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Your Thoughts on FW 3.00

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MB Sez:

 

It's important that you read this post carefully in order to understand what I'm presenting you with here...

 

 This feedback represents a summary of what has been said in this thread. If somethingyou haveraised has not been included in this summary, first check that your problem/feedback is not covered by something else in the summary. If you still cant see it fitting in to what is listed below, it's because I know your idea is unfeasible or unreasonable, or because the feedback you gave was not useful.

 

 If you're still adamant that your feedback should be included, PM me and I'll do my best to work it out :Smile:

 

 Know this: I am only making one commitment by posting this list. That commitment is that I will pass everything listed here on to SCEE. Feature requests and bugs will be raised and Positive/Negative feedback will be presented to the relevant departments. I absolutely cannot commit to ensuring that anything here is implemented - I simply dont have enough kicking power to do that.

 

 I've got a few comments to pass of my own before the super-list, here they are:

 

  • I've seen an absolute mass of new members posting their first posts into this thread! Hello! Welcome to our community! We talk about games and stuff! We also play them, click here to find out more. Experienced members: be nice to the newbies, help them out where you can.
  • I've read every message posted in this thread over the last two days. Moshii has been feeding me tea through an IV unit which has been most helpful. Regardless, I'm really, really impressed with the way you guys have presented your thoughts and feedback, and have commented on eachothers posts. This thread is an interesting read, so thanks for that :Smile:
  • If I were to sum up your feedback in one two sentences, it would be these:
    "We like new stuff, but absolute customisation is what we want. It's our console, let us use it our way"
  • You guys rock, keep being awesome.


So, here it is:

 

The Friends List:

 

Positive Feedback:

 

  • A slider now appears when quickly scrolling through the friends list.


Negative Feedback:

 

  • The grey boxes which encase each friend are ugly and are not consistent with the design template for the rest of the XMB.
  • The grey boxes look especially ugly when lined up. Having lots of friends makes for seriously unpleasing aesthetics.


Feature Requests:

 

  • Display the total number of trophies earned by each friend underneath their ID.
  • Add an option which allows users to group their friends into user-defined categories (From FW2.70)
  • Change the way the friends list is displayed so that only the currently highlighted friend displays a grey box.

 

Bugs:

 

  • None.



The XMB

 

Postive Feedback:

 

  • Trophies appear much more quickly when the user attempts to view them
  • Navigation of the XMB is generally faster and smoother
  • The battery icon for controllers no longer covers the clock
  • The new startup display is sexier!
  • The ability to view your Internet Connection Speed is very useful for reference
  • The What's New area is a far better way of presenting information from the PlayStation Network than the Information Board
  • The ability to Copy and Paste works well, and is useful for copying links into the Browser
  • Icons seem sharper and display better on a HDTV than previously
  • Starting a game is faster
  • Accessing the XMB whilst in game is faster
  • Love the way the background blurs when a sub-menu is opened. 
  • The "unread message" icon is awesome, but needs a counter to specify how many unread messages the user has.

 

Negative Feedback:

 

  • The font size is too large, some users find this slightly insulting
  • Animations on the XMB do not appear fluent
  • Icons on the XMB are now too large
  • The design of the XMB feels disjointed and confused. The grey boxes on the friends list do not suit the rest of the design template, for example
  • There is now both an analogue AND a digital clock, which is not necessary
  • The battery meter for controllers no longer suits the design template for the XMB
  • Battery Icon for the Official Wireless Headset still overlays the clock
  • PLAYSTATION 3 Jingle no longer chimes when loading a game. Subject of much distress for many users.
  • Music now stops if the user attempts to view a friend's profile or opens anything in the settings menu.
  • PlayStation Store is now under games, which makes no sense. The store does not provide only games. It should be under Network only.
  • Last played games option doesn't restore your last session. It just starts the game.
  • Comment line is MASSIVE in comparison to the amount of text which can be used when writing a comment.
  • When in game, the XMB presents ALL options to the user, rather than just those which can actually be used whilst in game.
  • Dynamic backgrounds can be turned off for each individual user, but cannot be turned off on the user selection screen. No matter what, every console now logs on to be greeted with glitter.
  • The status bar overlays half the screen when displayed in Standard Definition
  • What's new takes too long to load, making it unworth the hassle
  • The PlayStation Store is far too intrusive now and makes PlayStation reek of marketting.


Feature Requests:

 

  • Add an option to change the display size of the XMB, including font and icon size. Small, Medium and Large.
  • Add an option which allows the user to specify where notification messages are displayed (FW2.80)
  • Remove the PlayStation Store icon from the GAME menu.
  • Add the ability for the 'Last played' section to restore the session of the most recently played game.Similar to the PSP's hibernate function.
  • Add an RSS reader to the XMB, allowing the user to define which RSS feeds they want to read.
  • Change thein game XMB so that only options which can be used during gameplay are available
  • Add the option to change the theme at the user selection screen
  • Add an option to optimise the XMB display for SD screens.
  • Add the 'copy multiple' option to the Save Game Data utility to making backing up save data easier
  • Add an option to 'fade-out' the XMB after a user-specified time of no input. This would result in the XMB fading away to leave only the background. An especially good way to show off your animated backgrounds~!
  • Add the battery indicator for controllers and headsets to the status bar on the XMB, then stop it displaying as a seperate icon when the PS button is pressed.
  • Add the ability to apply on specific parts of a theme. For example the icons only, or the font only.
  • Add a counter to display exactly how many unread messages a user has.


Bugs:

 

  • None

 

 

BBC iPlayer

 

Positive Feedback:

 

  • iPlayer no longer stutters during playback
  • Bigscreen interface works well with a HD screen
  • Bigscreen is easy to use with a DUALSHOCK/SIXAXIS controller

 

Negative Feedback:

 

  • Bigscreen interface is extremely difficult to use on an SDTV, as the user cannot 'zoom out' in order to view the full screen.

 

Feature Requests:

 

  • Add the ability to zoom out when using the Bigscreen interface OR
  • Add an option to display the Bigscreen interface in a way which is suitable for SDTVs.
  • Add the option to download content, rather than streaming it.

 

Bugs:

 

  • The iPlayer icon sometimes does not display for users

 

 

Other

 

Positive Feedback:

 

  • Animated Backgrounds are super-cool
  • The ability to designate multiple sound outputs is extremely useful for sound management.
  • Love the ability to use the Right Analogue Stick to control fast forward/rewind

 

Negative Feedback:

 

  • Why no animated backgrounds available for SCEE territories at launch?
  • The PS3 Browser STILL doesn't work properly with our forum.
  • Bavia Sync cannot be used on older models of the PS3

 

Feature Requests:

 

  • Add the option to choose whether the 'PS3 Slim' or 'PLAYSTATION 3' logo on startup
  • Improve the Browser to enable full use of our forum
  • Add the ability to use BRAVIA Sync on older, more obese consoles.
  • Add the ability to play PlayStation 2 titles on all consoles.
  • Add the ability to view the 'PlayTV' Guide from the XMB's TV menu


Bugs

 

  • The "Display [What's New]" setting does not work. Even when set to 'off', What's New is displayed regardless.




Quotes of the Thread:

 

This was something simply to keep me sane, and to give you lot an overview of what the rest of the community has been saying...

 

Sjths

"Its OK, but it feels like it has been dumbed down for the wider market that Sony is going after.

 

XMB:  'Here is the game you were playing last night'.

Me:     'I know, I was there, my memory ain't that bad!'"

 

Milky_08

"Own up come on whos been feeding my icons chocolate with no exercise."

 

Flein

"So. Nice update. Too much focus on the marketing division, who suck, along with their interest groups. I doubt very much that anyone reasonably sane will vouch for the duplication of the Playstation store icons all over."

 

doby_p

"Its not so much the grey boxes i dont like (they are kinda growin on me), its the way they stack up into one big block taking up half the screen. It would be better if they were seperated slightly just to break it up a little."

 

Neo-Delta

"Whats New..? - Great way of diving into your last 3 played games and news about the PlayStation Nation. Much better then the old news ticker! Although the new ticker still isnt up in SCEE regions yet...US and JPN have it guys... :Frown:"

 

Global_Inferno

"It just frustrates me that Sony seem to be keeping tight-lipped about the features that everyone wants; where is the cross-game chat? I know it was never "expected" in 3.00, but no news at all!? People are screaming for it day in, day out... Sony should at least say where they stand on the whole issue."

 

DiggyAndJoBo

"And please, for crying out loud, respect the majority of other European nations and stop giving them useless functions they obviously can't use and try giving them something they can instead."

 

Dweezy91:

 "A more customizable experience would be great  :Smile:

 

That's one of the things I love about PS3, is the customization options. Instead of making the "Original" XMB the newer one without sparkles, let us choose exatcly what we want."

 

 

Much Love,

 

MB


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Your Thoughts on FW 3.00 p.s. Don't SHOUT!!!

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One thing that would be massively appreciated would be a universal "screen size" adjustment option under the Display settings...

 

Currently almost everything on the console is offset from the sides of the screen (most aparrant on the picture viewer and web browser)... it doesn't effect games very much (and thankfully, a lot of games feature a screen size changing option within their options menues), but it has been an iritation for quite some time.

 

I doubt this is the case on all TVs, but I've seen it do this on 4 seperate sets so far!

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RingforService schreef:

I haveother grumbles (the sparkly thing going on) but that's not major.


You can disable that in the 'theme settings', and you can almost set it back to the 2.8 flowing background (known as 'classic' if I'm not mistaken), except for the color (at least the few minutes I checked it I couldn't get rid of the purple color)..
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The OP covers it all basically the message here is CHOICE

 

  • I Like the original "PLAYSTAION 3" Logo @ console startup & before a game executes on my UK 60GB & JP MGS Hagane Machines, I understand the "rebranding Stategy" but I have not as yet purchased a PS3 Slim, why FORCE the slim's Logo on me?
  •  The font Issue is understandable on certain Large TV sets, I don't (yet) have this problem, but the new font size makes the text too large, again why force this wholesale change without options?

The update on the whole was fine and well received however for some users it seems as things that were not issues have been "fixed"
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I cannot see anything wrong with the 3.00 update. I think everything is faster and I dont see why people complain about the "ugly" friends list, it's not like you have to look at it all day..

 

Well done Sony, a free service and if you add private voice chat and a party system I can see it becoming more popular then Xbox Live...and it's free. 

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Fantastic news that Sony are willing to take negative feedback, after all it is for the improvement of the entire system, and thus the PS Brand.

Two things I haven't seen mentioned are.

* I'm not sure why Sony felt the need to add 'Sparkles' to an awesome background, and glad that there is a classic option. However it has me thinking that maybe Sony could add an option for 'Animations' under 'Theme Settings' so you can actually add the 'Sparkles' to whatever static image you have set as a background. You would obviously expand of the animations, by creating lots of variations.

How cool would it be to have an official Heavy Rain background image, with animated rain?!

* I'm still confused as to why Sony removed the 'Playstation 3' splash screen from the beginning of PS3 games? Especially considering as the games don't actually start up any quicker and instead of the cool jingle we are left staring at a blank screen. Also what will Sony put on the adverts now?
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BloodEye wrote:

Also what will Sony put on the adverts now?



They could talk to the Psygnosis- guys, and record a "Play-station" in the zone- announcer voice :D

btw,
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/09/q-games-update-star-dust-dynamic-themes-our-favorite-little-t...
The Super Stardust devs came up with the sparklies. ..That's truly shocking.
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I haz found a bug (Load Clock icon thing won't go away ingame)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rT15FXX3Fg

 

It's only happened once - yet tis quite annoying. Read description for better explanation of ma problem

 

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im not 100% sure if this was added in 3.0,but im sure it wasnt there before(maybe MB can confirm if it was added in 3.0)

the echo cancellation feature in audio device settings is a cool feature

if you go to audio device settings then input device settings and push triangle,it tells you to place your mic infront of the speaker then press start,it will then play a weird noise thru your speakers to the mic which will filter out the echo you get from your speakers,

theres nothing worse than hearing the echo from people's speakers when playing online so this is an awsome feature to have
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TamKing wrote:
im not 100% sure if this was added in 3.0,but im sure it wasnt there before(maybe MB can confirm if it was added in 3.0)

the echo cancellation feature in audio device settings is a cool feature

if you go to audio device settings then input device settings and push triangle,it tells you to place your mic infront of the speaker then press start,it will then play a weird noise thru your speakers to the mic which will filter out the echo you get from your speakers,

theres nothing worse than hearing the echo from people's speakers when playing online so this is an awsome feature to have

The problem is, is they Sony don't tell anyone about these features.

 

A while ago when the FW updated it would list EVERY change, now they just list 3 bigger features and leave it, a prime example is with FW 2.80, that changed quite a few things but none of it was documented. They should read patch notes for World of Warcraft to see how it's done ;)

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i agree sony should list every feature of a firmware update,or even if someone like MB could post a list of everything thats been added in the latest update on the forum would be a big help in finding out whats new
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Lol, if you ever want to know whats new just find a list of the least requested features (or maybe features that no-ones ever even asked for) and that will be the new stuff.

 

The most requested features will have been put off again until sometime in the future....PS4 maybe

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Lol, if you ever want to know whats new just find a list of the least requested features (or maybe features that no-ones ever even asked for) and that will be the new stuff.

 

The most requested features will have been put off again until sometime in the future....PS4 maybe


Ditto, This is my first post abroad and I love to laugh at the truth of this statement.. we should all expect
"Due Diligence" on the part of a company providing System Software Updates that are tied to EULA.

 

Really what choice do we have if we install an update without knowing the benifits, or see a complete Disclosure list of games/features that have been throughly tested before going into release.  Has this update been throughly tested?  Seems to me it has not simply because of page one's llst. 

 

In the US, our XMB has a feature called "Information Bar" that scrolls SPAM 24/7, if your system can manage to stay on that long.  You don't even need to log on to PSN, but it's there.  You think the "What's New" is intrusive? 

 

Anyhow, as user/owners we deserve more respect and support of a gloabal company forcing us to accept terms without disclosure: or eles we don't play online with one another, or our games become antiquate keepsakes. The bottom line with Sony today, you either conform or leave.  The middle ground makes us all look like silly children begging mum and dad for a cookie.  I laugh because I see the suits of Sony grandstanding as if childrens in a play, falling all over themselves and missing the cue. yet I cant applaude their efforts because they are not innocent children, they are a corporate, for profit business that feels no guilt nor responsibility to the customer base they abuse  with EULA, HDCP, and Copy Protected Gamesaves.  All of which, should be a good thing but hamper the honest end user with a bricked system or incompatible, beta quality, update

 

Leaving on a good note, I wish to thank the OP for his diligence to the topic and to you for your attention to the long post.

 

yippie kay yay :Thumbs:

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The possibility to change the text color on the XMB, because it's the most obvious and boring thing on the PS3 if you change the wallpaper.
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Bugs: Internet crashes alot, on different sites. Last sign-in time from friends doesn't update properly.
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I'm only asking for one thing... okay, maybe two or more.

 

I want the "Red Stripes" as a background!

 

What the hell are the "Red Stripes"? You know, those wavy red stripes that move across the screen at the end of most PS3 videos from the PS Store and the PS Blogs.

 

I want dynamic themes too, along with the dynamic backgrounds that 3.0 brought.

 

I want user created dynamic backgrounds and themes also.

 

I want the ability to mix and match themes and backgrounds. ^_^

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  3.0 firmware update issues........   i hate the new friends list, atleast fade the ones out who are not highlighted just like the rest of the xmb does..

 

in fact how about fading the whole xmb out so we can enjoy our new animated themes (if we ever get them)

 

get rid of the extra ps store icon under game, just no need for it

 

where's that ding gone when i start a game it just feels wrong....

 

no in game chat,,,, i wont hold my breadth for it

 

custom avatars And animated themes not available on release of 3.0

 

internet browser is still the worst iv used my ipod is faster i can't even access my hotmail account...

 

 

 

BUGS AND FIXES......

 

no sound on vidzone after update

 

BBC iplayer keeps disappearing

 

friends appear offline when they are online

 

after i quit a game the screen reverts to standard definition its happened a few times its annoying

 

 

 

FUTURE UPDATES

 

cross game chat

 

change font size on xmb

 

fix the browser, its useless

 

passwords for user profiles not just for internet

 

ability to deactivate multiple ps3 from one ps3

 

firmware updates to run in the background

 

live updates of when my friends get a trophy or get a new high score, like on little big planet you get updates on your friends scores. And be able to turn them off of course

 

user comment space needs to be bigger nothing to big just a sentence or two

 

updates for the playstation eye  there are no games for it And an update for the video editing suite would be nice

 

why not have a report an issue option either in the xmb options or on the ps3 browser so we can submit our problems or feedback directly to the right people so we don't have to scour the net posting comments And complaining to the wrong people

 

xmb fade out so we can look at our animated themes

 

most of all we need customization be it the xmb, theme, start up screen, friends list, chat room, why do you think the iphone is so popular it offers complete customizability even more so when jailbroken

 

hope SCEE do get to see these comments and actually start to take note...    p.s.   why the fu*% are we still waiting for AAA ps1 games on the ps store when america had them months ago and there still adding more and more every week....  yet again eu left in the cold!!!!!
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All sony are going to do are listen to a bunch of kids with no real grasp of reality,the larger font is great,the multi audio is brilliant,everything else was pointless. battery covering clock(ye 4 2 seconds)friends list is ugly(why is it in a beauty contest)sony are movin as slow as they can give them a break(sarcasim)
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When a notification appears, whether it be a message, chat invitation or download completion, pressing the PS button on the controller should automatically redirect the user the appropriate section of the XMB.
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Sony,

 

I thought this one would be the breakthrough, but sadly no...

 

Still no SKYPE! why are we still using that messaging system, its really awkward and difficult to navigate.

Also, i can only talk to people with Playstations... why... i could do a nice bit of advertising for you guys if i were talking to loads of people on their PC's telling them how much nicer it is sat on my sofa rather than up at my desk!

 

On a positive, the design is great, alot prettier, but bring back the old Playstation3 logo!

 

Finally, when are we gonna get that long awaited Infra red support, so that we can turn the ***** thing on with a universal remote??

 

Thanks for listening.

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