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FAQ - YLOD - what are my options now?

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Hi all

 

As with my first FAQ thread (blu-ray failures - What to do), this thread is not designed as a discussion, but is rather, something which I can point to in my sig line to save me typing it all out each time :)

 

Please feel free to add anything I've missed, but I would very much appreciate it if people would refrain from replying with a "my PS3 just got this :(" message ;) Please :)

 

 

 

So. Admin out of the way... :)

 

 

This thread is intended to give you some pointers as to your options if you get a YLOD failure.

 

I'll cover the warranty implications as I go along - hopefully :)

 

 

You have a YLOD.  

For sake of argument, we'll assume that you didn't do a full system backup 5 minutes before, and would (in an ideal world) like to get your data back :)

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You have some basic decisions to make... :(

 

Some methods will cost money.

Some won't.

Some methods will jepordise your ability to take other options later.

 

First decision - just how important is your data to you?

Ultimately, the ONLY way to get your data is by bringing your PS3 back to life :(

Taking the Hard Drive out, trying to read it from a PC, or putting it into another PS3 - these will NOT work.

The Hard Drive is uniquely paired to your (now dead) PS3, and ONLY your (now dead) PS3 will be able to read it.

 

If you REALLY want your data, your options for getting it are:

1) Bring it back to life with a hairdryer.  Yes, this DOES work.

A search on youtube for "PS3 hair dryer fix" will return loads of results on this :)

 

The downside - doing that MAY melt the casing of your PS3.

Whilst this may not be a major problem for you, it may impact on your ability to use SOGA to get any money back (see later topic for more detail)

ie - read the rest of this thread BEFORE doing the hair dryer fix :)

 

The other downside - this is only (generally) a temporary fix - your PS3 will not come back to life for good.

Some people get minutes of life, some get hours.

 

See later replies about what to do next to get your data... :)

 

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Your other option for bringing the PS3 back to life is

 

2) DIY Reflow / Reflux

 

Whilst the YLOD has (according to Sony) no specific cause, it would appear that the majority of people report getting it due to an excess of heat, which in turn leads to some of the solder joints cracking and eventually breaking.

 

By heating these in a controlled manner, many owners have been able to soften the solder to the point where any breaks melt and rejoin.

Which is a good thing :)

 

Possibly the best, and most watched YouTube method for doing this is "ps3 ylod fix part1 gilksy" (and then on to the other parts obviously ;))

It can be found here -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U70SgRDVcBo

 

It should be noted that whilst you have the PS3 open, replacing the thermal paste is worthwhile doing :)

 

This obviously adds to the cost, but in the grand scheme of things is not at all expensive.

 

Different owners prefer different kinds of thermal paste, but "Silver Artic" seems to crop up a lot as the paste of choice :)

 

 

Points to note:

This fix usually lasts a lot longer than the hair dryer fix method - which is good.  Owners report weeks and months (or many months) of use.

However, it should not be looked at as a guaranteed permanent fix.  But then, the original Sony build wasn't permanent either, or your wouldn't be reading this! ;)

 

Importantly - you obviously have to open the PS3 to do this, and it involves poking around on the insides.  Doing it wrong could completely kill you PS3, even more than it is right now.

Also, your chances of going down the SOGA route after opening the PS3 up reduce to about zero :(

SO - if you're considering SOGA (see later), or are even a little bit worried about opening the PS3 up and killing it - do NOT try this method.

 

Also, if you are considering selling the PS3 afterwards, bear in mind that it won't have a warranty sticker, and therefore the buyer will know you have opened it - possibly reducing it's value.

 

 

Extra Importantly - by opening your PS3, you a VOIDING the warranty.

If your PS3 still has a warranty, this is therefore a HUGE step to take.

If your PS3 does not have a warranty, this is STILL a HUGE step.

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There is a third option - which MAY enable you to get your data back...

 

3) Third Party repairs.

Throughout the UK (and possibly other countries too), there are a number of companies which have sprung up to service the 'dead console' market.

 

Costs and services (and results) vary, but essentially they will all be doing either or both of the above solutions, or whatever in-house variation they have (may even go as far as replacing parts).

 

The difference between doing it DIY, and getting a company to do it are:

 

Cost.  Obviously you have to pay them ;)

Warranty.  Many companies provide a warranty for their work - if your PS3 goes pop within a set time, they may attempt to re-fix it.  Check before deciding which company to choose.

Time.  You may need to put your PS3 in the post, and they may have a backlog.

Experience. Possibly the most important - they have probably done many, many repairs - if you're reading this, you probably haven't done any... ;)

 

 

Other than that, all the other pros and cons of the above posts are still there :)

 

 

Final point - check and double check before selecting a company to entrust your PS3 to.

I've not come across any that guarantee to fix your PS3 and give it back.

If they can't fix it, they will either not charge (or reduce the charge), or supply you with a similar model that they have managed to get working.

This obviously won't give you your data back :(

 

But on the other hand - if a company couldn't fix it, could you have managed to do it DIY?

 

So, check, check and check again what you are paying for - and ask around in the forums if anyone else has used the company you are considering.

 

 

To emphasize again, as with the DIY fixes, third part companies will almost certainly be opening the console to fix it, which will VOID the warranty and remove the warranty sticker.

 

This has implications for trying to claim under SOGA (see later) or selling your console on at a later date (again, see later).

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The final option is something which Sony sometimes offer.

 

4) They MAY offer to repair your console.

 

In the same way as the third party companies do, but with all Sony's know how behind it :)

 

This typically costs about £130, and may take up to 3 weeks.

 

 

It is fairly rare of them to offer, but may be worth considering / asking them to do.

 

 

The downside is that it usually costs more than a 3rd party fix.

The upside is that you should retain / get a 3 month Sony warranty when you get your PS3 back.

 

It does still have a knock on for the SOGA route.

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Phew :)

 

Ok, if you've got this far, your hopefully now have a working PS3 again, and your data is available - hurrah! :D

 

Put it to one side (turned off ;)), and decide where to go from here :)

 

There are 3 basic options for dealing with you data.

 

1) copy stuff to USB individually.

The down side is that this takes ages, and is a faff.  It also won't work for copy-protected saves. :(

The up side is that you only need copy the bits you need, so the data should fit on a USB stick or two :)

 

2) do a system backup to external USB drive

The down side is that you need a (potentially big) external USB drive, as the system backup backs up everything - saves, demos, photos, music, the lot.  Probably best to spring clean the drive before doing this.

It also takes a while - so if you fixed with the hair dryer method, your PS3 MIGHT re-die mid backup... :(

Backups can take a dislike to copy protected saves - either failing during the backup process, or worse, during the restore.

Some stuff doesn't lie being restored to a different PS3 :(

In short - backup method is not really a good solution here :(

 

3) Data Transfer.

This is the daddy :D

With firmware 3.15, we got the option of 'data transfer'.

By connecting 2 PS3s together with an ethernet cable, you can transfer everything across :)

The downsides - you need 2 PS3s.... Which means buying a new one before you sell the old one...

The receiving PS3 is wiped before the transfer starts - so don't use a mate's :D

The sending PS3 (your zombie one :)) is wiped after transfer completes.

You need both PS3 to be able to display on a TV - so either faff with cables and switching, or 2 TVs (minor point really)

However, the data transfer can take a while - which may be a problem for PS3s fixed with a hair dryer

 

Most importantly though (from a data point of view) - ALL the data is transferred - accounts, saved games, even copy protected save games - everything.

(Couple of minor exceptions like singstar tracks that need to be re-downloaded).

But it is THE most complete method there is :)

 

 

 

NOTE:

Before doing anything at all with the data, sign in to PSN and sync your trophies.

This will ensure you don't lose any :)

 

NOTE 2:

After transferring all your data (and checking it worked), go back to your old PS3 and deactivate your account (XMB, account settings, deactivate).

Sony only allow you to have your ID on 5 consoles at any time.

 

So.

That's you options if you want to get your data back :)

 

 

Coffee break needed (for me :D) now, and then I'll do the options if you're not worried about the data :)

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Right then.

 

all the above was what to do in order to get your data back.

If actually you don't care, then you have more options...

 

1) Use the PS3 as a door stop.  Because that is about all it is good for at this stage :(

 

2) Sell it as broken.

This leads you into a world of "OMG I wish I'd thought about that!"

 

If you sell your PS3 without doing anything to it - there is nothing to prevent the new owner from fixing it (with one of the above methods) - and therefore having full access to your data and your account.

 

At very least, you should therefore (via a PC to the https://secure.eu.playstation.com/sign-in/?reason=noAuth&t=/psn/mypsn/trophies/ site) log in and change your PSN ID password.

 

Ideally, you would want to actually format the PS3 Hard Drive.

This can be done by either putting it into a USB / SATA caddy and connecting it to your PC (and formatting it) - cost about £20 if you shop around.

Or by simply putting your Hard Drive into a mate's PS3, which will instantly prompt for a format.

They will be able to put their own Hard Drive back in afterwards with no problems. (Or at least, they SHOULD get no problems...)

 

 

Other things to consider.

Most high street game shops will not buy broken PS3s - but it may be worth asking.

Selling a broken PS3 on ebay CAN be fraught with issues of scammers - buying yours, claiming they didn't realise it was broken, sending back an entirely different (and worse) one... :(

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3) sell it as broken / fixed.

Obviously you need to fix it in order to sell it as fixed ;)

 

And the same issues about removing your data apply :)

 

However.

Again, most shops will not accept a PS3 with a melted case - so if you used the hair dryer method... :(

Also, most shops will not accept a PS3 without a warranty sticker - so the DIY or 3rd party reflow / reflux method... :(

Selling on ebay - same issues of scammers potentially applies - be careful! :(

Obviously a repaired PS3 from Sony will have a warranty sticker (and a 3 month Sony warranty, but I'm not sure that this is transferable).

 

I'm not going to go into the moral issues of selling a PS3 which you know has a good chance of breaking again.

 

 

 

NOTE:

As with the above method, this does not give you the chance to deactivate your account on the PS3 - which means that you have 'lost' one of your 5 account activations... :(

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4) return it under warranty.

 

Obviously this only applies if you have a warranty ;)

 

In the UK, standard Sony warranty is 1 year.

 

For a good while, Sony offered an extended warranty scheme called 'Continuous Play' through a 3rd party insurance provider (GE).

This unfortunately got closed because people were signing up to it after their PS3 broke :(

Again, I'm not going to go into the debate of whether that was Sony's fault for leaving the loophole, or the owners fault who took advantage of it.

But basically, if you got on to it while it was still running, and are still paying - :)

If you didn't / aren't - :(

 

Many high street shops also offer extended warranty (at time of purchase).

 

Ultimately, if you have a warranty - use it :)

 

 

NOTE:

ANY attempts at DIY or 3rd party fix will (at the very least potentially) VOID the warranty.

Things like melted cases (hair dryer fix) or removed warranty sticker (reflow / reflux fix) will give the warranty provider a very good excuse to reject your claim.

 

 

NOTE 2:

If you return to Sony (or to Sony via Continuous Play), they can deactivate your account on it (freeing that 1 of 5 slot back up) - but will only do this if you ask, and sometime you have to push for it.

Sometimes they will even only do it when you reach your 5 activation limit :(

 

Worse though, is that Sony will ONLY do this for returns which they know about.

So a 3rd party warranty claim - you've basically lost that activation slot :(

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5) Sale of Goods Act....

 

This subject is worth a thread all in itself :D

 

In fact, there are already MANY good threads on the subject in this forum and else where.

My current favourite is http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-3-General-Discussion/If-your-PS3-has-died-read-th...

 

As an external link, this is also a very good source of info

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theoneshow/consumer/2009/07/03/sale_of_goods_act_letter_downl.html

 

What it basically boils down to (though I would still recommend reading up for yourself!) is:

 

Sale of Goods Act (SOGA) can only be applied in the UK.  Other countries have different laws and rules.

SOGA can only be used against the retailer where you bought the PS3.  If you bought it from an individual (say on ebay), SOGA does not apply.

 

SOGA is there to ensure that consumers are protected from buying goods with inherent faults.

 

Some owners have successfully managed to get a result by quoting SOGA at the retailer.

 

To date, it should be noted that (I) have never heard of a retailer who has actually paid out / recompensed under SOGA - directly...

All the results have been given under things like "goodwill gesture".

But that is still a result :)

 

 

You will probably need to push hard to get a result under SOGA - but some people do :)

 

You will need:

Your original receipt or other proof of purchase;

A copy of the SOGA to refer to (see the above link);

Probably need to put it in writing (again see the above link for example letters);

Possibly a note from a repairer stating the cause of the fault *

 

* NOTE: wait for the retailer to ask you for this, and make sure you have written confirmation from them saying that they (the retailer) have seen your PS3 with the warranty sticker intact.

The repairer will almost certainly need to open your PS3 up to do the report - removing the sticker in the process...  So don't do that until told to! :)  Plus, it will cost you money, and you don't want to spend it if you aren't asked for the report :)

 

At time of writing, some retailers are more likely to give "goodwill gestures" than others.

Game / Gamestation are typically good :)

Currys / Comet canvary store by store

Argos are generally ok when pushed, but some owners report otherwise

Amazon usually don't back down.

 

 

NOTE:

Again, ANY attempt at DIY or 3rd party repairs will seriously damage your chances at claiming under SOGA.

The retailer will take one look at a melted case or missing sticker, and show you the door (politely obviously ;))

 

 

NOTE 2:

IF you do get a result by pushing SOGA, the chances are that the retailer will take possession of your dead PS3.

Which obviously is why this 'solution' is under the "You don't want the data" bit.

However, you should note that this also means you will not be able to deactivate your account (again, as with the other solutions above)

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6) Send it back to Sony.

 

Sony will (assuming out of warranty) charge you circa £130 (at time of writing).

Within a day or two, a van will pull up outside your house, with a PS3 of the same model* as yours.

They will hand this over, and take yours away.

 

* NOTE:

This means that if your PS3 was a 60Gb version, Sony will replace it with a 60Gb one.

VERY occasionally, if pushed, Sony will allow you to elect for a different model - but this is very few and far between.

At one stage, Sony were replacing UK models with EU models.

Which didn't come to light until the BBC iPlayer icon appeared on UK models - but not EU ones...  Although that particular has been fixed now.

 

 

As mentioned briefly under the "claim on warranty" post above, Sony will (if pushed, and usually) deactivate your account on this dead PS3.

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I don't think I've missed anything out! :D

 

But if I have, please feel free to shout :)

 

 

 

PLEASE NOTE:

ALL of the above, whilst gathered from my time on this forum and elsewhere, is MY understanding of the situation.

 

Unfortunately, I can take no responsibility for the outcome should you decided to act on any of the information in this thread, and I strongly suggest that you do further investigation before embarking down any of the routes mentioned.

 

In particular you should note:

ANY attempt to DIY or 3rd party fix will VOID your warranty, and negatively impact your chance of a result under SOGA.  So think very carefully before doing that.

 

The hair dryer 'fix' is, at best, a temporary solution to allow you to eject a disc or copy some game saves to USB.  If you get more than a short life from your PS3, well, you're lucky :)

 

The DIY relow / reflux 'fix' is less temporary, but still temporary. Some owners get months of life, and some owners have done it multiple times.  However you should note the risks involved, and consider very carefully before trying to do it.  If you do do it, and it all goes horribly wrong, then you have only yourself to complain to...

 

 

 

 

 

All in all though, whichever route you go down, I wish you the very best of luck, and hope that this thread has at least outlined some (or hopefully all!) of your options :)

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Some random stuff that didn't fit in anywhere else ;)

 

There are a couple of other things you can do - they are just not very productive, except to vent your feelings :)

 

1) Create a thread in a random part of the forum entitled "&*^& U SONY!!!!!!!!!!!"

This will generally consist of a ranting owner who has had a YLOD and may have called Sony, only to be quoted a £130 repair bill.

It will often also include threats to leave Sony, never buy their products again, and replace their PS3 with an Xbox 360.

Normal replies will vary from "yep, me too", "I had a YLOD once", "I've never had a YLOD on my launch PS3", "You shouldn't have let if fill up with dust" to "******* off fanboi".

 

As such, I would recommend against going down that route :) ;)

But if you need to, please feel free to vent your anger - I'm just pointing out the response you will probably get :Thumbs:

 

 

2) When complaining / commenting about a YLOD, be it on the forum, or in a SOGA claim against a retailer, please do not quote the 'expected 10 year life span of the PS3'.

This will only elicit responses to the effect that Sony expect to support the PS3 platform for 10 years - it does not mean that Sony expect (or guarantee) that every individual PS3 will last for 10 years.

It means that they expect to make games or (more likely) release firmware updates and continue to repair broken PS3s for 10 years.

 

 

3) IF you go down the SOGA route, my personal suggestion would be to make the letter (if required) very generic.  "My PS3 has broken and I wish to make a claim" sort of thing.

Any attempt on your part to try and explain why it failed ("after the latest firmware update" or "whilst playing MW2" etc) will simply give the retailer the opportunity for wriggle room.

Leave the actual root cause to the official repairer (if you are even asked to provide one).

 

 

4) This thread has deliberately avoided the whole issue of how many PS3s suffer from YLOD.

There have been many discussions on this subject, my feelings are quite well known ;), and to get back into them on this thread would distract from the purpose of it :)

 

 

 

Finally (unless I can think of anything else! :D) - prevention is always better than cure.

 

If you're reading this thread purely out of interest, and haven't yet had a YLOD - first off, thank you very much for getting this far! :D

There is no official single reason for a PS3 to YLOD, and those which have, haven't necessarily been mistreated in any way at all :)

 

However, to minimise your chances, follow the basic rules:

Keep your PS3 cool.

Keep it in a well ventilated environment.

Keep it dust free.

Hoover it every now and then.

 

As I say, not every YLOD is caused by not doing the above, and a YLOD does not imply that the owner mistreated their PS3.

And doing all the above does not guarantee you will never get a YLOD - it will just help minimise the chances :)

 

 

Now I'm off for another coffee - thanks again for reading :Thumbs:

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Whilst no one has reported actually doing so, or success / failure of having tried, you may wish to consider claiming under your home contents insurance.

 

I have no experience of trying this.

I therefore have no idea if you would 

a) be even able to claim

b) be able to claim if you had done any of the fixes (ie melted case / no warranty sticker)

 

and therefore I don't know if this would fall into a "you want your data" or "you don't want the data" type solution.

 

There would (presumably) be an excess to pay, and it obviously may have implication for any no-claims bonus or following year's premiums.

 

But I thought I'd mention it for completeness (once I'd remembered it! :))

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I had the same problem with my PS3 and many more, if you go to PS3network.com you will be able to fix all the problems. I followed the easy-to-follow-videos and my console is running like new again. If you let Sony fix it they will charge you lots and you will lose the contents on your hard drive and to mention, they don't guarantee it will not happen again. PS3network.com will fix your problem and more guaranteed even if your like me and have no experiance fixing a PS3 before.

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An excellent thread! I can definitely appreciate the time you have put into this. Lets hope as many people as possible see this.

 

If only Sony were as helpful and as understanding as you. :xRolleyes:

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Are you a Mod? If not, they should fire all the technical Moderators for this forum and emply you, under salery, just for being the only person to offer any practical solutions to the YLOD problem.

 

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Thanks for this information, it is very good.At the time of when I got YOLD, there wasnt much info avaliable. Anyway firstly I thought I could get the game out by opening the console but I couldnt get it out. So I went for the hair dryer option so that I could get my game out and indeed it did melt the console casing.  Since then I have got a new PS3 silm. I was wondering that do you think Sony would replace the console if I payed them for the refurbished model?, Taking into account that the warrenty sticker has been removed and casing is melted. Any other options?

 

Many Thanks.

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snaffta wrote:

Are you a Mod? If not, they should fire all the technical Moderators for this forum and emply you, under salery, just for being the only person to offer any practical solutions to the YLOD problem.

 


 

Thank you! :)

 

No, I'm not a mod, but I like your suggestion! :D

 

 

 


DeepBrothers wrote:

Thanks for this information, it is very good.At the time of when I got YOLD, there wasnt much info avaliable. Anyway firstly I thought I could get the game out by opening the console but I couldnt get it out. So I went for the hair dryer option so that I could get my game out and indeed it did melt the console casing.  Since then I have got a new PS3 silm. I was wondering that do you think Sony would replace the console if I payed them for the refurbished model?, Taking into account that the warrenty sticker has been removed and casing is melted. Any other options?

 

Many Thanks.


 

 

You're very welcome :)

Sony don't seem to be overly picky about taking your money, even if it has been opened, as they replace any broken bits (inc the case) before sending it back out to someone else as a refurb :)

 

However, that will cost you about £130, and you then either sell it (maybe get £170 = £40 profit, minus costs), or keep it.

Sending it off to a third party fixer would cost less, but you wouldn't be able to sell it for as much either :(

Or just flog it as broken, bearing in mind the pitfalls of that method...

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* YLOD? * *PSN Connection Problems?* *Blu Ray Problems

And we weren't even testing for that.. :Thumbs:

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Hello there :)

 

I've read the whole thread (and what a bloody great one it is!) and I have decided what I'm going to do about my YLOD console... Which I was greeted with yesterday XD.

 

But first, I want to thanks you very much for helping me on this :) I would be LOST without it! XD

 

So, after reading your tips, I decided that I should open up the PS3, get the disc out (which was stuck in it), and then start saving up for a Slim :)

 

Since making that decision... I have got the disc out and also done the hair dryer fix so I can deactivate my account on the console and copy some saved data. I know I've voided my warranty, but that didn't bother me as my opinion is that it's much better value getting a  slim then getting it repaired (just my opinion :D).

 

I've also decided that I will keep the dead system for when I get the Slim and HOPE that it stays alive long enough to transfer the data from the 60gb HDD to the Slim HDD. I've also decided that I'm not going to even touch the dead console until I get the Slim.  Hopefully it works out XD

 

 

I just have a few questions:

How do I know that I have successfully deactivated my account on the dead console?

If I transfer the data via Ethernet from the 60gb HDD to the Slim HDD, could this cause any harm to the Slim HDD?

That is all XD

 

Once again, thank you VERY much for this thread! Otherwise, I would probably be yelling down the phone at SONY XD.

 

 

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60gb console YLOD- 20/3/10 :( Now a happy owner of a 250gb PS3 Slim :D



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