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23 Sep 2008
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Singstar Discs - Rip to HDD (Like Harmonix did with Rock Band)

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I think the Singstar Devs could learn a little something from Harmonix (Rock Band).

Harmonix innovated by allowing users to literally rip the songs off of the Rock Band disc onto the PS3/Xbox 360 HDD.
Of course there was a relicensing fee, but I paid for it.

This ripping enables the disc content from the RB1 disc to be available in RB2 or any other Rock Band title for just a $5USD licensing fee.

Now it is apparent that Singstar Devs are neglecting the Singstore's content and not delivering the content that is being distributed on their standalone discs.
I personally am not willing or interested in buying these disc separately so that I can disc swap.

Harmonix has done something really great. And I would like to see Singstar devs follow.
If they do release a patch that can do this to the Singstar discs. I won't mind buying the discs and paying a small relicensing fee like Harmonix did for Rock band.
Having all the songs on the same PS3 with out ever having to swap discs will be awesome on all levels.

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hey!

 

that is a brilliant idea... i am sure there is a reason why we couldnt just have them as dlc on sstore. but if you could rip them as you suggest i would get the discs... as it is its too much hassle to swap discs around all the time.

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It could be possible to do if each disc carried a unique id code. This would allow you to register your singstar to your ps3 and download the tracks onto your ps3 hdd. Simply like downloading from the singstore. As you will have registered that disc to your ps3 no-one else would be able to download the tracks as when they tried sony would know. It could have a feature built in so it could only be done when your online, thus allowing sony to monitor it
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Thats an incredible idea...

It can be something like Call of Duty 4 Game of the Year Edition.
Every copy ships with a unique code to redeem the map pack.

Instead this code could be used to redeem a "ticket" or "patch"  which could then be used to rip that particular singstar disc to the HDD.
The code is void.

Nice suggestion mate.

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Another idea

 

1 time copy al the tracks from vol 1 to your hard drive, also 1 time copy vol. 2 tracks to your hard drive. etc with new volumes

 

Now if you wanna play singstar, you first have to swap disks, first vol 1, than vol. 2 to load the tracks. The last disk you keep in your ps3 and than you start singing ;-)

 

So now sony can check that you have the disks because you first have to load the disks and you don't have to disk swap annymore (only before you start playing singstar)

 

Please sony give us a function like this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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One problem with making the discs unique is that the data on the disc must be changed for each copy that is burnt at the manufacturing company.
Not very feasible in that sense.

But a code system may be much more effective.

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Rubbish and would never work. You forget that not only are you licensing the song but your licensing the video as well (something that doesn't happen with Rock Band), and that opens up a much bigger can of worms with regards to getting it sorted.
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YobRenoops wrote:
Rubbish and would never work. You forget that not only are you licensing the song but your licensing the video as well (something that doesn't happen with Rock Band), and that opens up a much bigger can of worms with regards to getting it sorted.

Well I wouldnt say its rubbish. But I do agree that it wouldnt work, due to them being two very different games.

 

However if it could work I'm sure the community would be happy.

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Mr_Writer wrote:

YobRenoops wrote:
Rubbish and would never work. You forget that not only are you licensing the song but your licensing the video as well (something that doesn't happen with Rock Band), and that opens up a much bigger can of worms with regards to getting it sorted.

Well I wouldnt say its rubbish. But I do agree that it wouldnt work, due to them being two very different games.

 

However if it could work I'm sure the community would be happy.


 

I think ur being hasty... it does depend on the licensing deal... if it is based on unit only then all the people using that song would already have the disc. But if it is tied into platform too then there would be a big prob
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Mr_Writer wrote:

YobRenoops wrote:
Rubbish and would never work. You forget that not only are you licensing the song but your licensing the video as well (something that doesn't happen with Rock Band), and that opens up a much bigger can of worms with regards to getting it sorted.

Well I wouldnt say its rubbish. But I do agree that it wouldnt work, due to them being two very different games.

 

However if it could work I'm sure the community would be happy.


 

It would be good but I doubt we'll ever see it happen.


Also, how much use is a one time code if your PS3 bricks? Its already a pain in the a$$ redownloading songs off the store to a replacement PS3.

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I posted this in another thread :

 

My solution would be this :

 

Allow people to rip tracks from the disk to the HDD.

 

Tracks then appear in the carousel

 

The first time you select any of the tracks from a disk in a session you have to put in the dvd to verify you own it. You only have to do this once per session. This means that if you own 5 PS2 singstars, you will have a max of 5 disk swaps in a whole nights play but can play any track from any disk without swapping once you have verified the disk.

 

If you tried to play a track and didn't have the disk anymore and couldn't therefore verify it, all tracks ripped from that disk would be "greyed out" in the carousel until you reverified the disk.

 

I'd also like the option to selectively choose which tracks i'd rip - there is no way i'm ever going to sing some of them so i could just rip the ones i wanted to save HDD space.

 

This could be extended out to Ps3 versions if they wanted, so you could do the same with them.

 

I think this method gives the most flexibility for users and least hassle - plus sony get to keep selling us ps2 disks and it stops us selling them on. It's a win-win all round. Plus, programming wise it's dead easy to implement.

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thats another great solution.
Anything along these lines would be great.
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Why is no one listening to the singstar veterans?! We do kinda know how the singstar world goes round!
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Yeah, that´s something I told a designer from SingStar on the Games Convention. And he told me, that it´s an interessting option.

I can understand, that they have problems with verifying the discs, but at least it would be really cool, if the songs where in the carousel.

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If it does happen I wouldnt mind paying a fee ala rock band, I also wouldn't mind the disk verification idea (though maybe once a week or month as opposed to once a session). What I would really like is an app you can download off psn or off the disks so that you no longer need disks at all (I have had three seperate incidents of another game in the singstar case when I got to someones house, my bad but still) not having to put a disk in at all to play singstar would be great, my burnout will be sitting on a shelf soon purely because of the inconveiniance factor.
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Harmonix has innovated yet again and used my suggestion earlier in this thread of using a unique code to export the tracks.


On the new Rock Band:AC/DC coming out in November, every purchasee will gain a unique code to export the songs to their HDD. (Most likely a one use ticket).

That is so awesome...and due to that I wont mind picking up the disc and exporting it to Rock band.

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