inFamous: General Discussion

[gdstudly]

Now I like the fact that there are two radically different endings to Infamous 2.  The thing is, where can they possibly go from here?

Here's a thought:  SPOILERS AHEAD

HERO ENDING

If you ended a Hero, and Cole is dead, you start off years later in a government facility where they are experimenting with the dead conduits to create a new weapon. You(OUR NEW HERO) are a test subject who is injected with a mixture of Cole's blood as well as other conduits. In your new birth, you are given the option of what powers you'd like to start with.  They begin to train you in the facility and see what you are capable of.  On the tv's you can see rioters going on in the city outside the facility.  A war is breaking out, but you are sheltered from the outside world.  There is a rebel group that breaks into the facility to rescue you which is led by Zeke. They help you break out. Next thing you discover is there is a new mysterious threat attacking the city. You try to stop it. As the game progresses you find out that it is Evil Cole from a parallel dimension. (this would be the Cole from the evil ending.   Yes I understand there are similarities to the original game, but this won't playout as a main mystery.  One of the conduits that Cole  rescued has the ability to open portals and entered this world to destroy it.) Cole is chasing after that interdimensional conduit who his hellbent on world domination. You have to either stop Cole and push all the conduits out of your dimension, or as the game continues join forces with him to battle the main baddie.. You gain powers by absorbing the conduits you defeat so you don't just have electrical powers.

EVIL ENDING

On the Evil end, you are one of Cole's freed conduits.  You select your powers from the start and they will evolve throughout the game.  You work side by side with Cole to rescue your fellow conduits in the city from the government. It plays out differently than the Good Side, but in the same city for the first half of the game until you awaken the one who can travel through dimensions. There is a fight and this evil conduit jumps through the portal where you go after him with Cole into the alternate reality. As the story continues you can either mold your "Evil Hero" into a good guy, or have him destroy this other city as well. In the end, if he is good, you and the good Hero will unite for the final battle.

Any of the endings lead the heroes to meet up with Cole(Cole will playout as your ally throughout the game, much like Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid 2) where he uses his electrical powers to create a vortex around the dead body of the dimensional conduit.  This creates a worm hole through time, which sends our Heroes into the past:  back to Empire City; back in time before the Radiation Blast;  back before all the events have ever taken taken place.

You see Kessler starting to form the First Sons, and you realize you must destroy him before the RFI is ever made in the first place. This way, (in this alternate timeline) the conduits are never given their powers and the story and the events of the first two games never take place. You see flashes of the future, of Cole and Trish getting married, Zeke their best man. They never experience the horrors of the plague nor the Beast.  The world never is ravaged, and the wars never erupt due to conduits.

What do you think?  (by the way, I typed this really fast so forgive me for any grammatical errors)

[Neon_tiger_7]

i like your idea and i can see SP coming up with a new character, especially after all the jiggling they did with cole before releasig inFamous 2 (it makes me think that maybe they weren't completely satisfied with cole as a character)

But on the other hand, the lightning at the end of the hero ending makes me wonder if they'll bring cole back for inFamous 3 (somehow) and they never really explain how the whole kessler thing will work in the long term, unless there's a whole bunch of parallel universes going on =O what i mean is, if cole doesn't go back as kessler, how can the events of infamous 1 occur?? Anyhooo that's all very confuzzling =)

But yh i think ur idea is really cool and i'd be u for playing a story like that =P

[DNAgent]

I wouldn't mind a sequel if they got rid of the mo-cap and brought back the old voice actor on top of changing Cole's appearance back to the one in Infamous 1. Then they could say the lightning fried off his lame tattoo's or w/e.

I think using mo-cap is what made the first VA for Cole leave and I would rather have no mo-cap to bring the old VA back. The running and other certain animations looks a lot more awkward than Infamous 1 anyways.

[LionPL]

SP seem to be the company which likes to include small (but important!) details to the game.

You know; stuff ending the game where you started it, making sure the sequel fits in the with first game (which IMO it does quite well), making sure you don't have to re-aquire the powers you already had, that kind of stuff...

Now; the flash of thunder is IMO a sign that we'll see more of Cole in the future. As for adverseries; whatever happened to Alden? After that encounter he fled; in a fall which no normal man could survive but he was a conduit. "Same rules don't apply".

Given the fact that he seems obsessed with metal and metal casings I wouldn't be surprised that it would also have allowed him to survive the RFI. At the first attempt he noticed something was going very very wrong for him so he shielded himself with metal. A Farraday cage if you will. There was plenty of time between the first and second attempt of using the RFI for that.

And here we have our beloved hero once again trying to clean up what he left behind...

IMO that kinda makes more sense. Esp. given that trying to create a whole new plot is always a danger that (many?) die-hard fans may not like the new plot. Esp. if its a bit far fetched.

[Battleman36]

here is one possible flaw to your story idea. It was never 100% verified that Kessler gained his powers from the ray sphere. and it was never 100% verified that The Beast came from the ray sphere's detonation. So, what if the blast wasnt what caused the beast to rise.

So

Therefore, going back in time to destroy the ray sphere may not change anything.

[ZackFair1219]

Kessler's powers were activated naturally. He learned how to control his powers at a slower rate than Cole because Cole had to continually stress his powers (FIghting bad guys, substations, etc) And because it is possible to get powers naturally, albeit the fact that Kessler had the invention of the Ray Sphere in his time, that doesn't mean that the Ray Sphere caused the Beast's creation, nor does it mean that John was the Beast. It was told in the second inFAMOUS that it is impossible to predict what someone's powers would be, so it is possible that there are other people with Electric powers, or the beast's powers, not saying that John wouldn't be the beast had he been given powers, because Kessler and Cole still had the same powers.

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[Neon_tiger_7]

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ZackFair1219 wrote:

Kessler's powers were activated naturally. He learned how to control his powers at a slower rate than Cole because Cole had to continually stress his powers (FIghting bad guys, substations, etc) And because it is possible to get powers naturally, albeit the fact that Kessler had the invention of the Ray Sphere in his time, that doesn't mean that the Ray Sphere caused the Beast's creation, nor does it mean that John was the Beast. It was told in the second inFAMOUS that it is impossible to predict what someone's powers would be, so it is possible that there are other people with Electric powers, or the beast's powers, not saying that John wouldn't be the beast had he been given powers, because Kessler and Cole still had the same powers.

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Haha no i see what ur saying =) so do u think that it's possible that they haven't prevented anything kinda in a teminator-judgement-day kinda way?

[RetroSteveUK]

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ZackFair1219 wrote:

....that went absolutely no where....

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No, it did go somewhere - it went further down the page!

Regarding sequels; you have to remember that the beauty of fiction is you can write in anything to develop a story.  All it needs is a plausible explanation. Eg ...

Generations after all the conduits have been destroyed, a new generation of humanity develops conduit capabilities.  One of them is a time shifter, and goes back to grab Cole's body.  Bringing him to the future, another conduit who can regenerate dead flesh revives Cole.  And now - we have The good old Cole MacGrath bustin' bad guys in a future city! Ta-daaa!!

[pilotguy121a]

Very interesting ideas! I actually have been thinking about this since i finished infamous 2 on the good side. Now, if we think about it, the game never really ended. Sure we can see the good and bad endings, but we are reset to the point just before we make the decision.

SO....If SP were to make an inFamous 3 sequel and have Cole be the main character, I believe we would be forced to play the good mission ending, or at least be shown something similar to it (much like the beginning of inFamous 2 where we took on the Beast) and of course the lightning bolt revives Cole and we go onto whatever city and whatever issue/threat pops up.

Just a thought and I really hope inFamous 3, should it be made, features Cole.