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Warning: Sony and I will not be held liable for any damage or loss of data when changing your HDD.

 

Welcome to the Unofficial PS3 Hard Drive Upgrade Thread

This thread was put together by Timesplitter_01 because it would seem that there seems to be a lot of questions about replacing internal hard drives and trying to use external hard drives to back things up. This thread will continuously change when more information surfaces. This thread is a combination of information gathered from all over the web in one place.

Important Questions

Q: Does replacing your PS3 void your warranty?
A: Simple answer is NO. But if you try to modify or take it apart it then this could void your warranty

Q: Will I need to keep the old 60GB internal Hard Drive?
A: Yes you will need to keep the old one in case you have to send in your PS3 for Service and you will need to put the 60GB back into the PS3

Q: Do I need to be careful with the screws?
A: This is probably the hardest bit of the whole process - trying not to strip the screws. From what I have read and watched it would seem if you get the correct size screwdrvier and apply some pressure when you are unscrewing them then it should come out fine with out stripping them

HINTS

Before we start anything I must stress that you have your DATA backup, espically your game data so that you can transfer it. The Device has to be formated in FAT32

WHAT YOU WILL NEED

1 NOTEBOOK 2.5 INCH HDD SATA ANY SIZE (We recommend staying with the same RPM as the PS3’s original HDD, 5400RPM. You can upgrade to 7200RPM, of course, but we cannot promise that it will not have ill-effects on your machine.)
1 MINI PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWDRIVER
1 MINI FLATHEAD SCREWDRIVER
1 SOLID PLACE TO WORK
1 EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE or USB (FORMATED TO FAT32)

GOOD VIDEO RESOURCE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgMSoP1sHPk

FIRST STEP- BACK UP

1. There are 2 ways to back up your data. Simple or Comprehensive

Simple

- GO to saved data utility under GAMES and press triangle and then select copy from the opitions and then select the destination
- Use the same for Music and Photos,etc
- However as Far as I know you can not save the actual game down this way eg PSN downloads

Comprehensive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJDYgQtkk5A

- Go to settings
- Select system settings
- Back up utility
- Back up

and then select the Destination. The device has to be formated in FAT32 to be recognised by the PS3. This way everything gets backed up including the PSN downloads ( I am not sure of things that are protected though eg WarHawk).

http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en...kuputility.html


STEP 2 - Removing the hard disk

Before I start this section and section 3 I would like to say that this is the work of ifmracin of the US playstation forums. He has been helping people on the USA forum out with many questions. My thanks goes out to him for creating the thread on the US playstation forums.

Anyways

1. Touch the power button on the system front for at least two seconds.The power indicator will turn solid red and the system will enter standby mode.

2. Turn off the system using the main power switch on the system rear.

3. Unplug the AC power cord and detach the other cables from
the system.

4. Remove the HDD bay cover on the system's left side. Use the space at the right edge of the HDD bay cover to pull it out from the system.If the cover is difficult to remove, gently insert asmall screwdriver in the space and pry the cover off. Be careful not to damage the system or the cover when using a screwdriver.

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/2.jpg

 

5. Free the hard disk from the system. This had 4 steps

i) Remove the blue screw with a crosshead screwdriver.

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/3.jpg

 

ii) Raise the metal handle

iii) Slide the hard disk to the right

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/4.jpg

 

iv) Use the metal handle to pull the hard disk out from the system.

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/5.jpg

 

 

STEP 3 - Replacing the Hard Disk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t5oyKgbEy0

1. Use a crosshead screwdriver to remove the screws (4 places).

IMPORTANT: These screws are very tight, be sure to find a screwdriver that fits very well, and take your time.

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/6.jpg

 

2. Remove the hard disk from the metal frame. Lift one end and slide the hard disk out to remove

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/7.jpg

 

3. Place the replacement hard disk on the PS3™ system hard disk's metal frame, and then attach using the screws (4 places).

IMPORTANT : Do not overtighten the screws.

4. Install the hard disk in the system. Fully insert the hard disk in the HDD bay, and then slide it to the left.

 

http://www.ifmracing.com/pictures/PS3/HDD/9.jpg

 

Attach the blue screw to lock the hard disk in place. Refer to the instructions for
"Removing the hard disk" in reverse order when installing.

5. Reattach the HDD bay cover.

6. Turn on the PS3™ system. Follow the on-screen instructions to perform initial setup.

STEP 4 - Restoring the back up DATA

Simple Restore ( if you did simple backup)

Just copy all the information back to where you copied it from

Comprehensive Restore (if you did Comprehensive Backup)

1. Once the PS3 has formatted your new HDD go to settings
2. Select System settings
3. Backup utility
4. Restore


Replacement hard disks

You can use hard disks of the following types with the PS3™ system:

Size 2.5 inch (internal type)*1 Interface format Serial ATA*2

*1 Proper operation is not guaranteed for all models.
*2 Parallel ATA is not supported.

2.5" form (generally refered to as a notebook drive)
Serial ATA interface, also shown as SATA
9.5mm Height

IMPORTANT: It is not recommended to sell or get rid of your factory hard drive. If you ever need to send it to Sony for repair, you are going to want to put the origional drive back in prior to sending it in.A good use for it is to get an external USB enclosure and convert it into a portable USB hard drive.

VIDEO RESOURCES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkM9wiZePfs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJDYgQtkk5A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17-1HKZSnvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEdsqS8g5f0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgMSoP1sHPk (GOOD Resource)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAM0DN4k7L4 (ALSO good)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4aRi8szadk


RESOURCES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEdsqS8g5f0

http://www.cnet.com.au/games/ps3/0,2390357...39282375,00.htm

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstatio...thread.id=32840

http://au.gamespot.com/features/6176090/index.html

Drives that Work

IMPORTANT
160GB HDD - Will give you appromatiley 130 GB out of 149 GBof space left
250 GB HDD - Will give you 205 GB of place to use out of 232GB available

http://www.bigbruin.com/2007/wdscorpio250_6

80GB 5400RPM

Fujitsu MHV2080BH 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Fujitsu MHW2080BH 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - Retail
Western Digital Scorpio WD800BEVS 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
HITACHI Travelstar 5K100 HTS541080G9SA00 (0A26924) 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
SAMSUNG FlashON HM08HHI 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
SAMSUNG Spinpoint M Series HM080JI 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
HITACHI Travelstar 5K120 HTS541280H9SA00 (0A50158) 80GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM


80GB 7200RPM

HITACHI Travelstar 7K100 HTS721080G9SA00 (0A25026) 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Seagate Momentus 7200.1 ST980825AS 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM


100GB 5400RPM

Fujitsu MHW2100BH 100GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Seagate Momentus 5400.2 ST9100824AS 100GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM


100GB 7200RPM

Seagate Momentus 7200.1 ST910021AS 100GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM


120GB 5400RPM

TOSHIBA MK1234GSX 120GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Western Digital Scorpio WD1200BEVS 120GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Seagate Momentus 5400.2 ST9120821AS 120GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Seagate Momentus 5400.3 ST9120822AS 120GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
SAMSUNG Spinpoint M Series HM120JI 120GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM


160GB 5400RPM

SAMSUNG Spinpoint M Series HM160JI 160GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Western Digital Scorpio WD1600BEVS 160GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
HITACHI Travelstar 5K160 HTS541616J9SA00 (0A28844) 160GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Seagate Momentus 5400.3 ST9160821AS 160GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Fujitsu MHW2160BH 160GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - Retail


200GB 4200RPM

TOSHIBA MK2035GSS 200GB 4200 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
HITACHI Travelstar 7K200 HTS722020K9SA00 (0A50940) 200GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM


250GB 5400RPM

SAMSUNG Spinpoint M Series HM250JI 250GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
Western Digital Scorpio WD2500BEVS 250GB 5400 RPM Serial ATA150 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

5400 Vs 7200 rpm drives

These temps were the highest temps noted w/ room temp of 78.

5400rpm - 111 degrees
7200rpm - 116 degrees

GT-HD
5400rpm - 1:42.636
7200rpm - 1:32.993
Almost 10 seconds off the install time. About 10% increase in speed.

Jericho demo
5400rpm - 2:08.629
7200rpm - 1:58.685
Again, about 10 seconds off install time. And about 8% increase in speed.

Tony Hawk demo
5400rpm - 4:11.184
7200rpm - 3:32.045
Almost 40 seconds off it's install time. Coming in at a nice 16% increase in speed.

DiRT demo
5400rpm - 1:29.289
7200rpm - 1:25.385
This one had 4 seconds shaved off. Not as good, but still about 5% increase in speed.

Notices

The hard disk is a sensitive piece of equipment and should be handled with care at all times. To help prevent software or data loss or corruption, or damage to the hard disk, carefully follow the precautions listed below:

-Do not drop the system or hard disk, or subject to physical shock or vibration.
-Do not allow liquid or small particles to get into the system or hard disk.
-Do not touch the connectors or insert foreign objects into the connectors.
-Do not place the system or hard disk close to magnetic fields such as those produced by magnets or loudspeakers. Also, do not place devices that may be sensitive to magnetic forces (such as a wrist watch or a magnetic card) near the hard disk.
-Do not put heavy objects on the hard disk.
-When handling the hard disk hold it only by the edges or metal frame.
-The hard disk is sensitive to static electricity. Ensure that proper handling methods are used when installing the hard disk.
-Store in a cool, dry location.

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AgentSimo wrote:

My Eye of Judgement save backed up just fine... but yes i would still recommend another regular back up of save games.


 

Hay thanks for your reply.

Im not sure what happened with mine then, I distintly remember redownloading everything.

Every PSN game and update, also had to do install for each game again. Weird.

WEll when the 1TB 2.5" HDD drive comes out at a reasonable price ill give it another go. :D

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well to tell you the truth i wasnt expecting to see my networks games there..... but to my surprise i had everything..... maybe its got something to do with the device that your backing up to and whats on it already?? i dunno dude... lol.

 

it seemed to backup everything for timesplitter as well.....

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Im not sure what happened with mine then, I distintly remember redownloading everything.

Every PSN game and update, also had to do install for each game again. Weird.

WEll when the 1TB 2.5" HDD drive comes out at a reasonable price ill give it another go. :D


so did i...

 

i lost all ful games, warhawk, locoroco, aqua vita, ... all demos & game data (not saves)

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I've officially joined the "More than 80gig HDD" club. Thanks to everyones advice. I went with the Seagate 160gig. 

 

They don't make those ****ing srews on the the casing easy to take out. Bit fiddly but other than that, everything was

straight forward. 

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Yeah, the screws was my road block in the process. Literally sat there for a good 10 mins or so trying to get them off and thinking of other ways to do so. Pliers did the trick though, right away. Otherwise, it was a breeze to install.
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$119 and 2hrs later I now have a 320GB HDD, that has a capacity of 298GB, with only 263GB of starting space, or something like that.  I did complete backups and I can confirm that they backup and restore all items on the HDD including copy protected items.
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Are these screws not just standard computer chassis to hard drive screws?? ... In which case, wouldn't the right size jewellers screwdriver or computer tech screwdriver do the trick??
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Are these screws not just standard computer chassis to hard drive screws?? ... In which case, wouldn't the right size jewellers screwdriver or computer tech screwdriver do the trick??

YeahI usedthe right screw driver but they are in very tight and are very soft.

You just have to be very cearful and have a set of plyers on stand-by

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I tried using three different sized jeweller's screwdrivers to try and get different kind of grips on the screws, but they just don't even budge an millimetre with normal force. I stripped one of them and I thought I'd never get it off. I couldn't believe how easily I got them all off once I got a pair of plyers and used that as the grip. I didn't even have to put that much force in the turn either. And the thing is, you don't even know which way the screw should turn in, so I wasn't sure if I was putting in unecessary force that would just strip the screw and get me no where.
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I wondering when the 500GB samsung will drop in price.
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And the thing is, you don't even know which way the screw should turn in,

Always remeber righty tighty lefty loosey

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With the screws I first tried my precision screwdrivers with no luck, but then I tried my Stanlel multi-screwdriver and they came loose first turn
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Ok, so I downloaded the Swissknife program, covered my external HDD (don't think it needed it though), and then did the comprehensive backup

 

Now looking to buy the 2.5 Internal HDD from a place in Melbourne called CPL (Computer Parts Land), pretty sure it's mentioned in this thread before

 

Anyway, Is this a good place to buy much cone? Is there hoice? and what do people recommend to buy (brand etc.)

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i would go for Seagate :smileywink: then Maxtor or Samsung ...

 

dont go Western Digital or Fugitsu

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Are these screws not just standard computer chassis to hard drive screws?? ... In which case, wouldn't the right size jewellers screwdriver or computer tech screwdriver do the trick??

computer tech screwdrivers ftw!! :smileywink: ...LOL

 

i told my boss to just hold on ill go print out the instructions... came back with it and he had already swapped it over..

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$119 and 2hrs later I now have a 320GB HDD, that has a capacity of 298GB, with only 263GB of starting space, or something like that.  I did complete backups and I can confirm that they backup and restore all items on the HDD including copy protected items.

good to see that everything backed up for you..... strange how it works well for some and not for others.....

 

what was on your external USB hard drive b4 you backed up? i had absolutly nothing on mine.....

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I was actually thinking about not upgrading, but i checked my remaining space last night (12 GB left from 40 GB)

 

Now i've only got MGS 4, Resistance and GT5 Prologue

Also have got a few Vids, and like half a dozen or so demos

 

Now obviously with all these games coming out like Star Wars, Fifa 09, Fallout 3, LBP, etc. i am definatly going to and need to upgrade

 

I wouldn't want to keep deleting stuff just to make room

I don't think 60 GB or the 80 GB models would have be enough either

 

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then join the "More than 80gig HDD club"

 

LOL, tekkenspook

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Thats the plan for tonight or tomorrow...to join this 'elite' group

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awesome..you'll be so happy.

 

hopefully it all works perfectly ...good luck :smileywink:

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I was actually thinking about not upgrading, but i checked my remaining space last night (12 GB left from 40 GB)

 

Now i've only got MGS 4, Resistance and GT5 Prologue

Also have got a few Vids, and like half a dozen or so demos

 

Now obviously with all these games coming out like Star Wars, Fifa 09, Fallout 3, LBP, etc. i am definatly going to and need to upgrade

 

I wouldn't want to keep deleting stuff just to make room

I don't think 60 GB or the 80 GB models would have be enough either

 

Message Edited by AJM84 on 08-09-2008 10:58 AM

 

I'm of similar opinion.. I know sooner or later I'm going to have to upgrade to maybe 250GB... at the moment I'm quite happy to delete old videos because I just stream them.. Demos I can live with deleting, although it seems a waste... but the game installs will force me to upsize sooner or later.

 

Videos don't bother me.. I'm a bigger fan of media streaming, than I am of storing 100s of GB of data on a PS3 only to have it sent in for repair. I can see I'm also going to soon need more external USB drives to keep up with a PC, a laptop and a PS3 which all require backing up

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