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Base-raping

Am finding game after game ends up with base-raping, I know it could happen in WH or other games, but elements of build & battle lends itself to base-raping, so it's actually built into the game by default making it more likely.

 

I've lost count of the amount of games I've joined & the team I'm on has a ridiculous wall structure & mazes of turrets, even if I reclaim a couple of walls to regain the rift & make my up the map to establish a forward base I just get killed ad-infinitum by a swarm of opposing Hawks

 

Thanks to the maze of turrets the opposing team can never successfuly steal 'our' flag as flying in only sees them taken out by the turrets and 8 people throwing grenades & firing RPGs at them & obviously being base raped means it's impossible to steal 'their' flag.

 

Am finding this base-raping aided by selfish over-zealous, home-base, camping builders really off putting

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LBI_Ron
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Re: Base-ravaging

We are looking into ways to discourage this type of behavior and promote better building over-all.

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cc_star wrote:

Am finding game after game ends up with base-raping, I know it could happen in WH or other games, but elements of build & battle lends itself to base-raping, so it's actually built into the game by default making it more likely.

 

I've lost count of the amount of games I've joined & the team I'm on has a ridiculous wall structure & mazes of turrets, even if I reclaim a couple of walls to regain the rift & make my up the map to establish a forward base I just get killed ad-infinitum by a swarm of opposing Hawks

 

Thanks to the maze of turrets the opposing team can never successfuly steal 'our' flag as flying in only sees them taken out by the turrets and 8 people throwing grenades & firing RPGs at them & obviously being base raped means it's impossible to steal 'their' flag.

 

Am finding this base-raping aided by selfish over-zealous, home-base, camping builders really off putting


 the irony here is that cc_star is saying that the players camping at home base have caused the base rape... so what's the solution? nerf the hawk of course....... (sarcasm)

 

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bitbydeath
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Would be great if enemies could not build in any of your camps (including pod beacon zones).

 

I don't see any reason why it could not be locked down to only being able to build in your own zone or an unoccupied one. Also if an enemy tries to drop a pod beacon down near where you have an existing building or turret (which you have built outside of your zone) they should then be denied building until they have destroyed it or move onto a new area to build.

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I wonder if the total freedom that B+B brings is going to fast too quick. Yes a great idea and the way it is presented in game is great but perhaps Starhawk should be a transition to this new game type. B+B yes but not with such freedom. Starhawk 2 then maybe able to be a fully fledged B+B when both Dev's and gamers understand the system better.

 

Just a thought

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Re: Base-ravaging

the B&B system really needs looking at, but it seems LBI are paying attention

Perhaps some way of limiting how close you can put particular structure to the flag - or how many structures in a set area etc

These forts that people are making ruin the game for everyone - yay, I built an impenetrable fortress, but we now have now buildings left to get us out of our fort knox :smileysad:
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JUST PLAY IT!
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morgothemighty wrote:
the B&B system really needs looking at, but it seems LBI are paying attention

Perhaps some way of limiting how close you can put particular structure to the flag - or how many structures in a set area etc

These forts that people are making ruin the game for everyone - yay, I built an impenetrable fortress, but we now have now buildings left to get us out of our fort knox :smileysad:

Yes  indeed....many time ive been left at an outer beacon with no buildings left to fortify the position.

 

Kudos for LBI for keeping watch. First beta in a while where I've felt the devs have taken an interest in the community

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Re: Base-ravaging

@LBI_Ron base raping will always be a part of games, its the players themselves, if you have unskilled players on 1 side and a group of skilled players on the other, this will happen very quickly and because of the build and battle system its more easy to base rape.

 May i suggest that you guys make it that you cannot build a pod beacon within the grounds of the emenies main base at all, I'm sure this would lower the base rapes down a hell of a lot.

 In my eyes, being base raped on starhawk is a lot more fun than being base raped on warhawk, as you can move your spawn out of the base and venture somewhere else and you can spawn on the baserapers head lol!!

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Re: Base-raping

get into the server where ppl have mics.... talk to them or give your team direction... i have countless games where we won 5-0 with 7 or 8 mins remaining..

 

but sometimes you have a game where everyone is doing their own stuff.. and build too much useless crap that when you get to enemy base and go throught hell to get the flag and when you try to build razorback and you cant coz some noob build 17 gun turrets at the home base....

 

it all depend of ppl you are playing with..

 

server with mics rocks...

 

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Re: Base-raping

It definitely happens, often when I try to build a new outpost nobody even turns up there cause everyone is focused on building the walls around the flag. And it's a mess!
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