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nx13
Posts: 1,354
Registered: ‎14-02-2011
Message 31 of 59 (186 Views)

Re: Ageism :-(

I don't think I know more than I do.. and I've never once mentioned intelligence.

Maturity is different than intelligence.
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Spirit0fLight
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Registered: ‎11-02-2008
Message 32 of 59 (177 Views)

Re: Ageism :-(

I'm 25 - and I love the "kids" games i.e. Ratchet & Clank. Sly etc..

I am guessing Beta testers are just picked at random. Even seen some with less than 50 posts and are testers.

I joined back in February 2008 and that has not made a difference either, so I dunno. Probably posting in threads like this mean they have to stop us from ever being testers. Ha, that would be funny.
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Re: Ageism :-(

Mature people don't tend to jump up &  down like puppies claiming be be so.
I'm 35 & embrace my immaturity.

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fauxtronic
Posts: 188
Registered: ‎11-03-2012
Message 34 of 59 (154 Views)

Re: Ageism :-(

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IrishViper1 wrote:
You can't sign a contract legally under the age of 18 end of,also anyone under 18 is just stupid and that is a fact including those of us who have been there even do we thought we knew everything we knew nothing.Not that there is anything wrong with being stupid I'm forty and I've learnt to live with it. In reality anyone below the age of thirty is far from intelligent ,they think they are but their not even half boiled at that age and yes I mean each and everyone of you,whilst not all are totally stupid the majority are . Now play with your Barbie and stop giving out that your not old enough to make the rules the way you want them.

 

The OP is very articulate and comes across as more mature than some.  Even if you disagree with his message, he raises some interesting points.

 

Ultimately though:

 

  • It is legal to enter into a contract with a minor. See here. You just have significantly fewer legal protections than if you entered the same agreement with an adult so depending on what's at stake, many legal advisors will advise against it.
  • Most companies get around the problem by entering into a contract with the parent or guardian.  Ie. The parent/guardian is legally responsible for the behaviour of the minor.

 

The law is such a a$$ that I'm not sure some analogies drawn here are so sound.  Plenty of 16 and 17 year olds in the UK can get married without parental consent (oh hello Gretna Green!) and if you're not a resident of Scotland, your marriage is still perfectly valid in England and Wales if you travel there to get hitched.

 

Fact is, the law is unjust to 16 and 17 year olds in many respects.  It has always bugged the hell out of me that people in this age group can get married or die for their country, but cannot vote... or beta test computer games apparently.

 

It seems more wise to complain to government than Sony though, really.

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Re: Ageism :-(

The problem is I imagine a signifigant portion of said age groups votes could be "bought" for a free chesseburger voucher at McDonalds.

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fauxtronic
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Registered: ‎11-03-2012
Message 36 of 59 (140 Views)

Re: Ageism :-(

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That's not a "problem". That's "stereotyping".

16 year olds can vote in various states around the world, some with conditions (like being employed), some with none. Nineteen states in the US allow 17 year olds to vote in primary elections. I have yet to see any evidence that votes among this demographic are being traded for cheeseburgers. Or anything else for that matter.

Besides, electoral fraud is mainly the speciality of people who are significantly above 18 years of age. Think more along the lines of 30 upwards.

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Re: Ageism :-(

I didn't imply stereo typing, I said a signifigant proportion.  Even only 5% is a signifigant proportion when it comes to one age group & voting.

 

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fauxtronic
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Message 38 of 59 (110 Views)

Re: Ageism :-(

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Where is the evidence that a "significant proportion" of this age-group would be more likely to trade votes for cheeseburgers? Or trade votes for anything at all, for that matter?

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michelle_tabor
Posts: 3,851
Registered: ‎01-01-2011
Message 39 of 59 (92 Views)

Re: Ageism :-(

there has to be a cut off and there will always be some people that are, perhaps unfairly, losing out. (Most) of the laws in this country deem you not to be an adult until you are 18.

There are 18 year olds, and tbf 30 year olds, that are far too immature to be voting, drinking, getting married etc but they are allowed to do so.
There are 16 year olds that are certainly mature enough but cannot, it seems unfair but there has to be a point when you are considered adult that will be about right for the majority of the population.

I think it's a bit stupid that at 16 you can get a girl pregnant but not marry her (unless you go to scotland), join the army but not have a say in the goverment that controls them, leave home but find it impossible to rent.
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Re: Ageism :-(

Hmm I do not know ... on some games you find people not ageist at all ... in fact they very keen to talk to young people for strange reason :smileyindifferent:
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