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Re: Jusiify such deep changes for the VETS

On the topic of dividing the community, I see what you mean. Lobbies might be a bit intimidating if you find yourself joining a clan lobby, but then on the other hand...... If you dont like what you find in that room, you find another. Usually I find people quite accommodating in the EU lobby's, you're always going to get some boobs who just want to wind people up but on the whole, they're a nice bunch.

And if its so-divisive, why do we all know someone through socom? We all found a mate somewhere. What Im trying to say is, if we all enjoyed having the lobbys there before, why take them away? They made the game what it was essentially.

Seems to me like Zipper want a COD, fair play for trying I say. Its just a shame that there's a portion of us gamers who DON'T want a COD (I personally cant stand it, its mind numbingly boring) and its us gamers who found a place to call home in SOCOM. Instead of trying to beat COD and follow that trend, Zipper should (I think) be going the other way and doing what they do best. Innovate! Socom was unlike anything id played before, and so was MAG. Both great, both individual, both fresh and new.

I would honestly love a disscussion with some of the designers on socom 4, unlikely as it is i still have my fingers crossed. I love the zipline podcast but i always feel some of the questions are avoided. Im not sure who is the best person to get in contact with, going through a mod on here or 'LiquidRunner' (?? the beta coordinator) could be a good idea.
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Re: Jusiify such deep changes for the VETS

I know you would occasionally get voted out of games if people didn't know you, but it didn't happen all the time. I met loads of new people in completely random games not with my friends.

SOCOM 2 was my favourite game ever. I could only play it on weekends at my Dad'scause I couldn't play it at my Mum's. I used to spend Friday and Saturday nights up until about 5am playing and the last hour would often just be sat chatting and not playing...

SOCOM is great because people actually USE headsets and the comms system is good and a lot clearer than COD. Having everyone talk at the same time just doesn't work that great.

I just assumed they'd have the same lobby system, but if they don't I think it's a massive mistake.



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CAL1973
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Re: Jusiify such deep changes for the VETS

I hope I haven't given the impression that I'm happy with the set-up as is, all I'm trying to do is understand the situation in a neutral manner. I always knew this wasn't really gonna be "Socom", maybe that's why I'm not as upset as some others, I've become quite jaded over the many years I've been gaming and am a bit of a purist. Very few games nowadays have much substance, infact very few things in general have much substance and to be honest we bring most of it on ourselves coz we accept it, but what can we do? How do you stop the runnaway train that is COD and all that it signifies, they all want a piece of the pie that we cooked up by buying the game. Anyone who is studying to or is involved in games developement on these forums should get together and create a company who devs for substance not money, with emphasis on anti-cheating software and you'll get my vote and my money, what can I say.

 

 

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Re: Jusiify such deep changes for the VETS

 


CAL1973 wrote:

I hope I haven't given the impression that I'm happy with the set-up as is, all I'm trying to do is understand the situation in a neutral manner. I always knew this wasn't really gonna be "Socom", maybe that's why I'm not as upset as some others, I've become quite jaded over the many years I've been gaming and am a bit of a purist. Very few games nowadays have much substance, infact very few things in general have much substance and to be honest we bring most of it on ourselves coz we accept it, but what can we do? How do you stop the runnaway train that is COD and all that it signifies, they all want a piece of the pie that we cooked up by buying the game. Anyone who is studying to or is involved in games developement on these forums should get together and create a company who devs for substance not money, with emphasis on anti-cheating software and you'll get my vote and my money, what can I say.

 

 


 

Stop accepting it and stop buying it. That's what I intend to do.

 


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I get your sentiment, but I really don't think you can fight it now, COD and it's pie are like an enigma in their own right, you can't stop stuff like that.

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born2destroy wrote:
On the USA forums we asked all these questions for zipline and got answersmto most of them such as why do we have no UCRR or lobbies "because we wanted it to be easier to find a game", i dont care about finding a game i prfer to join a lobby that i know the long time socom players will be in and know how to play the game

Think S4 will be for Clan matches for me and S-con will be for having a mess around with other clans, this no lobbys thing i realy hate, it's made me feel like giving up gaming, i dont want to play with non-english speakers and people i dont know from 1 game to the next, its just not for me and it seems like every game is going down the same road now, its a shame..

 

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I am quite sad about the new socom.. I, like a lot of you guys out there made a friends list from the lobby's in socom that i would never have if i'd have played COD for years.. I have always been a fan of socom and i'll always be a fan of the true socom that we all know and love.

Sure thing need to change every now and again, but why such a shift from the core things? you know i'd have just been happy with some dlc map packs and maybe some new weapons to be able to buy through the store or something like that. I mean how many maps are still unused from the previous socoms? they could have been revamped and we'd have played the hell out of them all over again!

 

Socom has been my longest ever played game, i have owned all the games on all the systems psp, ps2 and ps3. As you guys have said, the reason i came back for more and the reason i've played SC and CF so long is because of the community and the excellent feel of the gameplay.. there simply was nothing else out there like it, sadly it feels like there never will be again...

 

Hey Zipper guys, don't take it the wrong way because you have done an awesome job for those who like the speed and the respawn, those who don't like to be social too.. but for me, i wish you'd give those of us who feel gutted about the new game, something to breathe some new life in to confrontation or maybe even a re-release of the old socoms through the ps store? some dlc or something.. c'mon, you guys have what it takes to make us all happy, i just hope that you can find your way to do it..

 

hey all you guys out there who feel the loss, i'm right there with ya.. R.I.P to the true socom...

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Re: Jusiify such deep changes for the VETS


SOMETHING_NASTY wrote:

I am quite sad about the new socom.. I, like a lot of you guys out there made a friends list from the lobby's in socom that i would never have if i'd have played COD for years.. I have always been a fan of socom and i'll always be a fan of the true socom that we all know and love.

Sure thing need to change every now and again, but why such a shift from the core things? you know i'd have just been happy with some dlc map packs and maybe some new weapons to be able to buy through the store or something like that. I mean how many maps are still unused from the previous socoms? they could have been revamped and we'd have played the hell out of them all over again!

 

Socom has been my longest ever played game, i have owned all the games on all the systems psp, ps2 and ps3. As you guys have said, the reason i came back for more and the reason i've played SC and CF so long is because of the community and the excellent feel of the gameplay.. there simply was nothing else out there like it, sadly it feels like there never will be again...

 

Hey Zipper guys, don't take it the wrong way because you have done an awesome job for those who like the speed and the respawn, those who don't like to be social too.. but for me, i wish you'd give those of us who feel gutted about the new game, something to breathe some new life in to confrontation or maybe even a re-release of the old socoms through the ps store? some dlc or something.. c'mon, you guys have what it takes to make us all happy, i just hope that you can find your way to do it..

 

hey all you guys out there who feel the loss, i'm right there with ya.. R.I.P to the true socom...


well said... even though i dont like TNS....

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Re: Jusiify such deep changes for the VETS

I truly believe this game will have a great community new and old when it releases with a party system

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