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If you like the idea of browsing the Internet with your PS3 (an "IT ONLY DOES EVERYTHING" bullet point), or you don't have a PC / Mac or iPad / Android tablet (or they're out of action), in this thread you will hopefully find all the latest news and tips on a potentially great PS3 feature. 

 

Overall, the new WebKit based browser, which Sony introduced with Firmware 4.10, is a significant improvement over the original NetFront browser as it displays most of today's web sites with much greater accuracy, even if performance is below par for a console of  the PS3's power. Hopefully, this is just the start and over the coming weeks Sony will address the various issues, such as the occasional hanging when clicking links and improve usage with the PS3 remote (a great feature), as this has gone backwards (less accurate).

 

I will of course post any new findings I have, but I hope this thread becomes a one stop shop for browser tips and news etc.

 

Usage Guide

 

  • To reduce the height of the address and status bars to a single line on a HD (720p, 1080i and 1080p) TV, press the Triangle button and select Tools, Display Area, Full Pixel from the menu.
     
  • Bookmark your favourite pages by pressing Select and then X or Enter to select the "[Add to Bookmarks]" option.
     
  • To zoom into an area of the page, optionally move the cursor to the desired area and press R3. Then if necessary adjust the zoom with R2 (zoom in) and L2 (zoom out). To exit zoom, press R3 or Circle.
     
  • To open a link in a new window, hold down the X or Enter button on the link (saves having to re-load the original page, where you are likely to click another link (e.g. news article) on the original page). To close the new window and therefore return to the original window, press L3, Triangle and select Close Window from the menu. To move between opened windows, use the L2 and R2 buttons (exit zoom if necessary) or press L3 and cursor to the desired window and press X or Enter.
     
  • To save a picture to the hard disk or other storage, position the cursor on the image, press the Triangle button and select File, Save Image from the menu.
     
  • To save a video or music file, presently you may be able to just click the associated link, however, Sony will hopefully re-instate the ability to stream certain video and music files, in which case, you will need to position the cursor on the link, press Triangle and select File, Save Target from the menu.
     
  • To copy a block of text to the clipboard using the PS3 controller move the cursor to start or end of the text and hold down the X button and move the cursor to highlight the desired text, release the X button and select Copy from the popup menu. If the text includes a link, ensure you initially position the cursor beyond the link, otherwise you'll end up clicking the link. Once you've copied the text, you can then paste the text by displaying the text entry dialog (for a text box etc) and clicking the button in the bottom right corner of the dialog. To copy the address of a link, position the cursor on the link and press Triangle and select File, Copy Address of This Link from the menu. 
     
  • The fastest way to enter text with the on-screen text entry dialog (with a bit of practise) is to switch to the phone style layout (click the keypad type button at the bottom of the dialog) . To delete all the text in a text box, press the Square and L1 buttons together. To enter several digits in a number, press Select twice, to display a numeric keypad (this keypad could do with a dot '.' key, for entering decimal values). 
     
  • If some web sites are causing the browser to repeatedly hang (cursor stops moving) and you end up having to press the power button on the front of the console to power down the console (don't turn it off at the mains), try turning off JavaScript by pressing Triangle and selecting Tools, JavaScript, Off from the menu and re-visiting the sites. This indicates there is an issue with JavaScript, however you can also cause the browser to hang by simply clicking a link (see Browser issues below).


Key Web Sites

 

  • Google Search - UK, US. Essentially looks and operates fine.

    If Sony revert to the standard way web page elements (text box, button, link etc) receive focus, you could most likely use the "query prediction" feature (on closing PS3's text entry dialog). 

  • Official PlayStation Forum (EU)  - PS3 General Discussion. Well, "blow me down with a feather", the presentation of the forum is now spot on and we can post and edit messages.

    HOWEVER, you'll want to avoid adding emoticons as these DELETE THE MESSAGE YOU"VE JUST SPENT HALF AN HOUR ENTERING (not me personally, but this could result in some seriously peeved PS3 users). Also, spellcheck isn't working. 
     
  • Official PlayStation Forum (US) - PS3 General Discussion. Presentation is also spot on, if rather slow.

    As with EU site, adding emoticons DELETES YOUR NEW MESSAGE (avoid). Also you get an error message when posting a message, even though the message is actually posted o.k.

  • Hotmail (Windows Live Mail). On entering a correct id / password the site ends up in a continuous loop, which eventually results in an error page. Turning off JavaScript is not an option as the site requires it.

    The mobile site, mobile.live.com/hm still works fine.
     
  • YouTube. Apart from one glaring omission, YouTube is transformed by the new browser and looks and operates just as well as your favourite desktop browser (performance aside). You can even reply to an individual video comment! The glaring omission? Video playback is still porridge (240p - half DVD resolution) - I know this probably isn't the browser's fault, but even so!

    At some point you may end up on the very basic YouTube XL site, instead of the standard YouTube site. To get back to the standard site, click the yellow "View Standard Version" link, in the bottom left corner of the page. 

    The YouTube Charts page highlights one issue with the browser; it has trouble handling large numbers of images and displays the missing image icon for some of the images.

    If the poor video quality is a deal breaker for you (you've got a monster TV), there's the 3rd party and PS3 specific PS3YouTube.com and if you want to use them in combination, you might want to try PS3 Bookmarklet (my contribution to the cause - refresh issue no longer an issue - yay!). 
     
  • Wikipedia. This is much improved and the slightly larger font means, in the zoomed state (press R3 and hold down L2 to un-zoom, as far as possible), you can read the articles from your sofa without having to horizontally scroll page..

    You may find the site defaults unnecessarily to the mobile version (perhaps Sony could ask Wikipedia to change this). To prevent this, click the "Permanently disable mobile site" link at the bottom of the Wikipedia page.
     
  • Facebook. I don't use Facebook - anyone else given this a good try in the PS3 browser?

Browser Issues in Firmware 4.11

 

  • Sometimes when you click a link the browser "locks up" and you can't move the cursor for several minutes (it will normally recover). During this time you can switch to a another (open) window (R2 / L2) and change the settings in the browser menu (press Triangle etc), but zoom doesn't work (R3 etc). If you exit the browser during the lockup, it will remain locked until the few minutes are up.

    I even had this occur in the following scenario: exited NetFlix app, loaded browser with Google.com as my Home page, changed to Netflix.com, which displayed "Trial offer" page and finally cursored to and clicked "Member Log In" link (using PS3 remote) - locked. Waited for it to recover and it didn't do it again (logged out and tried clicking link again)... I've also had this on the BBC News web site and today on the US PS3 Forum, i.e. not specific to a web site etc.

    I'm speculating this might occur where you click a link while the browser is still updating the page (for "hover" styles).
     
  • On clicking an Adobe Flash object (video player, game etc), the object no longer receives control of the D-Pad keys, which breaks any object that requires cursor key input, such as some Flash games and the video player for YouTube XL (can no longer use the cursor keys to navigate the video player controls (Rewind, Full screen etc)).
     
  • The "focus" model used by the new browser is a retrograde step. Previously, with the NetFront browser and desktop browsers, all HTML input elements (text box, drop down list, etc), buttons and links could be programmatically given focus by calling their associated "focus" method. In NetFront this would move the cursor to the text box etc, so it could be clicked.

    Currently, when the "focus" method is called for text boxes (doesn't even work for links or properly for other elements) the browser automatically displays the text entry dialog, which is not always desirable as quite often you want to see the form etc, before you start entering text. Sony probably asked Google to stop setting focus to the text box on the Google home page for this very reason, where as before the cursor would desirably moved to the text box, ready to be clicked. This is especially important for data entry forms where a text box may not be the first input field (may be a radio button etc).

    My strong recommendation here is to revert to original model where you can programmatically set focus to all appropriate elements (text box, radio button, link, button etc) and this just moves the cursor to the element (doesn't open text entry dialog etc).
     
  • Support for the "target" link attribute is only half implemented. Where you click a link where the web site has indicated the content should be loaded in a named separate window (as specified by the attribute), the browser currently opens a new window for the first link clicked, however, for the second link it opens an additional window instead of loading the content in the first new window (as with desktop browsers and the original NetFront browser).
     
  • When entering a password the text cursor is shown in the wrong position (before the last character entered). This doesn't effect password entry but it is a little disconcerting.
     
  • The cursor navigation routine appears to have been written from scratch without paying attention to the original programming logic (for NetFront), which wasn't bad. Presently, it's significantly less accurate (doesn't always jump to the intended element). For example, on the YouTube my_subscriptions page (must be logged in to use this), you have great trouble getting from the thumbnail check boxes to the thumbnail image links (jumps to the next checkbox, I fix this in the bookarklet). This is possibly related to the unnecessary "float: left" style YouTube uses for the grid entries. Also, doesn't work properly for the menu used on the YouTube Charts page

    To allow for popup menus and prompts etc, I would recommend that the routine ignores elements (links, buttons etc)  under popup elements (e.g. a DIV on a different level (zIndex)), where the popup element contains clickable elements (links, input elements etc). Presently nothing is ignored (NetFront ignored links below popup). If the popup element just contains information (text), such as a tooltip or YouTube's HoverCard's (show movie / show information), it should be ignored, so for example, you can cursor to the element (video thumbnail etc) under the popup.

    If this is perfected, this could be one of the best ways (simple to use and a D-Pad costs peanuts to manufacture) to navigate a web site on a TV (compared to using a touch pad etc). For perfection it needs to be fast and it should recognize elements that aren't normally clickage, such as a SPAN or link without an address, but have been assigned a "click" handler (NetFront didn't support this).
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Well thats a stroke of luck, I was just about to hunt out this thread to ask a question and there it was, front page.

 

Anyway, just wondering if anyone else is noticing more frequent instability and freezing issues over the past few weeks? After the update I got the crashes down to about once a week but the past few weeks I've had loads (7 times tonight!!!) 

I know theres been no firmware changes so I dont know whether to put it down to me trying to do stuff too fast now I'm used to the new limitations (pushing my luck with dogy tech lol) or if its a more widespread issue thats creeping in with the browser.

 

And you're not the only ones who care about the browser but I guess theres only so many times you can complain about it before it feels like you're talking to yourself, banging your head against the brick wall that is Sony's communication policy. Even the offer of free help doesn't seem to interest them. Pretty sad really, all that potential and they cant be bothered enough to even acknowledge it.

 

I would have loved you to have a crack at fixing the browser Tribble. A decent browser would be worth paying for, but it seems even the thought of cash isn't enough to make Sony care (still got enough resources to waste faffing about making that new "Nasne" TV thing though???)

 

I kinda hate unfullfilled potential ...and a lack of ambition. 

.....Oh well, that'll be the wonderful world of Sony.

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Browser Issues:

 

  • External links and bookmarks that refer to a specific point within a web page (web address ends with #<Anchor name>) only take you to the start of the web page and don't jump to the specified anchor, e.g. if you long press a post number link, on left hand side of a post in this forum, it should load thread in a new window and take you to the specific post.

My PS3 dev kit appears to have been lost in the post :smileywink:

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Bye bye :No-no: to uk.playstation.com :Love:

 

It was nice while it lasted :BigGrin: in the PS3 browser. 

Now the Redirects have been enabled again  :Stupid:to the PS3 specific designed sites..

Can't get on uk.playstation.com any more... 

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As a bonus it appears the new browser still comes with the "Cookie Monster" :smileywink:

 

No, I haven't lost it more than usual; cookies setup by web sites such as Wikipedia (for Desktop view) and Netflix (for login information), expire long before they're supposed to, requiring you to re-login etc... Anyone else noticed this?

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Tribble6 wrote:

As a bonus it appears the new browser still comes with the "Cookie Monster" :smileywink:

 

No, I haven't lost it more than usual; cookies setup by web sites such as Wikipedia (for Desktop view) and Netflix (for login information), expire long before they're supposed to, requiring you to re-login etc... Anyone else noticed this?


Think Its got worse... like the Storage area is no longer as big as it was, aka the scratch disk ( Swap disk in linux systems ) has shrunk for the shared browser, Think this was the reason behind Streaming of files being removed with the New Presets with java script/HTML using more memory and HDD space. Normal ratio is meant to be Double the physical memory including video ram = swap disk size.

Depends how close the PS3 mirrors its original OS heritage. 

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Think Its got worse... like the Storage area is no longer as big as it was, aka the scratch disk ( Swap disk in linux systems ) has shrunk for the shared browser, Think this was the reason behind Streaming of files being removed with the New Presets with java script/HTML using more memory and HDD space. Normal ratio is meant to be Double the physical memory including video ram = swap disk size.

Depends how close the PS3 mirrors its original OS heritage.  

 

Yeah, I reckon so (if bookmarks can be stored permanently, why not cookies...). I'm hoping an update is imminent as the quite frequent long pauses on the BBC News site, which I peruse most nights, is getting rather tiresome (this was one of the few web sites that used to work perfectly in the old browser...).

 

BTW, do you find the PS3 specific PlayStation site too simplistic (also rather slow in the new browser), even if the presentation is good? I tried to look at the site (standard version) in Google TV and it kept crashing Chrome... 

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You can't run the PS3 speciic SD sites in normal PC browsers the layout engine of normal PC browser won't render it correctly.

Thats likely why Chrome light Crashes.

 

Yes they are to simple/basic.    

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I looked at SD site by resettling display settings and plugging in my PS2 lead. Like i said in your playstation.com thread the SD site needs pulling it's so out of date FW 3.55 is now available indeed so relevant in december 2010. :Lol:
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PS3 browser users can now log in to the UK (EU) and US PlayStation Blog sites and post messages - yay :smileyhappy:.

 

The fact the trailers don't work on the US Blog (require Flash 10.x ?) is not so good... 

 

If you see a strange message from me posted (using PS3 browser, of course) on the Aliens: Colonial Marines blog (US), the associated message is awaiting moderation as I included a link (URL's are automatically converted to links) to the PS3YouTube (480p) version of the video (given that the video is promoting the game and PS3YouTube is free to use, should be o.k.?).

 

P.S. Once a video loads on PS3YouTube, if the video keeps stopping and starting (not buffering) and normally videos stream o.k., try refreshing the page - works for me.

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As covered previously, Sony should ideally make a small change to the browser so you always edit text on the web page and not via the text entry dialog (as for screen resolutions below 1080p/i), as this doesn't work for Rich Text editing.

 

Here's how you can currently post a perfectly formatted reply to a post on this forum, where using a display resolution below 1080p/i:

 

  1. Click Reply link. 
  2. Click "Quote" link and then press Circle button to immediately exit text entry dialog.
  3. Click "HTML" tab and click text area to begin editing.
  4. If you're going to be entering more than one paragraph, copy the blank paragraph <p>&nbsp;</p> (at end of HTML) to the clipboard.
  5. Replace &nbsp;, within last blank paragraph, with your paragraph text.
  6. If you have another paragraph, paste two copies of the blank paragraph to the end of HTML and go to step 4.
  7. Press Start to accept changes.
  8. Click Preview tab and if you need to make changes, only use HTML tab.

If you want to include smiley emoticon, enter a colon followed by smiley and one of the following words and another colon:

 

happy :smileyhappy:, indifferent :smileyindifferent:, mad :smileymad:, sad :smileysad:, surprised :smileysurprised:, tongue :smileytongue:, wink :smileywink:, embarrassed :smileyembarrassed: 

 

For the following icons, enter the word listed surrounded by colons: No-no :No-no:, Stupid :Stupid:, Thumbs :Thumbs:, xRolleyes :xRolleyes:, Lol :Lol:

 

If you want to include a link in your post, enter <a href="link address">link text</a>, e.g. <a  href="http://sony.com">Sony</a> would add a Sony link. To get the link to open in a new window, insert a space followed by target="_blank" after the link address.

 

If you want to refer to another thread / post in this forum, ideally copy the address to the clipboard before you start your reply as you can then just paste the address. Typically, you would not specify the target="_blank" attribute for forum links.

 

To copy address of any page, load page in the browser and press Triangle and select "Copy Address of This Page" from File menu. If there's a link that refers to a specific point within a page (as for numbered message links in this forum (on left hand side of thread)), you can copy address of these by positioning cursor on link and pressing Triangle and selecting  "Copy Address of This Link" from File menu.

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If you've set the PS3 browser's home page to a search site (Google, Bing etc), you may not realize it, but the fact you now see a blinking text cursor in the search text box means Sony have made an important change to the browser.

 

Like in the old NetFront browser, once a text box receives focus, it retains focus after the PS3's text entry dialog has been closed and maintains the last text cursor position within the text box. This not only resolves the issues with this and the U.S. forum (adding an emoticon zapped whole message and spell check didn't work etc), for the first time in the PS3 browser, you can now pick a suggestion from the drop down list displayed for search text boxes (as for this forum and Google etc).

 

If your screen resolution is below 1080p/i, you can also use the search suggestions, however, editing is still via the text entry dialog, which means Rich Text editing (as for forum messages) still doesn't work. It's a shame Sony didn't at least switch to on-screen editing for 720p users.

 

The PS3 remote missed the boat this time and using the cursor keys to navigate a web page hasn't been improved (cursoring down still jumps to the right, at bottom of the screen (hey?) and you can't use search suggestions etc). Hopefully Sony will show the remote some TLC in time for Microsoft's launch of IE on the X-Box 360 as in terms of real world usage, this blows away the Kinect (as far as navigating a web page is concerned, even if you can show Kinect "the bird" to close browser window :smileywink:).

 

Other issues which have been addressed:

 

  • Links that refer to a specific point within a web page (end with #<Anchor name>) now scroll to the specified anchor.
     
  • The clipboard popup no longer re-appears after copying some text to the clipboard, when you subsequently click a link. It does now appear for this forum's Spell Check (hey?), but you can just press Circle to cancel clipboard menu.

  • Where you have several windows open with lots of images, more images are now displayed o.k. (not perfect).

All other issues are still outstanding, such as the inability to log in to Hotmail and I still encountered some stability issues (had a few temporary lockups (recovers after a couple minutes)), and the popup issue reported by gymno74 still applies (he found that if you are moving between forums on this site, you can keep the handy thread popups by blocking cookies (not necessary if you typically use a bookmark to visit just the PS3 forum etc)).

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i've found a couple of little baddies introduced with v.4.20 that i thought worth mentioning:

 

the 1st happens on this very page funnily enough & as yet, i haven't been able to recreate it elsewhere.

i'll put it this way. whatever you do, don't hold the [DOWN] button on the d-pad to quickly scroll to the

bottom of the page. there'll be a full-on freeze at the same point every time.

 

the 2nd one concerns this website: http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/

it incorporates an 'auto formatting / layout' type feature, which until 4.20 worked perfectly at 1080i/p.

as mentioned earlier in this thread, at resolutions below 1080, it didn't really work & things appeared

squashed. the solution is / was (haven't checked if still working) to change 'view' to maximum size & 'resolution' to +2 in the 'tools' menu.

 

this problem now occurs at 1080 as well & in addition, causes the browser such a problem that pages on the site take forever to load, with many of the graphics missing.

 

the only solution i've found to this is to change 'display area' from standard to full pixel, again in the 'tools' menu, as setting 'view' to maximum stretches things too much & the +1 & +2 resolutions are unavailable at 1080.

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 Setting 'view' to maximum stretches things too much & the +1 & +2 resolutions are unavailable at 1080.



Thats the Website coding again not actualy the PS3 browser. It does that on PCs, the site takes advantage of the Extra space.

Having a bigger screen does not allways result in better web page.....

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Theres now a massive gap between post titles and the date and poster. making it harder to use on PC with Higher resolutions.  

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gymno74 wrote:

i've found a couple of little baddies introduced with v.4.20 that i thought worth mentioning:

 

the 1st happens on this very page funnily enough & as yet, i haven't been able to recreate it elsewhere.

i'll put it this way. whatever you do, don't hold the [DOWN] button on the d-pad to quickly scroll to the

bottom of the page. there'll be a full-on freeze at the same point every time.

Yeah, I had this on Jeff's long running NeoGaf thread and 4.2 has made this issue much worse (several minute lockup instead of just scrolling too far). Sony should refer back to the NetFront implementation as they had the cursor key handling almost spot on (you lucky people in the U.K. can try this for yourselves as some TV service apps still use the old browser).

 

On a more positive note, I've noticed some more fixes:
 

  • On switching back to a window with animated images (GIF's etc), the animations resume as normal (instead of going crazy fast).
     
  • The first time you click a text box containing text, that has focus (text shown with blue background (selected)), selection is now cleared (avoiding unintentional deletion of existing text, where adding text).
     
    Previously, you had to press R1 (to clear selection and move text cursor to end), before typing first character. This was way too complicated, given that you could just backspace text (hold down Square) or press Square + L1 to delete existing text.
     
  • Links can once again be programmatically given focus (restores bookmarklet to former glory - yay :smileyhappy:).
While entering this post using the PS3 browser (without keyboard; I'm a glutton for punishment :smileywink:), I must say the text dialog appearing when you click the text area's scroll bar is starting to get on my nerves...  
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I just found this thread and I must say kudos all round. :)
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i'm not sure what's going on, but the layout issue i reported here:

 

http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-3-General-Discussion/The-PlayStation-3-Internet-B... regarding this site: http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/

 

is no longer an issue.

 

i'm back on my standard settings:

video output - 1080i

view - standard size

display area - standard size

resolution - normal

 

everything loads & displays perfectly again, just like it did prior to v.4.20.

strange.

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Man, the PS3's very own "Cookie Monster" has gone into overdrive since 4.2.

 

 

It seems like I've had to re-log into this site and others, every day now (twice today for this forum!), which is likely due to associated cookies going A.W.O.L. ...

 

And, I've also had a couple of full on crashes (XMB animation stops) on this site (reported to Sony using automated page), after which I ran the corruption check, so cookie issue may well be a general problem, which has just got a whole lot worse (as opposed to being caused by persisting HD corruption).

 

Don't get me wrong though, I'm still liking this update, especially as it shows Sony is willing to make improvements :smileyhappy:. 

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"Man, the PS3's very own "Cookie Monster" has gone into overdrive since 4.2."

 

Was just about to ask if anyone knew how the cookies on the browser work? I can't figure out whats going on with them. Sometimes I dont have to log into sites for weeks, but other times it's like every visit. There doesn't appear to be any consistency.

 

Is it a case of the browser only being able to store a certain number before deleting them? If so, does it delete all, or just some? And if that is whats happening why is it I've never had to re-log into m.facebook since I first logged in? never? Yet the online TV Guide website I use has me logging in every couple of days? Does it treat diferent cookies differently? .....Why?

 

If Sony are still in the mood to continue updating then It'd be nice if you could "bookmark" certain cookies so they don't get deleted until you decide for yourself. 

 

Anyway, minor gripe really. I too am liking the little tweaks Sony have done, although the cursor jumping around the screen as a page loads has its moments of irritation while I try to figure out where its ended up. .....Hehe, Sonys own version of "where's Wally?" LOL

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i was going to say you took the words out of my mouth Berzerker793, but actually you took them ALL out!

 

log-in details definitely used to be deleted with every browser close, but now it seems quite random.

 

btw, while you've been calling it sony's version of 'where's wally', we've been calling it 'cursor pinball' lol...

cursor usually ends up bottom left, just off screen

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Berzerker793 wrote:

Was just about to ask if anyone knew how the cookies on the browser work? I can't figure out whats going on with them. Sometimes I dont have to log into sites for weeks, but other times it's like every visit. There doesn't appear to be any consistency.

 

Is it a case of the browser only being able to store a certain number before deleting them? If so, does it delete all, or just some? And if that is whats happening why is it I've never had to re-log into m.facebook since I first logged in? never? Yet the online TV Guide website I use has me logging in every couple of days? Does it treat diferent cookies differently? .....Why?

 

If Sony are still in the mood to continue updating then It'd be nice if you could "bookmark" certain cookies so they don't get deleted until you decide for yourself. 

Browser cookies come in two flavours: session and persistent. Thank heavens, session cookies, which the Cookie Monster is only allowed to eat when you exit the browser, have always been safe. But he's always had trouble resisting the persistent cookies, before they expire naturally (they have an expiry date & time), and far more so in the new browser (introduced back in February) and now in 4.2, it's just crazy (does he know something we don't :smileywink:). Now It's looking more like a storage issue, as opposed to incorrectly applying the expiry date / time.

 

Whatever the case, I wouldn't of thought it would be too difficult to put Cookie Monster back on rations (although you might need a virtual crane to lift him now :smileywink:).

 


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Anyway, minor gripe really. I too am liking the little tweaks Sony have done, although the cursor jumping around the screen as a page loads has its moments of irritation while I try to figure out where its ended up. .....Hehe, Sonys own version of "where's Wally?" LOL


Yeah, Sony is automatically setting focus to Flash objects, for some reason...

 

P.S. It's been assumed that the browser has to work in a small memory footprint, so it can be used "in game", but if this so, why can't it detect when it's launched directly from XMB and have access to all available RAM (around 200k)?

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Thanks for the replies guys, ...and for the explaination Tribble6 :Thumbs: thats answered a few questions for me. And its always good to know that theres other people out there noticing the browsers (sometimes) erratic behaviour.

 

"P.S. It's been assumed that the browser has to work in a small memory footprint, so it can be used "in game", but if this so, why can't it detect when it's launched directly from XMB and have access to all available RAM (around 200k)?"

 

As for this ^^^  yes, yes, yes. This is something I've wondered since day one of getting my PS3. Hopefully the forthcoming threat from Microsoft putting a browser in the xbox might give Sony the impetuous to move the browser development forwards by leaps and bounds rather than the baby steps they're taking at the moment. (Although baby steps are still better than standing still though.)

 

Thanks though. ...now off to play "Where's Wally", or maybe I'll try a bit of gymno's "pinball" :Lol:

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