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19 Apr 2012
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They have finally linked computer games to the Norweigian serial killer - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132002/Anders-Behring-Breivik-trial-Norway-killer-wanted-be...

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what? you cant practice aim on cod, are they for real?
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I saw that on the news tonight, silly people.

I was watching some documentary the other night from 2008 discussing violent video games and there was some American woman talking about how this teenager who killed a few of his class mates years ago got all his training from playing quake because he had never used a gun before, so Quake must have trained him how to use a gun.

Another bad day for gaming today just because some loser shares an interest with millions of nice people out there, the whole hobby is put under the spot light. Edited. Oops.

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I can tell you now, they are not the same. Its like saying someone learned to drive on grand theft auto.
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fenian wrote:
I can tell you now, they are not the same. Its like saying someone learned to drive on grand theft auto.

Next we will have around half a million pro boxers in the British Isles due to them using Fight Night as a training aid, it must work the same, right?

I could go on.............

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Yeah video games are like real life. I got shell shock from playing Call Of Duty.
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" I used a similar holographic aiming device (sight) at Utoya and the game is such a good war simulator is so good that it is used by armies all around the World."

 

If that was true would everyone just run about into enemy gun fire all the time, but as long as you stop and hide every so often the wounds heal within seconds. 

 

How did he have time to plan a massacre, read up norse mythology and play wow if he was playing cod for 16 hours a day?

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I facepalm at people who blame video games for people acting out on violence. I haven't read the link though, because any reports like this are all the same, and I can get the jist of it.

The guy was most likely a Psychopath/Sociopath (Antisocial Personality Disorder) more than anything, or even had Schizophrenia, depending on what his point was of killing these people.

We ALL have the capability of murdering someone, or acting out violently as such, we just don't all do it.

If these dumb journalists want to blame video games, then they may as well blame music videos, soap operas, movies, music, and everything else.
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If anyone has an unhealthy obsession with anything then aspects of that obsession can be fed by any kind of material be that computer games, television, films or pornography. They say that some paedophiles are turned on by nappy adverts, most of us find that idea abhorrent but it doesn't make it any the less true.

 

If guns and killing are your thing you can certainly feed your obsession through gameplay and if that involves gaming accoutrmements then it could be assumed that that may add to the fantasy.

 

I don't think anyone would blame gaming alone but it can be factored into what is probably a myriad of reasons for someone acting in the way Breivik did.

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The media love to grab situations where they can use it as an excuse, they forget to report that millions of people play the game for fun and for no other reasons.

 

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Everything gets linked to games these days. :|
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Bet no-one blamed violence on Doom back in the day :Thumbs:

 

You may as well say that Mario made me mug and jump on people until they spat out coins, and then I took some shrooms, and went through some sewers. :|

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xElfenLied_US wrote:

Bet no-one blamed violence on Doom back in the day :Thumbs:

 

You may as well say that Mario made me mug and jump on people until they spat out coins, and then I took some shrooms, and went through some sewers. :|


Well if it wasnt mario that made you do it what was?

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BettySwollocks92 wrote:

I don't think anyone would blame gaming alone but it can be factored into what is probably a myriad of reasons for someone acting in the way Breivik did.


 

It cant be blamed at all, He is too old for it to be a factor, When he was younger and his brain was forming its pathways he would have had no interaction with violent games they simply were not around, therefore games were not a factor in him reaching a violent mindset at all.

 

Was it a factor in him acting on that mindset, probably not, he was probably reading a lot of terrorist material in order to come up with his bomb, and that probably would have had a bigger impact, but he was probably just made that way from a child and was always going to act out in one way or another.

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What I find really interesting, is how we are more accepting/condemning of certain behaviour depending on certain conditions. I've been reading The Moral Landscape by Sam Harris, and this is a little relevant snippet:

 

Consider the following examples of human violence:

 

1. A four-year-old boy was playing with his father’s gun and killed a young woman. The gun had been kept loaded and unsecured in a dresser drawer.


2. A twelve-year-old boy, who had been the victim of continuous physical and emotional abuse, took his father’s gun and intentionally shot and killed a young woman because she was teasing him.


3. A twenty-five-year-old man, who had been the victim of continuous abuse as a child, intentionally shot and killed his girlfriend because she left him for another man.


4. A twenty-five-year-old man, who had been raised by wonderful parents and never abused, intentionally shot and killed a young woman he had never met “just for the fun of it.”


5. A twenty-five-year-old man, who had been raised by wonderful parents and never abused, intentionally shot and killed a young woman he had never met “just for the fun of it.” An MRI of the man’s brain revealed a tumor the size of a golf ball in his medial prefrontal cortex (a region responsible for the control of emotion and behavioral impulses).

 

We would all probably say some of these people are less 'to blame' than others. But... How can we make sense of these gradations of moral blame when brains and their background influences are, in every case, and to exactly the same degree, the real cause of a woman’s death?

 

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^^^^ That was kind of my point. Anything can make anybody do anything within the right or in this case wrong mind. To say that computer games cannot add to or influence a persons actions is wrong. Obviously there has to be other factors than just games but as I said when taken in with no doubt a myriad of other factors it all adds up. If the man was a fantasist then the games and their toys added to that.

 

It doesn't imply that anyone who plays a game is going to be influenced to commit the same acts just as not all men are going to rape a young girl because he's sexually excited by her wearing white ankle socks as was the case with one child murderer.

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all serial killers breath oxygen.

therefore if you breath oxygen you may become a serial killer.
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michelle_tabor wrote:
all serial killers breath oxygen.

therefore if you breath oxygen you may become a serial killer.

Everybody that has ever drank water has died.

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Daily Mail are expert scare-mongers.

 

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Stalin used to play Hontanna Montanna to get trophies so I applaud the Dailymail for this useful news.

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