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Re: Anyone know of the legitimate design decision for this shambles?

Ya ow the one above making you dead.... That's them.
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Re: Anyone know of the legitimate design decision for this shambles?


POPPA-KLUMP wrote:
Ahhh! But shika how many of your wins were from base rapes? 😜

But in all seriousness I don't get what all the moaning is about, if you defend properly it shouldn't happen and if the other team are just better than you then well that a game innit!
Honestly..... I say one was what I'd call a true baserape but hawks weren't enabled and it was a zones game. The other team put up one hell of a fight for their homebase though. @bilbo - agreed regarding warhawk "vets" but is that a design flaw by LBI or is that the problem with releasing a game similar to war hawk in mechanics? I bet we wouldn't have this thread if people had the same amount of experience when the game came out. Also most "vets" end up on the same team because they know each other and have a mic. I know I like playing with people I know and talk to. That there automatically makes the game unbalanced and that has nothing to do with design. Like I said I have two design faults with this game....... The 32 player b&b build limit and the lack of capturable bases on the large maps ctf. ,ost other problems come from the players themselves
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Re: Anyone know of the legitimate design decision for this shambles?


Bilbo_bobbins wrote:
by what level they are on and if they are in clans normally gives it away. Those on level 1-10 are being base raped by those on level 33 and above and all in a clan. It sort of tells its own story.

I'm not joking but last night every game I went in, this was the same case. I stayed on the losing team but boy is it boring.


But thats my point, I'm a Warhawk Vet, I'm not saying I am brilliant or anything but I had several hundred if not a thousand+ hours on Warhawk, yet here I am on Level 8, because i haven't had much chance to play yet.

 

So, I ask again, how do you sort out the Vets from the noobs? Because by your logic, I should be being base raped because I'm lower than level 8 but, I should be level 33 because I'm a WH Vet??

 

Once the game has been released for more than a couple of weeks, the XP will balance out, WH Vets will naturally have higher XP because they are used to the game, the noobs will have lower XP, but in the first week it is impossible to sort the Vets from the noobs, from the quick learners, etc.

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Re: Anyone know of the legitimate design decision for this shambles?


B0RNXenon wrote:

Bilbo_bobbins wrote:
by what level they are on and if they are in clans normally gives it away. Those on level 1-10 are being base raped by those on level 33 and above and all in a clan. It sort of tells its own story.

I'm not joking but last night every game I went in, this was the same case. I stayed on the losing team but boy is it boring.


But thats my point, I'm a Warhawk Vet, I'm not saying I am brilliant or anything but I had several hundred if not a thousand+ hours on Warhawk, yet here I am on Level 8, because i haven't had much chance to play yet.

 

So, I ask again, how do you sort out the Vets from the noobs? Because by your logic, I should be being base raped because I'm lower than level 8 but, I should be level 33 because I'm a WH Vet??

 

Once the game has been released for more than a couple of weeks, the XP will balance out, WH Vets will naturally have higher XP because they are used to the game, the noobs will have lower XP, but in the first week it is impossible to sort the Vets from the noobs, from the quick learners, etc.



I can see what you are saying and you are right in that instance, but my point is that those on higher levels seem to all be in clans. MOST seem to know exactly what they are doing and are up against those on lower ranks, like me and you. Most of the time those on lower ranks haven't played the game as much and therefore don't know how to play as well.

 

This means instantly being base raped and the game might aswell finish in the first few minutes. Its not fun and needs balancing out. All they have to do is restrict some servers to certain levels, or match make you to certain servers.

 

as it is now, its ridiculous and not enjoyable.

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Re: Anyone know of the legitimate design decision for this shambles?

Iv joined alot of games in zones when we are just defending our home base, and it been really rather fun even though we got our arses handed to us on a plate. I don't care about winning on an MP game or my KDR, if it's a fun game I couldn't care less, and if it is really one sided I swear and rage quit😂😂
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Re: Anyone know of the legitimate design decision for this shambles?

I am of the opinion that bringing back official rank limited servers will stop all of this moaning about baseraping.

I really have no idea why there are no official servers, seems like a step back in my opinion.

Unless they are waiting 3 months to turn off the WH servers and reallocate them! :smileyhappy:

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Re: Anyone know of the legitimate design decision for this shambles?


POPPA-KLUMP wrote:
Iv joined alot of games in zones when we are just defending our home base, and it been really rather fun even though we got our arses handed to us on a plate. I don't care about winning on an MP game or my KDR, if it's a fun game I couldn't care less, and if it is really one sided I swear and rage quit😂😂


thats the problem, people rage quit and makes it worse for the team. Its not fun at all after that.

 

Zones has huge problems with this. I've stopped playing zones even though its my favourite. CTF from now on until its fixed.

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Re: Anyone know of the legitimate design decision for this shambles?


B0RNXenon wrote:

I am of the opinion that bringing back official rank limited servers will stop all of this moaning about baseraping.

I really have no idea why there are no official servers, seems like a step back in my opinion.

Unless they are waiting 3 months to turn off the WH servers and reallocate them! :smileyhappy:



that would make sense wouldn't it. I was hoping there would be official servers, but not to have any is a mistake.  Fingers crossed eh

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Re: Anyone know of the legitimate design decision for this shambles?

I agree, more often than not now I find when I join a game I join on a side who gets killed the minute they're spawned or I join on the other side which has my team just sitting in the enemy base in tanks/Hawks spawn killing.

 

I did play one really good CTF match last night though where most of my team were similar ranks to me (between 1 and 15) and they all seemed to be working towards the common goal of defending flag and taking the higher ranking baserapers flags. All the other team were doing is trying to score as many kills as possible and admittedly they were totally owning us but in the end our team won because we managed to get their flag twice and they failed to get ours. The whole game I did base defence with a lot of other members of my team and personally I think we did a sterling job against very experienced players who seemed to just be trying to get XP through kills.

 

This moves me onto my next point, I reckon you should get XP points when you've built a vehicle platform and someone else spawns a vehicle from it. Also when you build a turret if it destroys an enemy whilst being controlled by the AI and not another player then the person who built that turret should get some XP, or when someone uses the ARM that you build. Also if you drive a Razorback and the gunner gets a kill then surely the driver should get some of that too. It would encourage players to support each other more. 

 

 

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Re: Anyone know of the legitimate design decision for this shambles?

SInce Dylan missed out on being able to add pay for own private server, he's adding pay for dedicated servers :smileyvery-happy:

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