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seeing as the qualifications are over i feel we should have a new thread dedicated to the tourny itself. i've posted up an image there of the four groups. i think everyone feels group B is the toughest. My beloved Ireland will have a tough time negotiating group C, however we have shown on two occassions against Italy during the 2010 WC qualifiers that we were more than capable of taking them on. Spain obviously super tough for us, and they knocked us out of the last 16 on penalties on what was our last major tournament all them years ago. Croatia will be tough too, but if spain whitewash the group, we may have a fighting chance of coming second, and what could set up a very interesting quarter final with you guys providing you top the group!

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Come on England!

Come on England!

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We will only need this thread for a week, then we'll be out.

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hopefully you are wrong and we get to at least the semi final stage

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I wish they would come up with an app for play station for euro up just like
They have NHL and Netflix. If anyone from play station team reads this then think
About this you will get a lot of costumers.
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just over a week away until it starts, and i find myself not excited. someone slap some sense into me!
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englishgolfer wrote:
just over a week away until it starts, and i find myself not excited. someone slap some sense into me!

 

*Slap sense into englishgolfer :D

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So how do you all think England will do,personally I dont think we're good enough to get out of the group,I think France will top it then Ukraine , this has nothing to do with Roy being the boss, I just think England are *****, I think holland will win and also expect France to do well and have money on them both, and have also money on M Gomez ( Germany) and k huntelaar ( holland) for top goal scorers,I can't wait for this to start just hope the hooligans don't spoil it.
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Well considering the are still picking people based on their name, instead of their form... I think they stand zero chance of getting to the Semi's. QF is the absolute very best they can expect.

That is even with two names not going. Can't believe they actually took Gerrard and Terry. Lampard... well I suppose he should be a bench warmer at best but England got lucky that Barry got injured. And Rio Ferdinand.

They should have taken Caulker instead of Terry, and Glen Johnson? All I can do is :D
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come on .......................................................*

 

 

 

 

* Anybody but Ingerland.

 

 

Realistically, despite the put downs, anti press and negativety surrounding englands chances, i have a feeling this might just be your year.  Do a chelsea, utter mince for 90 minutes and win it somehow.

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Lampard is out. Which I am happy for. More time and space for Chamberlain. But on the flipside, Henderson is in. More of Liverpool's uselessness in the squad. At least there are no ridiculous expectations this year.
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I used to always be secretly optimistic about England's chances in a tournament, but since 2010 I just haven't cared.  Starting to find a few reasons to regain my secret optimism.

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Cahill ruled out and Kelly in as a replacement. 

 

Richards should surely be in before Kelly and why not ask Rio.....footballing reasons......haha

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The fact that Rio is still out even with Cahill gone, just highlights how stupid this all is.

I have hopes for Holland and Germany. I expect France to do well also. Of course there's always Spain to watch out for.
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magnum80 wrote:

Cahill ruled out and Kelly in as a replacement. 

 

Richards should surely be in before Kelly and why not ask Rio.....footballing reasons......haha


 

can only blame richards himself for that. he didn't want to be back-up so blew the chance himself. with that attitude he may have blown his england future as well.

 

as for rio, didn't want him there really in the st place as not good enough nowadays. however, with the lack of other options i'm suprised he didn't get called when cahill was out.  with the response i've seen on the sky news ticker from his representatives i don't think rio will ever play for england again.  calling hodgson & fa disgraceful and lacking respect.

 

 

 

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Apparently England have released a new kit 

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Maybe ferdinand should have replaced cahill but his advisor has ruined his chances now saying that and he will never play england ever again

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You can't really argue with this:

 

Very hello,

I have done my rigorous and extensive research on the #Euros and have come up with this report for the vast number of Bookmakers in which employ me. All stats are from UEFA which is a football company. 

I will now show why England are favourites for Euro2012 based on some scientific criteria and stats, and provide relevant odds for the bookmakers.

1.0 Previous Tournament Performance

Euro 2008 performance

Performance at previous tournaments is key in determining how a nation will perform at the current tournament. A lot of emphasis has been put on the importance of having a good defence this year, so I thought I'd take a look at how well the top teams performed defensively at Euro 2008 and use this as a determining factor in setting odds. 


fig 1.11 - Goals conceded at Euro 2008 


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I----------------------------6---------6----------------------------------------
I-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I---------------------------------------------------4-------------------------
I-------3----------------------------------------------------------------------
I-----------------2-------------------------------------------------------------
I-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I------------------------------------------------------------0----------------
I__________________________________________________
------Spa-----Hol------Ger-------Fra-------Ita------Eng------

The graph shows the goals conceded by the top 6 Euro2012 teams. As you can clearly see; England have the best defensive record. In fact, England haven’t lost a game at the Euros in almost 8 years. An incredible record. Spain have achieved a similar record but have conceded more goals along the way. France appear to have a poor defensive record at Euro2008, but this is only because they failed to qualify for the knock out stages, meaning they played less games, so they had fewer games to not concede goals in.

1.2 Defensive and goals odds

Here are my proposed odds based on previous tournament goals/defence stats:

>England to progress further than they did at Euro 2008 (2/1)

>England to keep a clean sheet in 1 or more group stage defeats (11/8)

>Germany to win all of their games but fail to win the tournament on goals conceded (13/8)




2.0 - Knockout Stage Performance


Performing well in the knockout stage is key to winning a Euros. The majority of previous winners of the Euros have remained undefeated in the knock out stages and this is no coincidence. It may be a surprise to you though, that England have the joint best knockout stage record this century. 


Fig.2.1 – Total Defeats in knockout stages by tournament

England – Euro2000(1) Euro2004(1) Euro2008 (0)
Spain – Euro2000(1) Euro2004(1) Euro2008(0)


In my opinion these are the best 2 teams in the knockout stages in the last 12 years because not only did they both not lose in the knockout stages at a whole tournament (Euro2008), but both only lost once in the knockout stages in the 2 previous tournaments, a feat not many other nations can boast. This stat is key in determining my knockout stage odds.


2.2 Knockout Stage Odds

>England to lose 2 or more knockout stage matches (10/1)

>The winner of the tournament to lose 1 or more knockout stage matches (9/1)

>England to lose all of their group matches but win their quarter final (4/1)



3.0 Cultural Adaptability 

Playing a tournament in a strange new country can affect the performance of every team. It is key that each team has a leader, a captain, that can blend in seamlessly with the locals and not cause any controversy. The legacy of a tournament is created not only by the fans and locals, but by the winning team. 

Fig 3.1 Legacy by Tournament and Adaptability by Winning Team/Captain
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Tournament - Austria and Switzerland 2008 
Legacy – The Alps and Mountains
Adaptability of Winner – Puyol was a mountain.
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Tournament – Portugal 2004
Legacy – Greasy Portuguese people
Adaptability of Winner – Winners were Grease
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Tournament – Holland and Belgium 2000
Legacy – Legal Drugs
Adaptability of Winner – The French licked toads

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EURO 2012 LEGACY AND WHO WILL ADAPT BEST 

Tournament – Poland and Ukraine 2012
Legacy – Racist People
Predicted winner by adaptability – ENGLAND – John Terry is allegedly definitely racist
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As you can see in figure 3.1, the adaptability to the legacy of the tournament of the winning team/players has been key in their success. I believe Roy Hodgson’s decision to choose John Terry over Rio Ferdinand on grounds that he is a really good racist is going to be the decision that wins England the Euros and give Euro2012 the really racist legacy that it deserves. 

MORE PROPOSED ODDS

John Terry Specials
>John Terry to sleep with Rooney, Milner or Gerrard’s Wife (1/5)
>John Terry to sleep with Welbeck, Defoe or Walcott’s wife (400/1)


Winner/To Lift the Trophy
>Spain/Xavi (4/1)
>Germany/Schweinsomething (5/1)
>Holland/Sneijder (6/1)
>Spain/John Terry (2/1)
>Germany/John Terry (2/1)
>Any other team/John Terry (1/100)


To conclude, England are favourites to win the Euros because they have the best record in the Euros of late, they concede the least goals, perform best in knockout stages and will be able to adapt to the local culture and set the desired legacy of the tournament through some racisting by John Terry.

BET NOW

Bye.

 

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