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29 Jun 2007
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Are these people having a laugh or what?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20070629/tuk-legal-challenge-to-smoking-ban-dba1618.html

You want to smoke. Great.

You have a right to kill yourself but you have no rights in a public place to kill anyone else, which it sort of like using a gun and putting it to someones head, pulling the trigger and it not going off because there is no bullet, or potentially going off years later, and you are not even there holding the gun.

Sorry, but I want to go to public places and enjoy a meal, drink, anything, without the smokers, who more often than not don't even smoke what they hold in there hands, because they are too busy drinking or chatting to realise they have a lit one in there fingers.
Then 5 minutes later, light up another one.

I had it once in a restaurant, a women behind me lit up, decided she didn't want the cigarette in her face, so put it behind her so all the smoke came my way.
I asked her politely if she wouldn't mind moving it, and her friend went into a hissy fit, having a go at me and I was being nice.
If that is the sort of person who wants to smoke in a public place and have no respect for those who don't smoke, then god help us.

Yes, people may say it's there right to smoke, but sorry, it's there right to drink as well, but that only kills them, not me. I can choose whether I want to drink or not, but with smokers, I can only choose whether I want to enter that pub or restaurant, not whether I can or can't breath it in. If the smoke is there, it's likely I'll breath it in.

It's bad enough with my new neighbours who smoke like crazy, and it's not just cigarettes, and can't even have the windows open. So i'm trapped in my own home, and you guys want to stop me going out in public too.

Get a grip. It's not just you that wants to enjoy the public places.

Discuss on what you think about this?
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And these same people have no problems supporting the government and companies -- so that makes them themselves responsible for the slaying and killing of numerous civilians, babies and what not in the Middle East. But that's down there, right?


Our actions aren't the direct cause of the death in that case. Smokers are genuinely killing people with their smoke. Those things can't genuinely be compared.
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Went out clubbing last night, and considering only about two people out of a good 30 of us in the group smoke, and I don't talk to them, my clothes stink of smoke. It's horrible, hopefully this ban will stop people smoking.
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Maybe we should ban driving because of the emissions they give off. No? Didn't think so.
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Couldn't help but "awwwwww" at that line.

Mr C not like a bit of the wacky backy?

Nope. And my girlfriend has health issues from surgery years ago, that really does affect her a lot more than me, and with wanting to try for a baby, I really don't want it at all.

I just can't stand smoking. I hate the smell. I hate it when my clothes smell. I hate it that it hurts my eyes, throat and the fact that most smokers seem to have a habit of moving the cigarette away from them and in the face of other people. Very inconsiderate.
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Selfishness? Well honestly, the hypocrisy doesn't even amaze me... ``Oh we don't want to be killed by second hand smoke.'' And these same people have no problems supporting the government and companies -- so that makes them themselves responsible for the slaying and killing of numerous civilians, babies and what not in the Middle East. But that's down there, right? Second hand smoke is bad, but being a murderer by proxy, heck, we just shrug that off. No wonder this p**sses off smokers. :) BTW I don't smoke. I personally do not support the government. I just support this particular legislation that is being brought in. I also don't understand how, by supporting this legislation, we support companies. What companies? Mikk, driving a car is a lot different as driving a car is often needed in order to get to a job and earn the money that people have to live off. Smoking is something people do for enjoyment - yet don't have to. It also wastes a lot of hard earned cash.
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Maybe we should ban driving because of the emissions they give off. No? Didn't think so.

Where are you going to get your food from then? Driving is a necessity in today's world; smoking never has been and never will be. You will not die if you don't smoke. (Unless you're so depressed you commit suicide)
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Maybe we should ban driving because of the emissions they give off. No? Didn't think so.
yes, thats a good idea. and rickshaws need a revival.
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Smokings fine, just do it in your home and not in my face.

I mean, I like a **** but I don't do it in your face.
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Our actions aren't the direct cause of the death in that case. Smokers are genuinely killing people with their smoke. Those things can't genuinely be compared.
LOL, that's what I mean with easily shrugging off your responsibilities, thanks for illustrating it.
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LOL, that's what I mean with easily shrugging off your responsibilities, thanks for illustrating it.

So what is my responsibility exactly? What should I be doing to save people?
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Mega City One has got it spot on. Smoking is banned everywhere apart from one building. It's called 'The Smokatorium'
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Went out clubbing last night, and considering only about two people out of a good 30 of us in the group smoke, and I don't talk to them, my clothes stink of smoke. It's horrible, hopefully this ban will stop people smoking.

Yeah it only takes one person to be smoking next to you for a small amount of time, then thats it, your clothes are officialy "Smokeyfied." Get rid of the smokers, theres no point to it.
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good, i hope they get somewhere with this, i don't care about you haters who don't like smoking, i want my freedom to smoke where i want. Go in your garage, lock the garage door and turn on the car engine. If you're going to kill someone when breathing in smoke, it may as well be yourself.
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I was pretty neutral about this ban coming into place. I mean, I don't smoke but I wasn't all that bothered about it.

When I came back from the pub last night though stinking of smoke, it made me realise how much second hand smoke I probably inhaled and how much damage may have been caused by second hand smoke over the years.

It's a good move. They're not banning smoking, just making more of a clean divide in a world where non-smokers have always suffered at a smokers expense.
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So what is my responsibility exactly?
Well if you don't see that, don't bother looking any further.

Don't get me wrong, I got a no smoking sign on my house -- but I think it should be a matter of choice, that's all. All the money that is spent on discussing it, enforcing bans and all... (And what's next? Alcohol? Sex before marriage? Anything else people think is 'fun' but is possible unhealthy for the society as a whole?)

This social exclusion thing that seems to be going, I have reservations about that....
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Well if you don't see that, don't bother looking any further.

If you stopped being so bloody vague about the points you're trying to make I wouldn't be asking questions about it.
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Well if you don't see that, don't bother looking any further. Don't get me wrong, I got a no smoking sign on my house -- but I think it should be a matter of choice, that's all. All the money that is spent on discussing it, enforcing bans and all... (And what's next? Alcohol? Sex before marriage? Anything else people think is 'fun' but is possible unhealthy for the society as a whole?) This social exclusion thing that seems to be going, I have reservations about that.... Don't worry, they can make money spent on advertising the ban by pushing up tax on cigarettes. :)
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Smoking sucks, it should be banned everywhere. =/
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As CHB has sort of pointed out. It's not a total ban. So what are smokers complaining about? It's just a ban in ENCLOSED public spaces.
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Don't get me wrong, I got a no smoking sign on my house -- but I think it should be a matter of choice, that's all.


So you think people should have a choice, but you won't allow to smoke regardless of their choice? Strange.
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Bit of second hand smoke never hurt anyone :p Nah, seriously, I don't wanna breathe in other people's crap. Ban = good thing.
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