Starhawk

[wingkong85]

It's almost a game-wrecker in my opinion. Sorry, but something really has to be done about that, because a single player can wipe out an entire base within seconds. I don't even understand why it's in the game, considering both the repair torch and grinder are perfectly capable of doing the same job.

A guy with "bruiser" can take out a tank with a couple of puny swipes whereas a rocket launcher would take ages. And EVERYONE is using it now, so it just ruins the game. Please reduce the damage at least because it turns one man into a wrecking machine.

[ZootSuit]

Surely the fault lies with the team that is not able to prevent one person from getting into their base? There've been plenty of times where I've sneaked into an enemy base, only to get ripped to pieces by auto-turrets and a keen-eyed player. On the flip side I've done the same against teams that weren't focused on defence, instead choosing to harass my teams base, and turned the tide of the battle by destroying their launchpads and what not.
Generally I tend to use Field Mechanic, so to switch to Bruiser I am taking a big set back in having to rely on repair tools and health pick-ups to restore my vehicles. I think that is a fair trade off, I can't be as suicidal as I normally am but, if I can make it to the enemy base I can do some decent damage.

[saberdragon · Accepted solution]

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wingkong85 wrote:

A guy with "bruiser" can take out a tank with a couple of puny swipes whereas a rocket launcher would take ages. And EVERYONE is using it now, so it just ruins the game. Please reduce the damage at least because it turns one man into a wrecking machine.

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It was suggested on the U.S. forums that maybe Bruiser should be made so its spawn with the Grinder instead of the very OP skill/perk we have now...

[Stezza]

The speed at which you can destroy buildings with Bruiser is ludicrous however I do think it's important to have some kind of anti-vehicle skill for infantry, maybe reduce the potency of Bruiser so it's more in line with the spanner in Warhawk.

On another note, I'd love to see the option for the host to turn skills off entirely. It would be nice to be able to have some hardcore games with no skills and 100% friendly fire.

[wingkong85]

@saberdragon: You would think they'd have some common sense and do that instead, but we'll see.

It's not poor defending if someone only needs 1-2 seconds to destroy a building, it's just bad design. One man with a jetpack and the brusier skill can do more damage than any vehicle in the game and that's just stupid. In Warhawk, you had a wrench which at least made some sense... but a knife?!

[ZootSuit]

I don't see much of a problem with the speed, you can't spam knife attacks like you could in Warhawk. There's a relatively long cool down period and R3 is an awkward button to use, they're not as quick as you describe. If you're paying attention you'll notice the buildings disappearing on the map and can do something about it. Of course, if you loose a shield you're kinda boned.

I do like the Grinder idea, it does make more sense than a knife and prevents overuse of the skill.

[Bilbo_bobbins]

I think its a joke a player can take out any building within seconds. Too many times I build a spawn beacon and defences and get killed, only for the player to knife my base to death. I guess its my team for not bothering to spawn on it, but it needs sorting out.

[Scar_HeadFaced]

It's definitely over powered at the moment, the spanner in WH was well balanced when attacking vehicles so i'd like to see them lower it to that level. I have no problem with the knife attacks on the small turrets but when it's more effective than a rocket launcher on a concrete bunker it's just plain stupid!

You could change it to spawn with a grinder but i think reducing it's power will do, or you could change it to a sledge hammer with a swiss army knife handle!

[KADAFI316]

that its just a joke people are not even bothering to destroy the base they just use the knife its a shoking desicion  to have trhat skill in this game grinder repair gun is just fine how the heck can it take god knows how many rpg a lot to take down walls and beem guns but this skill does it 2 sec so stupid they guy who idea this was at lbi should go shoot himselff in the face what are you smoking dude!!!!!

complety screwed up the game now every one is  doing it what dont you understand people abuse stuff so u need limts rules to this things or people simply abuse it

[morgothemighty]

Just get rid of it and keep the repair tool that is already dotted around the maps and have that damage the vehicles and buildings instead