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11 Jul 2011
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What about defragmenting HDD on PS3?

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How do you do that?

 

Cannot find in XMB.

 

Any hidden menues?

 

Disk i halvfull, and numerous patches and install and erase have been performed.

On a PC it's time to defragment/compact disk.

 

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There is no defrag option for the PS3.

 

I've looked into it in the past and it's all a bit murky on the defrag side. Some say the PS3 performs a 'micro defrag' whenever you delete/install anything but I dunno. Either way, you can't.

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Thanks for instant reply.

 

Sounds strange to me.....back to the 80's kind of.

 

In the end it must give a stuttering effect when loading scenes and just poor performance.

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I know, you'd expect any HDD to fragment to some extent regardless of the OS.

 

I'm told the PS3 OS is linux based, do Linux PC's need defragmenting?

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Yes, I heard about it's Linux.

 

The early versions had an option to get access to it, an open kind of architecture.

 

Then they put a stop to that(for hacking reasons I guess).

 

I think Linux needs defragmenting as any other OS on the HDD, sooner or later.

 

But algorithms to allocate may be clever in the sense they use up the full HD with new stuff until needing to use up holes in the middle. The use of contiguous files would make that happend.

 

But at one point you cannot get a contiguous file of the size you want and it will get scattered all over the disk.

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Backup, format and restore is about the closest you'll get to it.

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C_e_r_e_b_u_s wrote:

Backup, format and restore is about the closest you'll get to it.


 

Restoring requires you to format. :smileywink:

 

And you'll need the 'full format' option for best results. Shame about the time it takes! :smileyindifferent:

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The PS3 is based off a Linux platform, and handles it's file structure in a way where the files do not become fragmented. There is no need to defragment a PS3, because they never fragment in the first place.

Also, Macs are this way too. Windows is the only one that requires defragmenting.

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shankly1985 wrote:

That was taking from here

http://community.us.playstation.com/thread/802591?start=0&tstart=0

 


 

Thanks.

 

Seems they used the principle of appending everything new on fresh space, according to posts.

 

But that also means wasting an awful lot of disk space in the end. Everything used once will never be freed unless a full contiguous block fits right in. And disk fills up much quicker.

 

Is PS3 OS really that dull and simple?

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Actually there is a secret menu. when you have the ps3 open on the xmb menu. shut it down from the turn on/off button and dont move your finger until it turns off. Switch on again not moving your finger from the button and you will hear two beeps. I had to do the same procedure from the start again because it didnt work the first time. then you will have two screens just pass them with yes and there should be a recovery menu. choose 'Rebuild the database' . It doesnt delete any game files. Just messages and some useless stuff. It made a difference in some games and the xmb menu for me. It isnt defragmentation but still something useful.

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That post on the US forums contains no hard facts as far as I can see.

As far as I am aware, -ALL- disk based operating systems and changing data storage is subject to fragmentation by very nature of the way it works - unless it were to sacrifice many GB's of space unting for free continuous whitespace.

I've asked the very same question myself in the past, and got a load of factless drivel in response.

My geuss is, it needs defragmenting and either handles it in some way, or ignores the issue and things will get fragmented and slow over time.

Hopefully, not the latter!
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Linux does fragment. I use ubuntu on my PC, and after 2 1/2 months the ext4 main partition has a whopping 0.18% fragmentation.

 

PS3 shouldn't need defragmenting, but I have noticed a massive slowdown of the XMB loading time over the last 12 months, despite the fact that the amount of free space I have staying the same. 

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I'd hate to have to take out my ps3's hdd and plug it into my pc just to defrag. So much work.......

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Thanks for comments.

 

I buy all games boxed so the amount installed on harddrive is limited.

 

But I feel a bit sorry for those using PSN downloads where 100% of game is installed on HDD. They will quickly use up their disk space.

 

And for those using it for films as well it's really sad.

 

I think it would be a good idea that recovery tools or XMB could be extended with a defragment/compact disc tool in a firmware update.

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LariosoDog wrote:

Thanks for comments.

 

I buy all games boxed so the amount installed on harddrive is limited.

 

But I feel a bit sorry for those using PSN downloads where 100% of game is installed on HDD. They will quickly use up their disk space.

 

And for those using it for films as well it's really sad.

 

I think it would be a good idea that recovery tools or XMB could be extended with a defragment/compact disc tool in a firmware update.



And that's were the cool little feature of allowing cheaper third party HDD's to be installed into your PS3 comes in real handy.....i have 320gig myself and have never looked back.......brilliant feature.

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LariosoDog wrote:

Thanks for comments.

 

I buy all games boxed so the amount installed on harddrive is limited.

 

But I feel a bit sorry for those using PSN downloads where 100% of game is installed on HDD. They will quickly use up their disk space.

 

And for those using it for films as well it's really sad.

 

I think it would be a good idea that recovery tools or XMB could be extended with a defragment/compact disc tool in a firmware update.



And that's were the cool little feature of allowing cheaper third party HDD's to be installed into your PS3 comes in real handy.....i have 320gig myself and have never looked back.......brilliant feature.


 

So instead of compacting disc and using it properly to the full formatted space - being forced to replace it much to soon with a larger HDD is a brilliant feature?

 

I do not agree.

 

I have 250G onboard as I bought my PS3 and it's halvfull only - so it's not emergency situation yet.

But I am now planning to buy some games on PSN Store and it might change quickly.

 

I would hate to see stuttering problems with games/scenes loading due to fragmented disc. I have seen it at times already but I'm not sure whether it's due to game programming or hardware.

 

It would make me wonder whether to continue playing on PS3 - and start thinking about PC-gaming actually.

 

I bought a console not to have any hardware related issues.

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