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Re: STUPID CLANS!!!

Seeing as this is to do with people voting others out unfairly etc i thought i'd add my two pennies as to what i come across the most when it comes to voting.

In the next socom, could it not be possible to either have a single player training mission as soon as you boot up the game for the first time for the newer players or at least some basic introduction to buttons, which ingame icons mean what and so on without having to resort to the manual which i doubt most people use.

The reason i ask is because i was in a medley the other night when an obviously new player came onto our team. He was walking around, firing his gun at cars etc when somebody on our team who was dead put up a vote against him to which all his mates approved and this guy was chucked out. It wasn't until the round was over that the guy who initiated the vote was explaining as best he could whilst laughing why he voted this guy. (I've come across this guy many times and he's always been an arrogant "I'm leet" kind of player anyway)

It just seems extremely harsh on new players who obviously aren't being able to navigate through endless menu options to find an unranked room to practise, if they even know they exist. Quick Match > Unranked i know is easy but i'm guessing most new players just click Quick Match > Join Game without even noticing there is options to join other game types.
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Re: STUPID CLANS!!!

I think this is rediculous, i got kick 3 times yesterday for trying to play different games, i would join and immediatly get kicked its just stuipid. They were all ranked games aswell so they are all open to the public theyre not some clans personal roo. if a clan made a room saying ___'s room i would understand but its not, its public rooms!

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Re: STUPID CLANS!!!

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A way to stop people getting voted at random?

 

From my personal experience the people who get voted are, 90% of the time, people with no clan and who are completley NEW to the game.

 

People vote them because frankly, the noobs dont have a clue. Socom is not a very "noob" friendly game, so because of this on every series thats been released everyone is BOUND to come across that one guy on your team who dosent know what the hell hes doing or shoots the hostages by mistake.

 

Its easier to vote people like this and save yourself the trouble, In reality you should give them  a chance to learn the game, but no one wants to lose because of some new guy, right?

 

The best idea would be to incorporate some kind of training list or tutorial, sort of like what Warhawk has done in its final patch, to ensure new players actualy know the game modes and how to throw a ***** grenade properly.

 

 

As for clans voting people , perhaps the matchmaking system should actualy MATCHMAKE! and find parties of similar size in quick match = less voting.

 

As far as medlies are concencered I have no idea how to fix this, and it sbeen like this since Socom 2 although the voting was never this bad. If people stick to their own region I think there would be less arguments and more friendly games.

 

But then again some will think im just being ignorant asking for region lock.

 

 

 

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Now that I think about it again, The addition of User created ranked rooms (UCRR's) would solve most of the troubles on this game.

Clans would generaly stick to their own rooms, and everyone can play their own maps and modes without everyone fighting to get in a medley, Its beyond me why they didnt add this in the first place, since every other socom THRIVED on this!

Player base would skyrocket if this was added, I guarantee half the people who bitch about this game would shut up, if they could just make their own games and play away.

Also, Why NOT give us UCRR's? They say its to prevent rank ups and stat cheats, Have Sony/Slant six even looked at the top ten players, Or even top 50-100? Because its bloody hard to find a LEGIT player on that leaderboard. So do us and yourselves a favour, Give us UCRR'S! the damage is done already, fix whats left.

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They should bring back the socom 1 ranking system which was all about kills/playing time, just a little improved.

 

That would sort it all

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Re: STUPID CLANS!!!

Na ewor guy said he only plays in EU eng and since 1.6 theres been 2 servers max so he may have to play in game mode he dont like. so he's limiting it himself. Ive said many times we ask players to leave n generally if its rnd 3 or after our guy can wait. You must be really unlucky or exagerating a bit i never get voted for being english to make space yes because im english never. I played rsv2 prior to this where the host had ability to kick player from room, so he'd kick ppl from his side, simple jump on other team i got voted more that way because id be killin hosts team. Uccr's would turn out the same way as as soon as its ranked ppl want to win n theres nothing to stop another clan entering room n voting ppl. 80% majority is best we can ask for.
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Re: STUPID CLANS!!!


xXEXCALABERXx wrote:
Na ewor guy said he only plays in EU eng and since 1.6 theres been 2 servers max so he may have to play in game mode he dont like. so he's limiting it himself. Ive said many times we ask players to leave n generally if its rnd 3 or after our guy can wait. You must be really unlucky or exagerating a bit i never get voted for being english to make space yes because im english never. I played rsv2 prior to this where the host had ability to kick player from room, so he'd kick ppl from his side, simple jump on other team i got voted more that way because id be killin hosts team. Uccr's would turn out the same way as as soon as its ranked ppl want to win n theres nothing to stop another clan entering room n voting ppl. 80% majority is best we can ask for.

 

Not really limiting myself since I enjoy all the game modes, yes I like some more than others but I generally enjoy them all, on the point of kicking there is no excuse for it unless there is a good enough reason to be doing it for example teamkilling, Idle, abusive player.

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Re: STUPID CLANS!!!

 


xXEXCALABERXx wrote:
Na ewor guy said he only plays in EU eng and since 1.6 theres been 2 servers max so he may have to play in game mode he dont like. so he's limiting it himself. Ive said many times we ask players to leave n generally if its rnd 3 or after our guy can wait. You must be really unlucky or exagerating a bit i never get voted for being english to make space yes because im english never. I played rsv2 prior to this where the host had ability to kick player from room, so he'd kick ppl from his side, simple jump on other team i got voted more that way because id be killin hosts team. Uccr's would turn out the same way as as soon as its ranked ppl want to win n theres nothing to stop another clan entering room n voting ppl. 80% majority is best we can ask for.
If a game has already started what difference does it make what round its on? So your basically saying that you expect people to leave if a game has already started or even if your in the second round, but if its round 3 its ok we can finish the game.  Seriously mate you are your clan are whats wrong with this game from my pov. Im glad you put what you have because now i know to completley avoid you and your clan. Another person to list which just keeps getting bigger and bigger. 
I very well might be limiting myself. That's only because of what I and many over's have experienced whilst playing this game. Id go in other rooms if the system wasn't abused in the way that it is, Its no fault of my own why i stick in the EU servers. Its just the most civil place to be.

 

 

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Re: STUPID CLANS!!!

Ucrr's would not turn out to be the same as RSV , because the host cant kick people at random, its the exact same as playing a medley except you get power over the maps, nothing more.

This idea works and is a million times more fun than any other "fix" , Just look at Socom 1 and 2 and you get my point.

Ps an 80% majority vote would change nothing. clans will still vote people

UCRR'S = Best thing ever to implement into Socom confrontation.
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Re: STUPID CLANS!!!

 


Noxage wrote:
Ucrr's would not turn out to be the same as RSV , because the host cant kick people at random, its the exact same as playing a medley except you get power over the maps, nothing more.

This idea works and is a million times more fun than any other "fix" , Just look at Socom 1 and 2 and you get my point.

Ps an 80% majority vote would change nothing. clans will still vote people

UCRR'S = Best thing ever to implement into Socom confrontation.

 

 

Sure it would because it would take 6 out of 8 to vote out instead of the current 4 out of 8 as long as they counted the player being vioted and it should in the percentage..there still would be voting but it would be a lot better than it is now.

 

Changing the percentage is probably the only thing they could do now with Confrontation that wouldn't be that hard to do..in future games they could put in some kind of kick for team killing system like Uncharted 2 has.

 

We don't have to worry so much about exploiters anymore you can just report them and Sony bans their PS3's..anoying players can just be muted or reported if they are really anoying or abusive on proxmity...

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