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Warning: Sony and I will not be held liable for any damage or loss of data when changing your HDD.

 

Welcome to the Unofficial PS3 Hard Drive Upgrade Thread

This thread was put together by Timesplitter_01 because it would seem that there seems to be a lot of questions about replacing internal hard drives and trying to use external hard drives to back things up. This thread will continuously change when more information surfaces. This thread is a combination of information gathered from all over the web in one place.

Important Questions

Q: Does replacing your PS3 void your warranty?
A: Simple answer is NO. But if you try to modify or take it apart it then this could void your warranty

Q: Will I need to keep the old 60GB internal Hard Drive?
A: Yes you will need to keep the old one in case you have to send in your PS3 for Service and you will need to put the 60GB back into the PS3

Q: Do I need to be careful with the screws?
A: This is probably the hardest bit of the whole process - trying not to strip the screws. From what I have read and watched it would seem if you get the correct size screwdrvier and apply some pressure when you are unscrewing them then it should come out fine with out stripping them

HINTS

Before we start anything I must stress that you have your DATA backup, espically your game data so that you can transfer it. The Device has to be formated in FAT32

WHAT YOU WILL NEED

1 NOTEBOOK 2.5 INCH HDD SATA ANY SIZE (We recommend staying with the same RPM as the PS3’s original HDD, 5400RPM. You can upgrade to 7200RPM, of course, but we cannot promise that it will not have ill-effects on your machine.)
1 MINI PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWDRIVER
1 MINI FLATHEAD SCREWDRIVER
1 SOLID PLACE TO WORK
1 EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE or USB (FORMATED TO FAT32)

GOOD VIDEO RESOURCE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgMSoP1sHPk

FIRST STEP- BACK UP

1. There are 2 ways to back up your data. Simple or Comprehensive

Simple

- GO to saved data utility under GAMES and press triangle and then select copy from the opitions and then select the destination
- Use the same for Music and Photos,etc
- However as Far as I know you can not save the actual game down this way eg PSN downloads

Comprehensive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJDYgQtkk5A

- Go to settings
- Select system settings
- Back up utility
- Back up

and then select the Destination. The device has to be formated in FAT32 to be recognised by the PS3. This way everything gets backed up including the PSN downloads ( I am not sure of things that are protected though eg WarHawk).

http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en...kuputility.html


STEP 2 - Removing the hard disk

Before I start this section and section 3 I would like to say that this is the work of ifmracin of the US playstation forums. He has been helping people on the USA forum out with many questions. My thanks goes out to him for creating the thread on the US playstation forums.

Anyways

1. Touch the power button on the system front for at least two seconds.The power indicator will turn solid red and the system will enter standby mode.

2. Turn off the system using the main power switch on the system rear.

3. Unplug the AC power cord and detach the other cables from
the system.

4. Remove the HDD bay cover on the system's left side. Use the space at the right edge of the HDD bay cover to pull it out from the system.If the cover is difficult to remove, gently insert asmall screwdriver in the space and pry the cover off. Be careful not to damage the system or the cover when using a screwdriver.

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/2.jpg

 

5. Free the hard disk from the system. This had 4 steps

i) Remove the blue screw with a crosshead screwdriver.

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/3.jpg

 

ii) Raise the metal handle

iii) Slide the hard disk to the right

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/4.jpg

 

iv) Use the metal handle to pull the hard disk out from the system.

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/5.jpg

 

 

STEP 3 - Replacing the Hard Disk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t5oyKgbEy0

1. Use a crosshead screwdriver to remove the screws (4 places).

IMPORTANT: These screws are very tight, be sure to find a screwdriver that fits very well, and take your time.

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/6.jpg

 

2. Remove the hard disk from the metal frame. Lift one end and slide the hard disk out to remove

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/7.jpg

 

3. Place the replacement hard disk on the PS3™ system hard disk's metal frame, and then attach using the screws (4 places).

IMPORTANT : Do not overtighten the screws.

4. Install the hard disk in the system. Fully insert the hard disk in the HDD bay, and then slide it to the left.

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/9.jpg

 

Attach the blue screw to lock the hard disk in place. Refer to the instructions for
"Removing the hard disk" in reverse order when installing.

5. Reattach the HDD bay cover.

6. Turn on the PS3™ system. Follow the on-screen instructions to perform initial setup.

STEP 4 - Restoring the back up DATA

Simple Restore ( if you did simple backup)

Just copy all the information back to where you copied it from

Comprehensive Restore (if you did Comprehensive Backup)

1. Once the PS3 has formatted your new HDD go to settings
2. Select System settings
3. Backup utility
4. Restore


Replacement hard disks

You can use hard disks of the following types with the PS3™ system:

Size 2.5 inch (internal type)*1 Interface format Serial ATA*2

*1 Proper operation is not guaranteed for all models.
*2 Parallel ATA is not supported.

2.5" form (generally refered to as a notebook drive)
Serial ATA interface, also shown as SATA
9.5mm Height

IMPORTANT: It is not recommended to sell or get rid of your factory hard drive. If you ever need to send it to Sony for repair, you are going to want to put the origional drive back in prior to sending it in.A good use for it is to get an external USB enclosure and convert it into a portable USB hard drive.

VIDEO RESOURCES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkM9wiZePfs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJDYgQtkk5A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17-1HKZSnvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEdsqS8g5f0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgMSoP1sHPk (GOOD Resource)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAM0DN4k7L4 (ALSO good)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4aRi8szadk


RESOURCES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEdsqS8g5f0

http://www.cnet.com.au/games/ps3/0,2390357...39282375,00.htm

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstatio...thread.id=32840

http://au.gamespot.com/features/6176090/index.html

Drives that Work

IMPORTANT
160GB HDD - Will give you appromatiley 130 GB out of 149 GBof space left
250 GB HDD - Will give you 205 GB of place to use out of 232GB available

http://www.bigbruin.com/2007/wdscorpio250_6

80GB 5400RPM

Fujitsu MHV2080BH 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Fujitsu MHW2080BH 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - Retail
Western Digital Scorpio WD800BEVS 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
HITACHI Travelstar 5K100 HTS541080G9SA00 (0A26924) 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
SAMSUNG FlashON HM08HHI 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
SAMSUNG Spinpoint M Series HM080JI 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
HITACHI Travelstar 5K120 HTS541280H9SA00 (0A50158) 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM


80GB 7200RPM

HITACHI Travelstar 7K100 HTS721080G9SA00 (0A25026) 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Seagate Momentus 7200.1 ST980825AS 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM


100GB 5400RPM

Fujitsu MHW2100BH 100GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Seagate Momentus 5400.2 ST9100824AS 100GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM


100GB 7200RPM

Seagate Momentus 7200.1 ST910021AS 100GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM


120GB 5400RPM

TOSHIBA MK1234GSX 120GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Western Digital Scorpio WD1200BEVS 120GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Seagate Momentus 5400.2 ST9120821AS 120GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Seagate Momentus 5400.3 ST9120822AS 120GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
SAMSUNG Spinpoint M Series HM120JI 120GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM


160GB 5400RPM

SAMSUNG Spinpoint M Series HM160JI 160GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Western Digital Scorpio WD1600BEVS 160GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
HITACHI Travelstar 5K160 HTS541616J9SA00 (0A28844) 160GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Seagate Momentus 5400.3 ST9160821AS 160GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Fujitsu MHW2160BH 160GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - Retail


200GB 4200RPM

TOSHIBA MK2035GSS 200GB 4200 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
HITACHI Travelstar 7K200 HTS722020K9SA00 (0A50940) 200GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM


250GB 5400RPM

SAMSUNG Spinpoint M Series HM250JI 250GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Western Digital Scorpio WD2500BEVS 250GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

5400 Vs 7200 rpm drives

These temps were the highest temps noted w/ room temp of 78.

5400rpm - 111 degrees
7200rpm - 116 degrees

GT-HD
5400rpm - 1:42.636
7200rpm - 1:32.993
Almost 10 seconds off the install time. About 10% increase in speed.

Jericho demo
5400rpm - 2:08.629
7200rpm - 1:58.685
Again, about 10 seconds off install time. And about 8% increase in speed.

Tony Hawk demo
5400rpm - 4:11.184
7200rpm - 3:32.045
Almost 40 seconds off it's install time. Coming in at a nice 16% increase in speed.

DiRT demo
5400rpm - 1:29.289
7200rpm - 1:25.385
This one had 4 seconds shaved off. Not as good, but still about 5% increase in speed.

Notices

The hard disk is a sensitive piece of equipment and should be handled with care at all times. To help prevent software or data loss or corruption, or damage to the hard disk, carefully follow the precautions listed below:

-Do not drop the system or hard disk, or subject to physical shock or vibration.
-Do not allow liquid or small particles to get into the system or hard disk.
-Do not touch the connectors or insert foreign objects into the connectors.
-Do not place the system or hard disk close to magnetic fields such as those produced by magnets or loudspeakers. Also, do not place devices that may be sensitive to magnetic forces (such as a wrist watch or a magnetic card) near the hard disk.
-Do not put heavy objects on the hard disk.
-When handling the hard disk hold it only by the edges or metal frame.
-The hard disk is sensitive to static electricity. Ensure that proper handling methods are used when installing the hard disk.
-Store in a cool, dry location.

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That link is useless. It doesn't tell us anything about the specifications of the drive (not the external housing, or the USB2 link, but the physical harddrive inside all the plastic) itself, so we can't tell if it will be usable in a PS3 or not. If it is a standard notebook-sized (2.5") SATA harddrive, 9.5mm thick (or less), it should work.

Take note, however, that larger capacity 2.5" drives (bigger than 750GB) tend to be thicker than 9.5mm. Since that is a 1TB drive, I suspect it is either one of the thicker notebook drives, or a 3.5" mechanism which definitely will not fit in the PS3.
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I upgraded my ps3 HDD to a WD scorpio 500gb.
I must say that blue screw is annoyingly crap. the screw is now completely damaged i had to replace it with a better quality screw.
Still so easy to change hdd :) Yay for more HDD space.. i hope i get more life out of my PS3 60gb to take advantage of it
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OFFTOPIC:

 

If i want to format my external HD to FAT32, in order to use it for backing up my PS3 -

 

can i do it by using the MSDOS command in Windows?

 

So far i have entered "/FS :FAT32 E:" in the command promt,

it then prompts: 'enter current volume label for drive E:'  

(i put in 'Elements' - the name of the drive),

then it prompts: 'WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK DRIVE E: WILL BE LOST!,

proceed with format? Y/N

 

Do i proceed with 'Y' ??

-- i thought it was a removable disk drive. So i havent continued with anything.

i dont wanna risk wiping my computers disk drive. I know its 'C', but still, the non-removable part has got me stumped.

 

Help?

 

1. please keep it in lamens (im a pc n00bie) :)

2. im not real interested in using programs such as swissknife, sounds too confusing :P

3. it may come up with an error after pressing Y, which may leave me to refer to point 2 :(

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i knew knowone would look at the thread all the way up here :P

 

come on guys - someone answer my question ^^

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Any one who is going to undertake this HDD swap be extreamly cerefull when unscrewing the screws.

Make sure you have the correct fitting screw driver and take your time.

The screws are in very tight and the heads of the screws strip very easily.

I striped all of mind and it not easy unscrewing thos tiny heads with pliers.

From my dealings with SCE tech support they do not supply replcment screws or HDD trays.

If you need to get a new one they told me you have to send the whole unit in as an out of waranty repair.

THen when you get it back you have to try again to take the screws out.

you have been warned.

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--Question for anyone willing to answer--

 

 If you take the hard drive out of your PS3, put it in an external USB case, then put another hard drive in your PS3 then plug in your old hard drive by USB, can you then access your movies/songs/save games on that hard drive through your PS3?

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--Question for anyone willing to answer--

 

 If you take the hard drive out of your PS3, put it in an external USB case, then put another hard drive in your PS3 then plug in your old hard drive by USB, can you then access your movies/songs/save games on that hard drive through your PS3?


 

Intersting thought. Does anyone have the answer??
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nomet wrote:

--Question for anyone willing to answer--

 

 If you take the hard drive out of your PS3, put it in an external USB case, then put another hard drive in your PS3 then plug in your old hard drive by USB, can you then access your movies/songs/save games on that hard drive through your PS3?


 

Intersting thought. Does anyone have the answer??

No you cant..... you have to make a back up through the PS3 system and then restore it..... Please read First Post

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--Question for anyone willing to answer--

 

 If you take the hard drive out of your PS3, put it in an external USB case, then put another hard drive in your PS3 then plug in your old hard drive by USB, can you then access your movies/songs/save games on that hard drive through your PS3?


 

Intersting thought. Does anyone have the answer??

No you cant..... you have to make a back up through the PS3 system and then restore it..... Please read First Post


 

 

Thanks for the answer

But unless im blind  it doesnt say anythign about this in the first post.

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Timesplitter_01 wrote:

 

No you cant..... you have to make a back up through the PS3 system and then restore it..... Please read First Post


 

 
 
 
I don't currently have any large hard drives with me at the moment, nothing that's 60gig anyway, and I don't have the patience to swap all the music and videos from it in 4 gig chunks, so what I was planning is backing up saves and stuff, then putting the drive in a case and copying it. I'll experiment anyway...
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Getting a 120GB external drive will cost u about $100 if u shop around

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No you cant put your old internal PS3 HDD into

an external case and read from it.

Tried it, didnt work, you may be able to read it

from linux, but I havnt even installed linux on

the PS3 yet.

 

Edit: Nevermind just read up, linux doesnt support

the internal file system.

source

 

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Thank you Lythinari! Better start with the 4 gig chunks now.
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LOL what happens when a file is bigger then 4G?
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LOL what happens when a file is bigger then 4G?

 

Then I suspect he can't use his 4Gb thumbdrive to transfer them?
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I've managed to get 4gig+ file onto my iPod, yes it is fat32,

but it was image'd there directly from my CD Drive.

I could be wrong and images might be something different

when it comes to fat32, but it definitely worked on the other

end.

 

Only problem is that you can't open CD media from a USB

on the PS3, so no point.

 

You could also try WinRar'ing a file onto the drive, and then

constructing it on the hard drive.

Haven't tried the WinRar technique, just tossing it out there, 

so don't get your hopes up.

 

 

Check the PS3 Ubuntu/YDL releases of linux to see if there

was any compatibility with any part of the file system.

I highly doubt it, but its worth checking it out if you havnt

already.

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Could someone please recommend me a site where I can purchase a 2.5 320+ HDD? As I live in Tasmania, the deals really aren't here so any help would be appreciated.

 

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Can I suggest www.staticice.com.au?  It's a comparative price site.  That way you can find the right supplier for your needs. 

 

A search of 2.5" 320Gb hard drive generated this:  http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=2.5%22+320Gb+hard+Drive

 

 

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FUJITSU 2.5" 320GB SATA 5400RPM HARD DISK DRIVE FOR NOTEBOOK

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Thanx deevo :)

 

I will definitely check that out, cheers. I may ever consider looking at a 500Gb one..

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is seagate the only one doing 7200rpm?
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Very informative thread.....lookng to upgrade soon..thanks for all the advice :)

 

Can this thread be pinned please.....Mod's are you there..watching......

 

Hurts me to say it...but kinda miss some MVP feedback :)

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