

Maybe we can login at least on youtube for sharing videos?

What a real shame...

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It may be that i just got up, but im confused, you saying the account we are currently using on ps3 (like the one im posting this message with) cant be used on ps4? And i have to make a brand new account for ps4?
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you can use your ps3 account, this person is upset that because they currently have a sub account it will still be a sub account on ps4. They would rather not have a ps4 then continue with a sub account or start a new one.

Because of trophies.
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very strange move,

 

happy i did my kids a full account that i can manage till they are off age/responsabile to do so.

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Sony are stabbing their loyal family customers in the back - We have 3 PS3s and 3 PSPs all on the same IP address and all registered with Sony. Why can't we use them at the same time anymore?
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No, not because of trophies, but because of everything as a whole, this username is my username for EVERYTHING so I'd be losing that, I would have to manage no less than three accounts on my PS4 which would become as tedious as hell to manage and, the MOST important part, it would mean that I would have to link the new account to my Vita to make use of Crossbuy and Remote Play, meaning that I would lose all of the purchases I made on my old account.

So no, not just for trophies cleverclogs. :)

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Same boat

Ive got a sub account and making a new master account isnt a good enough option

This is the name I use all over and dont want to change it
Ive got £100s of singstar songs tied to this acount
Dont know how much money ive spent on other psn purchases but its alot

And my vita is tied to this acount too

Why should I be punished because sony wont add something which to be quite honest should have been in place from the ps3 launch as?

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Exactly. I'm sick of being told to make a new account - I literally cannot afford to repurchase everything I've bought on a new account, just for the sake of losing the ridiculous restrictions of a sub account.

I'm also not willing to do so as this is Sony's fault and not mine, they should have made us aware of the fact that sub accounts cannot ever be upgraded to a proper account when we first made one!

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To be fair, the second post by Astornautti was only talking about trophies.

I suggested keeping the current account for downloads and stuff.
I don't see how my trophy count has any bearing on my opinion, I don't have a platinum so I can't think that being upset about losing then is silly?
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At what point did I refer to your personal trophy count, and how exactly does that affect my desire to keep the five years worth of awards that I have attained for challenging myself to beat sometimes immensely tough in-game tasks? I don't particularly fancy earning the Metal Gear Solid 4 platinum again.

 

At the end of the day I would happily sacrifice every single one of those trophies for a new account now, but the purchases I have made on my PS3 and Vita on this account total up to an amount that I could never respend on a new account.

Yes I know that I can still keep my old account for the PS3 stuff, but I can't do that for my Vita stuff. If I attached the new account to my Vita, I would lose all of my digital purchases, online passes, Cross Buy titles and would be forced for to pay for two PlayStation Plus subscriptions to have access to the Instant Game Collection on all three consoles.

 

If I didn't and used the new account on my PS4 and my current account on my Vita and PS3, then I will be prevented from using all future Cross Buy titles (of which there are MANY coming soon), Remote Play use for my PS4, the parity between the three current Sony games consoles that use SEN accounts that Sony intended for everyone to have and whatever other cross platform features that Sony introduce. It's a catch 22 situation, no matter what you seem to think.

And yes if I am being restricted so much that an entire button on the DualShock 4 (the Share button) is 100% useless to my type of account even though I am more than old enough to be able to use such features, then that makes me reconsider whether I want to purchase a console that leaves me no options except sticking with a child's account that should be upgradeable. When I turned 18 my Xbox 360 notified me that I could upgrade my account to a full account. So what possible excuse can Sony have? None at all.

I just want to raise enough attention to the issue so that Sony will notice, just as they noticed the outcry about the DLNA/MP3 stuff. So please take your sarcasm elsewhere.

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I've taken a little interest in this, although personally it doesn't affect me.

 

I'm assuming a sub account cannot be linked to a new master account?

ie. If the holder of the master account wishes to create a new PSN Id and abandons the old, does this make the sub account void?

 

I guess where I'm going is, is it possible for you to create a master account of your own, now you are of age, link it to your sub account, then simply continue to use your sub account?

 

Probably a daft question but figured you would know the answer.

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Sadly no, it'd be fantastic if that was an option but sadly sub accounts are tied to their master accounts forever. You also have to sign in to the original, now defunct master account (it belonged to my dad but he has since moved out of the house and stopped using games consoles altogether) to accept new terms of conditions as well as add money for the sub account to use.

Another solution that would be equally effective is to simply lift the silly restrictions on sub accounts whose users are over the age of 18. This is already the case with 18 rated PS Store content, so why not do the same with social networking and the ability to manage your own wallet which would make subscriptions services possible? That way an account upgrade wouldn't even be all that necessary.

There are ways around the issue, but Sony clearly don't see any need whatsoever to fix them.
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I see.

 

Well I guess a new master account of your own on the console would at least remove the shackles of needing your dad and his credit card for purchases.

And the sub would have access to any new and existing purchases.

Although still some restrictions with the PS Plus subscriptions.

There would be nothing stopping you from doing that.

And I assume that's exactly what you've done.

 

I tend to agree though that it's an odd decision from SONY.

 

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Well I use my own credit card on my dad's old account because he doesn't use it, so I have been able to change some of the personal details on it. Still, the thing that makes creating a new account for my PS4 gaming is my Vita as I need the same account on both devices, which as I mentioned in a previous post isn't possible because of my previous purchases.

Basically it's a huge mess and all I want is someone from Sony to acknowledge the issue and say whether or not it is something they are at least ATTEMPTING to resolve.
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It would bother me too.
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Gottcha Skitz.

Rather you than me.

I knew there had to be an advantage of being an old fart somewhere. :smileytongue:

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Oh I see, I apologise, I didn't notice that tag (which I agree was idiotic), as I say I thought it was directed at me.

But yeah, this post was just about trying to draw some attention to the issue really, the only thing I can do is do that from time
to time in the hopes that Sony will consider taking the time to at least give us an update on the problem.

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I don't know who it was, doesn't matter anyway. I should have made it clear rather than just ranting but I didn't.

It's worth raising it but I don't know how much success there will be from posting here, there have been many people annoyed with it and seems ridiculous it's still like it is.

I assume some kind of parental control was why people got sub accounts, but considering those with them will eventually turn 18 it seems madness not have have a way of changing it.

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