on 31-12-2009 05:02 PM
I think the graphics are fine and its the game-play that keeps me coming back for more not which engine is running the game.
on 31-12-2009 08:01 PM
super_monty wrote:I think the OP needs a re-think.
Personally many of the games across the platforms with successful multiplayer have good to excellent 1 player so I don't see the problem so far....
Halo 3
PGR
Resistance
Motorstorm
LBP
SF4
CIV REV
BUZZ
Singstar
Gears of War
Mario Kart
COD
......if you don't like it don't play it.
When the mutiplayer actually detracts from campaign then it will be worth complaining.
I own COD MW2, the OP mentions loads of 12 year olds, which I find strange I play the multiplayer (on the 360) for a few hours a week and tend to mostly play over 18's even over 25's and most of my regular friends are over 30.
Many people like myself with families enjoy a quick blast on multiplayer games such as gears, cod Warhawk etc because we often don't have much time to sit down and play long games. Hence having a quick blast on a multiplayer is a good way for us older gamers to catch up and actually get a chance to use our consoles, so perhaps you need to re-think some of your comments.
Halo 3's single player sucked ![]()
PGR single player sucked ![]()
Resistance sucked ![]()
Motorstorm single player sucked ![]()
SF4 has the worst single player ever ![]()
Buzz you can't really say has a single player ![]()
COD single player sucked ![]()
Like I said single player BASED games are 100x better than Multiplayer based games
Single player based:
Bioshock
GTA IV
Uncharted
Uncharted 2
Assassin's Creed 2
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Multiplayer based:
Call of Duty 4
Call of Duty MW2
Warhawk
Resistance
Resistance 2
Killzone 2
recurring theme? Guns in multiplayer ![]()
on 31-12-2009 08:49 PM
IXIScorpioIXI wrote:
super_monty wrote:I think the OP needs a re-think.
Personally many of the games across the platforms with successful multiplayer have good to excellent 1 player so I don't see the problem so far....
Halo 3
PGR
Resistance
Motorstorm
LBP
SF4
CIV REV
BUZZ
Singstar
Gears of War
Mario Kart
COD
......if you don't like it don't play it.
When the mutiplayer actually detracts from campaign then it will be worth complaining.
I own COD MW2, the OP mentions loads of 12 year olds, which I find strange I play the multiplayer (on the 360) for a few hours a week and tend to mostly play over 18's even over 25's and most of my regular friends are over 30.
Many people like myself with families enjoy a quick blast on multiplayer games such as gears, cod Warhawk etc because we often don't have much time to sit down and play long games. Hence having a quick blast on a multiplayer is a good way for us older gamers to catch up and actually get a chance to use our consoles, so perhaps you need to re-think some of your comments.
Halo 3's single player sucked
PGR single player sucked
Resistance sucked
Motorstorm single player sucked
SF4 has the worst single player ever
Buzz you can't really say has a single player
COD single player sucked
Like I said single player BASED games are 100x better than Multiplayer based games
Single player based:
Bioshock
GTA IV
Uncharted
Uncharted 2
Assassin's Creed 2
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Multiplayer based:
Call of Duty 4
Call of Duty MW2
Warhawk
Resistance
Resistance 2
Killzone 2
recurring theme? Guns in multiplayer
You thinly veiled disgust at Call of Duty had been well documented multiple times on here, Scorpio, and of course you are entitled to your opinion.
Firstly, to say that Call of Duty has forced all games to include a multiplayer element is quite frankly the biggest crock of BS I've heard in many a moon.
I would say if any games pushed an online element to the fore it would more likely be Halo 2, Half Life, and Star Wars: Battlefront.... all before COD 4...indeed COD 3 multiplayer wasn't a massive success. so I think it would be fair to say that COD4 MP was a restart (irrespective of whether IW or treyarch did COD3).
Secondly, I still think that Uncharted 2 is a worthy winner to GOTY on the strength of it's single player alone; even if it's Multiplayer modes get too much coverage for what is a distinctly mediocre online playing experience.
Thirdly, Bioshock 2 will be a massive flop for gamers if it's single player storyline is rubbish. Also, you talk about Assassin's Creed 2 being 100X better than multiplayer games.... again you're entitled to your opinion, but have you played the first Assassin's Creed - basically a glorified advert for Next-gen graphics?
Batman wouldn't really work as an online game anyway.... given that there is only one Batman it kind of restricts the game types you could play. Also you forget that Batman is one of those rare breeds - a super-hero licensed game that actually works.
Basically, you're trying to stoke an argument by using the word 'multi-player' or 'online' in place of 'FPS'
But if we stay on your 'multiplayer' games are ruining the world theme, I'd like to throw in
Burnout Paradise
Singstar
Guitar Hero
Rock Band
Operation Flashpoint
Little Big Planet
PES, FIFA and it's related franchises.
Now let's go to single-player based games
Devil May Cry 4
Sonic Unleashed
At least the last Tomb Raider games
All of which are established single-player franchises, and aren't exactly earth-shatteringly great.
Sure, just like statistics, if you choose the right games, you can prove any point you want.
If you want a recurring theme, try this one - You don't like Call of Duty...and hey we get it...everyone's different... But do you know what? - No-one is really bothered if you like COD, or Resistance, or Uncharted.
But you really need to improve your Signal-to-Noise ratio....because your 'I hate COD' message is just blending into the static now.
on 01-01-2010 01:18 AM
on 01-01-2010 01:31 AM
Multiplayer doesn't affect that single player.
As many has said, Uncharted 2 had an amazing single player and a mediocre multiplayer.
You're getting an image from Call of Duty.
Call of Duty 4's campaign was decent.
Call of Duty World at War's campaign was OK but a little repetitive and boring.
Modern Warfare 2's campaign is really but ridiculous how short it is. The multiplayer isn't even that good.
Bioshock 2 is getting multiplayer, but I don't believe for a second that the single player will suck.
Resistance 2, that had a great campaign, online was kinda crap.
MGS4 has online, campaign... It can't be called crap.
I know where you're getting all this, but think multiplayer as a little bonus.
Games that have been succesful with single player will most likely keep on the greatness of it.
on 01-01-2010 08:33 AM
on 02-01-2010 01:58 AM
multiplayer like someone else said is a good addition to most games,as it can add depth,ok its not everyone's cup of tea,but it up to the individual whether they use online features,most games these days need the online aspect,as the story mode can be to short,would you rather not have online access and a short game ,therfore feeling shortchanged,ok i agree that nowadays the online multiplayer part of the game takes over ,but personally i like to complete the game mostly before i go online so as i have some level of understanding of the game,i wouldnt worry to much about the games you mentioned just dissapearing if there good enough they will stand the test of time!!!!
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