on 19-10-2009 09:00 PM
All the fanboy jokes and 'What do you want me to do about it?' comments aside, i do actually wonder how many customers out there in the real world (not on these forums) Sony have lost due to the refurb exchange price.
Im the only person with a PS3 that i know personally who comes on these forums, but i do know of 3 people who have had YLOD, phones Sony, got told of the price of a refurb, and decided it was way overpriced and ended up selling there console for spares and bought an XBox 360.
Infact, my nephew has done just that, this weekend gone.
Putting the anti Microsoft jibes aside, i wonder how many have decided to move to the Xbox when they weighed up the price options and Warrenty.Not just here, but worldwide.
probably less than have come the other way from Xbox to PS3, truth is i dont know anybody personally that has suffered from YLOD but i know about 8 people that have suffered from RROD, at least half of the Xbox guys have had it more than once as well, and thay all decided to buy a PS3 instead lol
i agree it sucks that both 360 AND PS3 have an issue regarding heat, cant deny that but we live in a world where we always want faster and companies have to make profit so everything in these machines get made by the lowest bidder. companies that can provide the cheapest capacitors that are just about up to the job, same with diodes etc.
SONY and Microsoft could quite easily make a super next gen console that had no heat issues whatsoever using nothin but the highest quality innards and cooling setups but the trouble is many people said PS3 was too expensive at £425 when it launched, what will people do if the companies involved went ahead and made a super near as dammit fault free console that cost possibly twice what consoles do anyway?.
people wouldnt buy it because it will be too expensive simple as, SONY or Microsoft loose tons more money than they do anyway on each machine and eventually they pull out of the console market and we all get stuck with the wii.
the affordable technology for speed is producing more heat than the affordably technology for cooling can cope with.
both of these companies are pushing things as far as possible for a reasonable amount of money, both consoles pack a serious amount of power (just play uncharted 2 for proof with PS3) while trying to be as small as possible. compare the space inside a PS3 or 360 to the space of a normal sized PC tower.
hopefuly by the next generation of PS4 the new Xbox and whatever cheesy tripe nintendo come up with next the cooling tech will have caught up. but until then im gonna play uncharted 2 in a room thats not too hot, far away from a radiator with the sound up loud LOL
on 19-10-2009 09:05 PM
Guys! This guy is raising a valid point. Just because it has been raised many a time before - doesn't mean it's an invalid argument.
I'd much rather see this guy stay with us than the people who just tell him to go away; at least he's trying to make his concerns known - because I wonder how many of you who tell him to buzz off, will be grinning and happy when you have to pay over a hundred quid for quick repair job?
on 19-10-2009 09:14 PM
The YLOD is at a 0.5% failure rate.
Its nowhere near to becoming a RLOD problem.
I'm sorry but I find that difficult to believe. If there is a source that is 100% sure and it provides the evidence I am more then happy to admit I was completely wrong but I jut can't believe that as numerous forums seem to get numerous YLOD threads daily.
Is that reliable enough? Or I suppose they are just fabricating the statistics to protect their financial asset. Which must mean the in truth the YLOD is at a 20% failure rate... Right?
It might be a failure rate for the U.K alone, but even if it is.... Its indicative to a small failure rate globally, rather than anything like 35% or whatever it is for 360.
on 19-10-2009 09:19 PM
on 19-10-2009 09:49 PM
me and 4 of my friends have all bought ps3's and traded in the 360s in the last couple of months, i was living in fear of red rings and the others all suffered from it.
im much more confident in my ps3 than i ever was in my 360
on 19-10-2009 10:26 PM
on 19-10-2009 10:31 PM
Exactly! Every single Playstation console will die, no matter what, even if it's only just been made, it going to die! They probably have a 99.99% failure rate. All PS3's will die!!!!!11111one!1one
If it suits the company they will twist the figure to prove whatever they want, It would make no sense for Sony to come out and say "Right, the failure rate for the 60GB model is 30/40/50 etc. percent." And even Microsoft denied the failure rate until pressed hard enough. The only way the true figure will come to light is if a proper investigation is done which looks at the number of sold 60GB compared to the number of replaced/reported broken 60GB's...And I don't think that'll happen anytime soon tbh.
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