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[Lee3po]

QuietlyWrong wrote:

I don't think Sony expect to make much money from PS2 sales right now though. It's in their interest to get PS2 games on to the store if they want to make any serious money from them, so I don't see any foul play here. I think if they could get the likes of FFXII and, oh, I don't know, the GTA 3 trilogy on to the store, they would. Or at least Square Enix and Rockstar would.

Hey, no worries, bud. I can see how my cynicism might have been taken for naivete.

You don't see any foul play here? Sony removed the backwards compatibility from PS3  (in europe we nearly didn't get it at all) and now they plan to sell us downloadable PS2 games that we may or may not already have disc versions of?

Well, they can save their bandwidth as far as i'm concerned. My disc of Final Fantasy XII is in perfect working order, and i have the original xbox version of the grand theft auto trilogy, also on disc, which is perfectly compatible (after a simple title update) with my xbox 360, and therefore doesn't require additional hardware cluttering my gaming setup. At the risk of sounding like a fanboy, i have to say that the xbox version of san andreas had better dynamic shadows anyway..

I'm not a fanboy though. I'm a gamer (and proud of it!), and I have around 120-ish PS2 games (okami included, omg, what a game, i'm never getting rid of that!). I bought a launch PS3 because backwards compatibility was something that I really wanted. It died and couldn't be replaced like-for-like... so, i guess this 'PS2 for download' development just rubbed me up the wrong way a little bit. I already paid money for those games though, so of course i'm going to think that a 'title update' approach would be preferable. But Sony need cash apparently... :/

[bloodstainkatana]

Most likely since I saw a video on YouTube showing the US 80gb PS3 (1st Gen - equivilent to PAL 60gb) struggling alot with Soul Calibur III 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c73UR0Rfd5o

As you can see it lowers the FPS from 60 to 20-25fps! o_o it's probably because the game relies alot on the

EE chip (much like Tekken Tag) 

I just hope Sony figured out a way to emulate games with ease for the games that demand highly on the Emotion Engine :\ 

[Lee3po]

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bloodstainkatana wrote:

Most likely since I saw a video on YouTube showing the US 80gb PS3 (1st Gen - equivilent to PAL 60gb) struggling alot with Soul Calibur III 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c73UR0Rfd5o

As you can see it lowers the FPS from 60 to 20-25fps! o_o it's probably because the game relies alot on the

EE chip (much like Tekken Tag) 

I just hope Sony figured out a way to emulate games with ease for the games that demand highly on the Emotion Engine :\ 

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OK, sure, I see what you're saying there. Emulation is never the best solution, admittedly. Some of those original xbox games are pretty badly emulated too (fable has glitchy sound, munch's oddysey had hardly any sound at all...!). But, I also remember playing quite a bit of final fantasy xii on my 60G PS3 with no problems..

So are these particular PS2 titles being released on the store because they never used that PS2 EE chip? I never played God Hand, which looked kinda good in a tekken-y sort of way, but the rest sound like drivel.

[QuietlyWrong]

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Lee3po wrote:

You don't see any foul play here? Sony removed the backwards compatibility from PS3  (in europe we nearly didn't get it at all) and now they plan to sell us downloadable PS2 games that we may or may not already have disc versions of?

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I think 'foul play' is a bit strong for what's going on. OK, I'll admit that Sony's removal of PS2 hardware from later PS3 models worked more in the company's favour than in the customers, but hey, that's business. It must be gutting for you if you got rid of your PS2 because you assumed you'd always have emulation built in to the PS3, so I won't deny you your discontent. I still have my PS2, next to the PS3, so I always have that option. Hence I'm less bothered by it, I suppose.

Sony might be accused of money-making because they haven't brought out a generic software PS2 emulator for the PS3, but personally I reckon they'd make more from sales of a let's-say £15 emulator downloadable than they would lose in sales of store-bound PS2 games, especially as they're only taking a cut of the profits from third-party titles. Besides, pure software emulation may not be very effective for the majority of games. The 60GB PS3s at least had the PS2's graphics chip in them, which made emulation a whole lot easier. More modern machines lack that, so perhaps it's inevitable that only a handful of 'don't push the PS2 very hard' games are 'emulatable'.

[CrustyJockStrap]

Maybe foul play but Sony and PSN need to make as much money they can with the loss they have had over the last year.

I already own Maximo 1&2 and God Hand but I do not begrudge buying them on PSN.

Maximo games for me are the greatest games to grace the Ps2.

[InfiniteStates]

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QuietlyWrong wrote:

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I think 'foul play' is a bit strong for what's going on. OK, I'll admit that Sony's removal of PS2 hardware from later PS3 models worked more in the company's favour than in the customers, but hey, that's business. It must be gutting for you if you got rid of your PS2 because you assumed you'd always have emulation built in to the PS3, so I won't deny you your discontent.

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For me, personally, I think the removal of hardware emulation benefitted both Sony and the customer, simply because it drove down the price of the console which means more sold. Plus, as an end-user of the emulation, it only worked about 50% of the time. It didn't actually run any of the games I wanted to play, so I'd rather it wasn't there at all, instead of vaguely being there then letting you down when it mattered.

[awesome_acas]

im confuse...

please answer this straight, anyone....

i have a ps3 cech-3004a.

if i download the ps2 games in the psn store, i can play it????

sorry im new to this stuffs...

anyone can help me...

the NFS mostwanted is on store i wat to DL it.

[mont348]

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awesome_acas wrote:

im confuse...

please answer this straight, anyone....

i have a ps3 cech-3004a.

if i download the ps2 games in the psn store, i can play it????

sorry im new to this stuffs...

anyone can help me...

the NFS mostwanted is on store i wat to DL it.

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All the PS2 games on the store will work on any PS3 they all have the software emulation built in the download file. 

PS2 games on disk will only run on the older Phat 20/60 GB models and some 80 GB american consoles with the PS2 hardware/emulation built in.

[awesome_acas]

thank you very for the answer. not i will purchase  the most wanted....

[I-_-MaGiCzz-_-I]

Seriously now, I thought bringing PS2 games to PSN would be a great idea. And to be fair it was. However, the PS2 games on the PSN Store are terrible. I mean come on! Sell some Games that won Games of their year awards, bring the most popular games of the early 2000's for example Grand Theft Auto: Vice City or Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and the game on PS2 around 2004 and onwards. Games what peopel actually know, have previously played and love. Games what you will actually sell. I promise to you this will give you incredible leverage over the XBOX LIVE Store since they've made so many Minecraft players happy by playing it on a console. Many Minecraft players had rubbish PC's so the lag would increase and now that hardly anyone can play these games of which people actually enjoyed playing. Introducing them onto the PS3 would be great. Me personally would like GTA: San Andreas to be able to purchase on the PSN Store simply because GTA: 5 is taking so long to be released. And because E3 is right around the corner and GTA:5's release date will most likely be announced many players of all ages who have grown up with GTA or Started with their first GTA which was on PS3 (GTA:4) they could then experience the original GTA's on PS3. Rockstar should have and exclusive feature to the Playstation Store for the celbration of GTA:5's release or GTA's anniversary or just a special touch to E3 celebration.